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Introduction

The following is a brief outline of how I meet women during the day. Its my personal opinion that most guys go about day time seduction all wrong. They walk up, open (doesn't matter how) and then one of two things start to happen: they either get way overly "gamy" or they start building rapport. After one of those things are accomplished the player gets (or attempts) to get a number. A few days later they came back here and ask why all their numbers are flaking.

In my experience there are three things that need to develop in order for you to have a solid interaction with a woman during the day.

1) Emotional Connection
2) Romantic Connection
3) Sexual Connection

If you are able to walk up to a beautiful woman and make all three types of connection with her your success rate will skyrocket.

Before you can talk to women and start making these connections you need to first make sure that your someone she wants to make a connection with.

Picture a street bum. Now picture him walking up to a woman. He is dressed in his rags, is dirty, and just all around looks nasty. The bum could have the most awesome personality in the world but no woman is going to give him a chance to display it. The second that bum approaches any woman of quality she will quickly shut him down and walk away.

While I doubt that anyone reading this post is a street bum I don't doubt, however, that you could improve your appearance. I'm sure you could afford to loose some weight or pack on some muscle. While I encourage everyone to either loose weight or bulk up with some muscle these are more long term goals and we certainly don't want to wait around to start seducing women. Whats the solution?

Dress better. This single thing can vastly improve your appearance! By dressing better you can take yourself from ugly to average (sometimes even better than that) and from average to sexy. Teaching you to dress well is beyond the scope of this post. I recommend the book "Style Guide for the Modern Man." Google it.

Now that your all dressed up and looking sexy its time to begin.[/i]

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Opening

Some people preach that you should always approach indirectly and hide your interest. Others say to be a man and to always let her know your feelings by going direct. While I certenly don't think you should ever go indirect, I don't think you should always go direct either.

I'm a big fan of going direct and being a man about your desires and most of the time thats what I do. However, approaching that way isn't always the best way. When I approach a woman I will usually thow out a Tester Statement such as "excuse me." Once I throw that out I see how she reacts to me. It only takes a split second to size her up. Did she respond (both verbally and non verbally) warmly to me, cold, standoffish, confused, scared, ect...

If she responds warmly I will go direct but I don't go over the top with silly things such as "Your hot lets fuck." My direct openers are more low key such as "Excuse me, I seen you from over there and I just had to come meet you." Another example is, "Excuse me, your completely adorable/cute and I had to come say hi."

If she doesn't respond so warmly I will usually open with a suitational opener. For example, if shes reading a book I'll make a comment on the book shes reading. Situational openers are easy to come up with on the fly. Simply open your eyes and observe something and then make a comment about it to her. Openers really arn't a big deal and only serve to start a converstaion so don't put a lot of effort or focus into them.

A little tip to get more solid interactions and avoid women who arn't interested is to focus your time on "warm approaches." A warm approach is an approach to a woman who shows somee sort of interest in you. The interest could be as simple as locking eyes with you from accross the room and her holding it just a split second longer than normal. It can be hard to catch at first but eventually you will get good at noticing when women have an interest in you.

What I like to do is force warm approaches. As I'm walking down the street I will lock eyes with every cute woman I meet. As I lock eyes I fully communicate "I want to fuck you." I"m not saying this verbally by rather non verbally. If you look into her eyes and think about fucking her, your eye contact, body language, and vibe will all communicate that to her.

Just keep eye contact with her and again, if she holds it longer than she normally would shes probably interested in you. As she gets closer to you stop her and open direct.

If she doesn't seem likes shes interested you can just let her walk on by or you can stop her and open anyways.

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Emotional Connection

Once you stop and open a woman its time to start developing an emotional connection with her. The quickest and best way to share a deep emotional connection with a woman is to open yourself up and really share yourself and who you are. She will follow your lead.

What does opening yourself up actually look like? When most guys approach a woman and start conversing they only talk about surface level, mundane things. Instead of talking about where you live and what you do for a living its better to talk about your passions, dreams, and other things that involve emotions and feelings. Once you do this you can encourage her to open herself up and share an emotional connection with you.

Once she opens up you can encourage her to then dig even deeper and share even more emotions with you. For example: you ask her about her biggest passion and she explains that she does ballet. Instead of leaving it there you should probe a bit further and find out what inspired her to be a ballet dancer. She might then tell you that she once went to the movies with her mother when she was a child and once of the characters was a ballet dancer. This then openes the door for you both to talk about your childhood. It can keep going deeper and deeper. I promise you that when you get good at this you will be the only one who has ever randomly stopped her and made such an emotional impact.

Its important to note that you should stay away from negative emotions. If a topic you got on seems to have some sort of negative emotions involved with her then change the subject.

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Romantic Connection

The next type of connection you want to make is a Romantic Connection. Making this connection will make her feel even more emotionally attached to you and will make her excited to see you again.

A Romantic Connection isn't buying her flowers or any of the other Hollywood crap we see all the time. The way I create a Romantic Connection is to take a hold of her hands after I have connected emotionally with her a bit. Simply tell her that you are a romantic person if she ask (Credit: Justin Wayne) and then keep holding her hands and go back to talking to her. Keep holding them until she pulls them away.

All you have to do now is act like a cutsy couple. We have all seen them before... they just seem so cutsy and in love. For example, I'll give her eskimo kisses, do romantic role plays about us taking vacations together to far away romantic places, and then I'll go for an insta-date.

Sometimes she will really like you but doesn't have the time to go on a insta date with you. Its no big dea. However, if she does go just reassure it her wont be long and then take her on a walk, go get a coffee, whatever. Its not really important where as go its just important that you do go.

The last part of making a Romanic Connection is to qualify her. Tell her something non physical about her that you like and admire and then tell her why you like it.

