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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 7:53 pm 
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I would like to hijack this thread a bit to help yansaccnt in his quest for becoming a genuine alpha male. J stugots here is a prime example of the genuine alpha male. Sure, he feels down for the moment due to his recent divorce but he has been managing this down cycle in his life through alpha male techniques.

First, stugots know how to leverage the knowledge, expertise and experience of other guys to come up with the best decision. Unlike alpha male gorillas, human alpha males are extremely social creatures. The anti-social alpha male human is a fake one for the simple reason that he doesn't stand a chance when the genuine alpha male leverages his social power.

Second, stugots has skills that place him at the top of the food chain and is still open minded in learning new skills and polishing them. The beta male does not want to learn new skills and has fewer skills than the alpha male. Hence, in a very competitive environment, the beta male always loses while the alpha male wins due to the skills that he has learned and polished with great effort, time and lots of smarts.

These are lessons in life that you can see from a genuine alpha male like stugots. Discern well. :twisted:
Thanks Hellhound, yeah, Ive been around the block, but let me tell you, coming into the game, hard, I'll admit, I'm learning a lot from guys a lot younger than me, and guys a lot older. Insecurity is a common thing everyone feels at some point; anyone who says he hasn't is lying, and probably real insecure.

How many times have we've seen total tool bags out, say there guys in good shape, but are totally cheesy acting all "macho" and what they think is alpha and strike out, or, they're hooking up with someone like a "Snookie."

One things I can tell you all from personal experience, if you don't at some point be open and share your feelings, if you're in a serious relationship, you can destroy it; I'm living proof and there are so many guys like me....stable successful, but believe a man should be a man and feelings are more women nonsense...trust me lack of communication and emotional neglect is the biggest cause for divorce and it's the woman, while devastated that leaves....it beats out infidelity and even physical abuse as crazy as that sounds.

So, update, I took some of the advice and not some of it. First, I just acted normal. Second, I did contact her because I really did feel like our "spontaneous" drink routine...I said,"I got a squash game in a n hour and then would be up for a lite bite or a drink if you're free." she got back to me later, with sounds fun, but she unfortunately had a work thing. I responded, "it was, I destroyed my competition and not I'm in the tap room having a bite with X.". X was clearly a women's name. I think we chatted a few days later, she goes out east every weekend, we chatted about the beach and then I mentioned how my buddy has a place out there and is always asking me to go out there to visit his wife and kid, which is true. She encouraged me to come out, I said only if she gives me the local tour, it's been awhile since I've been out to east Hampton-I never saw the point going out there once I got married (I didn't tell her that of course). She said absolutely...so I think I'm still ok with this one. I had to start and stop this post a few times at work, and typing on my iPad...so if there are any typos, weird phrases, I do apologize, but duty calls.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 10:09 pm 
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I think I kind of know what to do here, but I will admit, I'm a little frustrated and would like to get some feedback. First, a little background.

I'm 37, she's 38. We are both very busy, white collar professionals (actually, I hate to admit it, she seems to be busier than I am lately).

Anyway, first date, hit it off great F closed. We go out again for my birthday, she's really into it, then another time, etc. Then radio silence. I stay in contact with her, mostly one-sided, then out of the blue she asks if I can meet her for an impromptu drink. I'd like to say a month has gone by since we've been out last. I decline, because, quite frankly, I had a date that night. The next day, I ask her the same, "meet for spontaneous drink" she tells me where she is, she just got out of work, didn't order yet, I meet her.

We meet, things are going great, and then it does come up, in a normal way, why the radio silence for a while? She told me that she got very embarassed because I f closed the first date. She claims she doesn't do that, but that it was actually, in a way, a compliment to me, because she felt very comfortable with me, obviously, but still couldn't believe she slept with me so quickly, and that anything for the future would be doomed because of it, most likely (woman logic, I know).

I told her ridiculous that was, and why she just didn't call me or tell me this sooner, we obviously hit it off? Again, she said or claimed she was really embarassed..she even said something to the effect of, "We're not like 25, we shouldn't be moving so fast." She went on further to say she's used to being courted more, etc. I said, "fine, I understand, we can take a step back if you want. I obviously like you, we obviously like hanging out with each other, we'll just take a step back." She liked that idea. I paid for dinner (which means it was a date) and she wanted to get another glass of wine somewhere else, so we did. I told her, no matter how much she'd beg, I wouldn't go home with her (goofing around of course).

So this week, are usually flirty banter, I even decided to send her flowers this week. So, we're chatting yesterday (email, its always email), she's going away, we both had a rough weeks, etc. There was definitley some flirty stuff going on, then I say, "so will you miss me? ;-)" She writes back, "You'e sooooo nice, but I don't think I'm built for relationships :-) "

I write back, "Who said anything about relationship? I just want to be in your life and take it from there." No response, which I'm not reading into too much. She goes away to vacation house every weekend and I leave her alone, there's no need for us to talk over the weekend.

I mean this woman is all over the place. She lets me closed the deal the first night, is all over to me to hang out more and more, then silence. I should add I was on vacation and she had a business conference soon after we first met. Oh, when I asked her why she wanted to meet for a drink. She said she really liked my follow ups and pictures I sent, and could tell that I was a genuine good guy and not some Manhattan player looking for one nighters (don't know how accurate that is :twisted: )

She liked the idea of taking a step back, she obviously likes me, and then the whole "I'm not relationship built" line. ?? I have a feeling I may have fallen for a shit test, and might have failed. I just find it odd for a woman my age to be pulling crap like this...or maybe she's just confused and busy.

Anyway, my course of action I was thinking, was to just forget about it, and next week, go by as if nothing happend and our normal interactions.

I'm looking for other thoughts/insights. I expect this crap from a 25 yo, but an attractive, intelligent, ambitious entrenpeneur??

Anyway...

J.
I think you screwed up when you let her phase shift on your ass from her chasing you (her trying to tie you down) to you chasing her(you allowing yourself to be tied down in order to get more trim). she was bullshitting at the end there when she said "i think i want a relationship, not some manhattan player", im pretty sure what she meant was the exact opposite. i say just fuck it, pay her no attention for a week or so, fuck some other broads and if/when she emails you just try to get her to fuck again.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 10:19 pm 
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I'm seeing her later tonight...


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:40 pm 
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I'm seeing her later tonight...
It sounds to me like you're seriously building something real here (and I'm a commitment-phobe; I don't want it for me... but I see it here.).

Your story is real brother. I'm 45, jaded and cynical as fuck. You seem to have a good woman here.

Hope tonight goes well!

Let us know!

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