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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 5:51 pm 
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I read something similar to this on so suave where the objective was 50 Hi's in 1 week.

Pretty darn easy thought I.

Out I go to complete this simple task.

I'd never noticed how hard it is to get people to make eye contact with you. I could not get 1 single person to make eye contact with me - not 1. Saying Hi to a stranger who won't even look at you proved a tad too daunting.

I went into a few attractive women with "give me directions to" and "what time is it" lines and got good replies though. But when I say a few I literally mean 4.

Although from such a unimaginitive opener as asking for directions to the Ibis hotel I got some pretty good IOI's from this woman who looked around 30 (I'm 21). Full on "do me" eye contact and smiling, standing closer when giving directions etc.



Although the so suave version had me go to a park rather than a mall, so I'll try a mall next.


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I'd never noticed how hard it is to get people to make eye contact with you. I could not get 1 single person to make eye contact with me - not 1. Saying Hi to a stranger who won't even look at you proved a tad too daunting.
I guess we're going to have to for the peacock-atribute...
Atleast they will notice us:P

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i was anxious about trying this but thought as my AA is so crippling i'd give it a whirl.
it was a real struggle. most of the women i walked pass either most of the time looking down/away from my direction or they glanced at me for only a split second before turning their gaze away. i did utter "hi" a few times although i might as well have been talking to a wall. perhaps they didn't hear or just ignored me and continued on their way.

the following thoughts would play out over and over in my head:
  • this is a creepy/weird thing to be doing
    i feel like a chump (well i am) walking round doing this
    they are going to wonder why i'm randomly saying "hi" (and only "hi") to them and think i'm weird
    i am weird
    i look odd walking around a shopping centre alone
    anyone who notices me doing this is probably going to think i'm strange too
    i'm afraid/anxious about other people around seeing me do this
i walked around from shop to shop, saw plenty of girls, said "hi" to a handful with no responses and bailed out on the majority asking myself "what's there to be scared of really? what does it matter if they look at me funny?"

i avoided all girls who were with their partners/friends/family members.

grrr....going to try again soon. tips anyone?


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Ok so I went and did the mission today. . . It was actually a lot harder than I thought it would be, but at the same time it was like jumping out of a plane! I honestly can't wait to try and do even better! So the vast majority of women either didnt acknowledge me/ looked down / Or just gave me a faint smile back. There were a lot who I intended to approach but they were deep in conversation, or simply didnt make eye contact even when I was looking straight at them. I DID however with a bit of sweating and psyching myself up for it ask one girl out. She was working in Gamestop and We'd had a little back and forth talk. I walked out and then after yelling at myself for being a chicken shit I went back in and asked if she liked coffee. "yes" she says. . . At this point I had intended on doing the three yes trick but I seemed to have forgotten my second question and went straight for the "When you get off want to grab a cup" (she was an 8) I got the "Im taken" line from her. Which she probably was but thats not the point. I didnt care that she shot me down that much. SO as I dont think I said Hi to nearly enough women (maybe 10) Im gonna go back out tonight and try to do 10 more. This time it will be night game (I think women are less appreciative of being hit on during the day it seems) and Im gonna try and say it louder and not a mumbled "hi". Wish me luck! Never gonna make it as a PUA unless I conquer my fear!


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haha!
really an interesting and great post and a great guy! I just remember that when we are at middle school age and some of our classmates had do this but not to such a degree.
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*Update* Went downtown and not only got the courage to say hi to a few women I noticed that peacocking really does work. Some thing as simple as my new fedora was enough to get several girls just to say "i like your hat". Now to start studying (starting on reading "The Game")


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erm forgive my ignorance, what is peacocking?


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erm forgive my ignorance, what is peacocking?
Peacocking is essentially wearing something interesting. It can be as simple as a Fedora, or as big as a fuzzy purple vest. It may LOOK stupid sometimes and you think "Oh no woman is gonna want to talk to me while im wearing that" but the truth is it stands out and thats the point. People look at you. Also it shows confidence! Wearing something because you want to and not giving a damn what other people think shows you as an Alpha male. Women will actually open you just to say "Hey I really like your hat" or whatever your wearing. Mystery does this a lot with things like his big top hat that looks like something the mad hatter would wear.


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Just came here an hour or two ago, feels like a whole new world :)

I'm going on a marathon tomorrow ( its a "walking" marathon ) so there'll be lots of girls.

Here's some facts.

My friend wants to be with a girl from school, but he never really approaches her, you can tell he has an AA. So I figured, this could help him overcome his fears. As for me, I figured I'll try it also, maybe even take it up a notch with some pickup lines I've just read about too just to boost my self-esteem and help the friend :)

Quick off-topic question

I'm having some problems with my GF, and 20 posts are needed in order to write in the appropriate section. If an admin could PM me, that would be great :) Other suggestions appreciated.

Posting the results of the mission tomorrow :)


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2nd attempt at this mission. Success!

My friend and I went to Yorkdale Mall in Toronto. I said 'hi' to about 10 girls. Most of them, however, just gave me a quick look and looked away. It seems like they felt really awkward that a stranger was saying 'hi' to them.

Some didn't even acknowledge my greeting. That was getting on my nerves, so a few times I clapped right in their face to get their attention LOL. Then she would look, and I would smile and say 'hi'.

My approach anxiety has been significantly reduced. Thanks Chief!


