Hi, there´s a girl i like a lot and sometimes a talk to her, and I would like to made her agree to having sex knowing that my GF should not? I mean, how do I break it down or suggest it without danger of making that girl feel awkward and telling her friends or something? What do you recommend?

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Wazzap

Break up with you're girlfriend. If you want to cheat on her without her finding out, you probably don't love her and not in an healthy relationship.

Nuff said.

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Dear Optimist, Pessimist & Realist,

Just to let you know that while you guys were arguing about the glass of water...... I drank it!

Sincerely, the Opportunist

This is something you should have went over early in your decision making process. Now you must choose whether you want to live this lifestyle(not healthy in my opinion) or break up with your girlfriend.

yeah.. IMO PUA does not include cheating. Sounds AFC to me.

Yeah break up with her you loser... PUA doesnt include cheating..... control youre own life

"The only time you lie is when she asks your true score."

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Women are like ceramic tile.... if you do the prep work, and lay them properly the first time...you can walk all over them for years to come.

Arent you getting enough from your GF? Would it be worth it if she finds out? If not, dont do it.

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I'm not trying to be a dick Ezo, but you're being a Pick Up Snob in my opinion.

bbardot: you just reminded me about porn

Well... you may be right, have any of you broke with a GF to become a PUA?

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Wazzap

How important is it for you to become a PUA? And how important is it to keep your GF?

If you are gonna try your wings, either dont go for the fullcloses or make sure it isnt with anyone your GF may ever meet.

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I'm not trying to be a dick Ezo, but you're being a Pick Up Snob in my opinion.

bbardot: you just reminded me about porn

there's no point in 'becoming a pua' if you already have a girlfriend. the reasons you'd want to learn up on this is

a) if you want to make your girlfriend more attracted to you
b) if you're not happy with your relationship and want to go out in the single world

I didn't make a decision to 'become' a PUA - it happened over years. When the PUA community came aboveground, it put definitions and terms and titles to everything...

I don't give a shit about the title, I use it as a tool when I fuck women my age now. I TELL them I 'used to be a pick-up artist'... when they ask WHY, I tell them "I'm into you, and if this continues - I want you to know this side of me early on, that way you never doubt what I say to you. It's part of my past, you deserve to make your own judgement.". I also tell them I'm commitment-phobic.

They pounce on that shit. They think they can change me... I'm the challenge...and I'm the nice guy with a bad-boy past (deadly combination I find).


You've already made your decision clear to me - you need to dump the bitch. You obviously don't lvoe her enough to see ONLY her, so fuck it - get your freedom and slay pussy all you like.

Unless the danger-pussy is your high.... then, do what you want, that's not my style - but it's not really fair to her...

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Women are like ceramic tile.... if you do the prep work, and lay them properly the first time...you can walk all over them for years to come.

el_santo,

Do what you want, If you wanna play the field whilst in a relationship then test it out. If you throw away a healthy relationship or even regular sex for that matter to become a fully fledged PUA then stop those stupid thoughts, you are being a fucking idiot. I chased that dream for a while (wanting to fully pursue a PUA lifestyle) and it sucks, you become weird.

Concentrate on income, hobbies, passions, friends gatherings... things that make you happy.

Cheat if need be, but dont let all your morals and shit mess up your head.

Sometimes the grass isnt always greener on the other side, sometimes it is.

There is every reason for everybody to become a PUA. Not necessarily with the goal to pick up girls but for self improvement. And also I believe that a relationship works best if the playingfield is levelled. If both are more or less equally attractive, nobody gets the upper hand and nobody has to feel inferior.

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I'm not trying to be a dick Ezo, but you're being a Pick Up Snob in my opinion.

bbardot: you just reminded me about porn

right. that's kind of what i was trying to say.. to get your girlfriend more attracted to you (improving your self). but he was indicating that to become a pua you need to go hit the field. which isn't true.. like you said its about self improvement foremost and what you do with your skills is up to you.

Grow some balls and tell your girlfriend that you want another relationship with another girl, if she agrees great and if she doesn't then break up and go for that girl. PUA is not help you cheat.