hei guys in one hour im going to a night club in the field i dont even wanna ask if my friends wanna come with me because i gave up to find a wingman from my friendzone so im going alone now i buyed 2 bottles of pesca friz its italian wine i think im going drink atleast one bottle before goin in the club so i am not to much shy do u guys do the same?

I am going out tomorrow night. For the first time in years picking up a girl is on my mind. It should not be, but it is. And I am not sure what I am going to do yet. (See other threads if your at all interested...)

If I do go for a pick up (which will not be for full closure, or even close) I will curb my drinking radically. No question.

You don't gain confidence with drink - you lose inhibition and there is a BIG difference. If you think you need a drink for confidence, you don't - you need practice. I may not be a PUA but I now a lot about confidence - it comes with the territory of my job.

Think about it. You stagger over (maybe you don't think you are, but you are), you are slurring your words, your responses are slow and you stink, reek of booze. It is not a good look.

If I am just out with mates - I usually get hammered!

hei thank you for you answer ye in on one side ur right my approach axiety is still here even i am drunk or not but when im drunk i can atleast go to a girl and say hello while shes walking this sounds really pussy like but im allrighty happy i f there some sort of ton that comes out of from my mounth xd i really paralized pretty fast i when i see a hot girl i start thinking in my head " wow shes so hot ohhh damn what should i say i want to approach her but if her boyfriend is here and he see me approach her im fucked : D"

so I start to oberseve her and check if there is any male with her but the the time passes and passes and passes i do nothing :/


i think my approach axiety comes from my my ancestors in my father is arabic and there they are really hard if u approach a woman with a headscarf they kill you i dont think anything has changed there even 2000 years later so i think this is in my dna

Aproaching anxiety will never go away, you must realize that is there and go face her. And i don't drink when i am out, because of that, you learn a lot when you are not drunk, and you push yourself even further. I know somesituations when i was drunk and go for girls i seem to be in some situation really like a jerk...

Here is how you should do it.

-If you want to game sober, go day game.
-If you want to drink and game, go night game.

But, you can't get drunk, is gonna screw up all your set. You have to still look sober so know your limit. Is night clubs, everyone else, including girls are drinking. Is perfectly acceptable to drink. Also, this scene is made towards people hooking up, that is why alcohol is so popular. It keeps them in business. If the crowd came to out just to drink, they could stay home and drink saving them bunch of money.

Also, don't observe girls to see if there with guys. See them and open them. If a guy comes along, he is the boyfriend, he will not care if you respect that and back off. If he is just a friend, he will not care also. If the guy is just a friend, this will work towards your advantage, that is if you can befriend the guys. Girls love that shit.

thank you for your answeres guys i love this community you guys are helping me alot greeting : )

im going now bye guys wish em luck and have a nice night

Yes, always. Not because I am shy, but because party is party, I do not imagine good party cbeing completely sober.
And I do not know anybody who goes to nighclub sober, its just strange.

Oh, good grief no! Don't go to a club sober! Just don't get drunk!

Nope. Drinking just numbs your wits.

Seriously doubt that. For example 2 beers just advances my wit and I am still 100% sharp

Alcohol is a depressant, and a stimulant in only small dosages. If anything it's just helping you to relax and in a relaxed state you're able to think more lucidly, however after a certain point (well before intoxication) your brain will begin to function in slow motion.

Also, what you may perceive as being more witty may be perceived by others as simply more annoying.

You don't have to drink during night game, but if it helps do it. It's night game! Perfect excuse to drink and it on girls.


If your not gonna drink and game sober, day game is the way to go. Is way easier then night game.

Depends on where you're at in terms of progressions.

Some people really require some external 'lubricant' to go out and hit those sets, plow through that anxiety and push some new ground outside of their comfort zone- in this case the practical in-the-moment options are either use that lubricant (Alcohol) and progress at a handicapped pace, or don't progress at all- in which case I'd say bottoms up.

That said, alcohol does create a considerable handicap (whose severity depends on the amount consumed) because you lose a lot of your focus, giving you less accurate memories, less accurate readings of the situation and generally weaken the power of your skillset. (though again, when that skillset is still in it's infant-form, there's not much to weaken and no harm done)

I'd say- if you're new drink, however after progressing to a stage where your competence reaches a respectable height, lay off it and go sober. (might create some temporary friction, but is worth it.)


PS. You can always try the extensive inner-to-outer development, where you start with strongly developing your 'inner game', but I've found that this does lead to procrastination of actual in-field time which is the single most important part of learning.


My 2 cents,
-Vice