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 1:35 am 
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I smiled, and only smiled at them. A few tried to start conversation, but I showed that I was in a hurry and didn't end up talking to any. I noticed a few things though. . . Some girls are very shy and look away right at the moment of eye contact and don't get to see you smile, I reacted thinking, "Oh what's wrong with me?" Girls will think this also if a PUA beginner does this, the girl will think the exact same way. Some girls smiled back, others looked away after I smiled. It seems like if I wanted I could have easily used an opener like, "Hi, I'm doing this mission today in which I smile at all the people I get eye-to-eye contact with, but you seemed friendly so I wanted to talk to you just for a little while." This works as she realizes you have something to do today, you have a time constraint, she acknowledges the fact she's just another one of the many girls you are seeing today, and you just do some DHV's and a few negs and you're in.


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@good D. I think that was the name. This is my technique, I use it daily. (saying hi) The way I see it.. people may very well look away after you say "hi" keep in mind there are almost ALWAYS other people that see your charisma.. Look around for those other people. Then you have an instant situational opener of "I just got shunned" or "rejected" talk with the person you just opened.. then in a negging manner later.. say to the first girl (if she is still around) "having a bad day? That happened to me once.. I lived." Showing you have confidence even when the first girl didn't say anything. Girls love persistence as long as it's not needy. Could be their shit testing you to see how easily you give up. When I see an HB by herself I totally make sure she's in the frame by saying "HI" to another group close to her. (I think frame means within ear shot) Then they see your charismatic ways and its just like your talking to her friends. Then you manipulate the conversation to including her. One more thing to add. I've sarged by myself.. it makes a huge difference when there is even just one person with you. They don't even need to do anything. My sister was with me yesterday, and all she did was stand there watching me do my thing. She didn't join in on any conversations unless I directly asked her questions or "lobbed" the ball for my pitch. But social proofing adds so much to the way your seen in their mind's eye. Best of luck!


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I went to the mall last week to do this challenge. At first when I was still reading this, I thought it will be a piece of cake. When I was at the mall to do the challenge, I realized that its not that easy. First, I had difficulties in making them look at me. I dont want to say hi without them looking at me first. Sometimes, when a girl looks at me while we are crossing each other, the word "hi" just can get out of my tounge. I cant even smile at them. This Sunday evening, I went to a club with my buddy to try to open. I find it easier to open in bars than in malls or parks. I even find it easier to open with a male on the group using the 2girls fight opener then talk to the target and ignore the AFC's then on. The next morning, just after getting enough rest from clubbing, I went again to the same mall and tried to do the challenge again. I just dont know why but I think opening is easier than saying hi. There are times that I say hi to someone I walk by but most of the time I dont get a response from them.

That's my report for the challenge. hoping to hear response from masters to improve my game :)

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 Post subject: hey its me again
PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2012 3:49 pm 
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well well well how ya'll been...listen i'm gonna give y'all the best piece of advice anyone can give you....READ MY EARLIER POST'S IN THIS THREAD IF YOU DON'T THINK I'M REAL....GO READ "MODE ONE" BY ALAN ROGER CURRIE
GO READ "MODE ONE" BY ALAN ROGER CURRIE
If you are ready to change your life for the better FOREVER'
GO READ "MODE ONE" BY ALAN ROGER CURRIE
go get it, NOW


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well well well how ya'll been...listen i'm gonna give y'all the best piece of advice anyone can give you....READ MY EARLIER POST'S IN THIS THREAD IF YOU DON'T THINK I'M REAL....GO READ "MODE ONE" BY ALAN ROGER CURRIE
GO READ "MODE ONE" BY ALAN ROGER CURRIE
If you are ready to change your life for the better FOREVER'
GO READ "MODE ONE" BY ALAN ROGER CURRIE
go get it, NOW

TRUST ME GUYS....your looking at things alllll wrong!
Go read "MODE ONE" by Alan Roger Currie its like 150 fucking pages ...
What info these PUA people fail to volunteer to give to you is that their inner game is solid as fuck and most good PUA's recognize how replaceable women are and these guys for the most part are DGAF as hell (Don't give a fuck) That means when they are completely UNFAZED by rejection. THAT MEANS THEY ARE COMPLETELY UNFAZED BY REJECTION. I dare an Admin to disagree with me but it won't matter b/c I rarely have time to look at threads like this anymore.
I am still an AFC.
Yep
However i'm learning that you either GET IT, or YOU DONT GET IT....
I still don't get it
I'll admit that
But look fellow AFC's I now have the ability to spot whether a guy GETS IT, or DOESN'T GET IT.....
Again I dare an Admin or someone with high rep to disagree with this, YOU CANT JUST READ SOME PUA SHIT OR EVEN "MODE ONE" BY ALAN ROGER CURRIE AND JUST BE FUCKING NEIL STRAUSS OVER NIGHT.
I'm like 2 months into this PUA stuff
Actually what springboarded me back into pickup is this failure i had with a female and i was all like WTF im tired of shit like this happening...
Back to topic, this shit really does take blood, sweat, and tears...
Pickup is all about confidence not some lines or patterns or routines....
You can't just be good at pickup overnight, over a month, however there will be a point in time where you start to get kinda good at it....
I'm still not there yet, until then cheers....oh there was a book i was gonna suggest but i can't remember what it is


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