Then you get the number, Don't leave right after you get the number. Its best to wait around for a few minutes and then leave.

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Sexual Connection

While my night game is heavily focused on building a sexual connection its not as important during the day. For the day its way more important to build an Emotional and Romantic connection. However, a sexual connection will add a certian "spark" to the interaction which never hurts.

As I mentioned before I like to bascailly "eye fuck" women before I open them. This creates a small sexual connection and following up with a direct opener furthers that sexual connection.

If you open direct then place your focus on flirting with her for a short while (no more than a few minutes) before you start building an emotional connection.

If you opened suitationally then you can transition straight into building an emotional connection first. Then after a few minutes of that get a bit flirty then go back to making an emotional connection.

The way I like to flirt is to use mild "Shock and Awe." Google "PUA Shock and awe" if you don't know what it is. Basically shock and awe looks like this: While shes saying something I'll start eye fucking her for a few seconds and then interrupt her by saying something along the lines of, "I keep trying to pay attention to what your saying but your distracting me with that sexy look of yours."

Then go back to building an emotional connection. I'll often misinterpret what she says at times and turn it sexual.

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Conclusion

Its important to note that creating any type of connection will strengthen all the other types of connection. For example: When you develop a solid emotional connection your romantic and sexual connection will be more powerful. All the connections play off of each other.

Don't waste time on uninterested woman. If after a few minutes she is still cold and not contributing much, walk away. There are a ton of beautiful women in this world and only a limited amount of time to meet them. Don't waste time on women who don't like you and wont open up to you.

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I read your guides...and I liked the ESP one (what I call the: BE A MAN guide). This seemed so Justin Wayne the moment I read it but man...it's golden.

This is so true.

I do want to clarify: sexual tension is good and really makes sure you don't just attract and stick in the comfort phases (friend zone). Make sure you constantly kino while having a sexual frame of mind (look into her eyes and be a man about your sexuality).

I truly believe kino escalation between direct and indirect is the same, except in direct its a bit more fast paced kino and more intimate too soon. In Mystery or Indirect, it's very bit by bit, and uses a lot of IOD's and IOI as small rewards. Mystery method is mostly play hard to get/Indirect.

Mystery Method details Kino Escalation as Gambler does - micro-escalations throughout the interaction.


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Thanks for reading man. Glad you got something out of it!

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Speaking of which Warped...I notice Day Direct Game ...sucks so much for me at the moment. I don't know some days, you feel like it just clicks others it doesn't. Today I opened 6 girls...and only got 2 numbers. One girl was so comfortable with me and laughed.

I usually tell them they're very cute...but its hard to just go up to a girl and do this to a moving set. I feel I need to interject them by asking for an indirect direction opener, then just saying "you know what...sorry but forget the directions, you're so fucking cute."

I think it carries the same effect. I then go to emotional connection, but when she's moving she's MOVING. I kind of hate daygame or am starting to...I loved it but I don't want to be the guy using a time constraint each time like mystery method....don't know if i should or what.

I rather they think I'm there to talk and make my interest in them sexually KNOWN minus the sexual awkwardness of a first stranger approach.. I open strong, rapport about their day or what they're doing...mostly their motivations etc for something/dreams...and I mean some engage but it seems rushed and uncomfortable (interaction literally lasts maybe 3-4 minutes tops)...One girl even said "sorry you're just making me uncomfortable" while laughing...it was so fucking weird. I felt I kinod her perfectly right away, not too aggressive, and I really did not feel like a creep for doing it...i ramp my kino up than trying to BOOM caveman after an opener. I'm not stupid in this regard. But she said I have a bf...and I said oh really whens the wedding? whens the marriage? She said...sooonn I said Oh nice...you're using that to get rid of me huh *kino* and she said SORTTT of haha but no I do have a bf....

I'm beginning to question my resolve. I could use your advice...maybe Chai's advice too.

Going direct, then going for rapport and then cocky funny/tease in between is usually what i do.

I also wanted to add I'm partly brown and not overweight and am fit. Not like chris down here..but yea. lol


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I like your stuff, great job bro. You're very 60yoc-like. His openers aren't indirect, but they aren't overboard either. 99% of the time my opener is this: "Hey you look interesting so I wanted to meet you."

I have had a lot of flaky numbers. It's not because I build rapport, it's more of the overly gamy. Once I get the number, I make a physical move then leave. What I'm missing is the emotional connection. I am the master of sexual and romantic connection and I actually do qualify them. Instead of qualifying them physically (mostly sexual connection such as, you have a very sexy stare) I'll say something that also lowers ASD. "You seem like a confident girl, I like that." She also gets more comfortable from that.

But the emotional connection is where I suffer man. I always go in like a poker-faced bullet rarely smiling/smirking and I keep asking questions about HERSELF but it's mostly mundane things.

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Its important to note that creating any type of connection will strengthen all the other types of connection. For example: When you develop a solid emotional connection your romantic and sexual connection will be more powerful. All the connections play off of each other.

Don't waste time on uninterested woman. If after a few minutes she is still cold and not contributing much, walk away. There are a ton of beautiful women in this world and only a limited amount of time to meet them. Don't waste time on women who don't like you and wont open up to you.

^^^^^ Good stuff. Great over all post.

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Ironically as I was daygaming here in Corona, CA at a uni campus, I saw this guy talking to a group of 2 girls and I could clearly tell he was "one of us" As he shook their hands and left the set, I went hey man...he's like ??

I'm like "did you make sure to kino?"

He's like NOOO fuckingg way! I've been looking for someone like you!

LOL.

I opened 2 sets infront of him both which went nowhere but hey thats the game. At least the girls weren't creeped out or anything. I consider that huge. Some guys try this and creep a girl out.

Chris...if thats your body holy shit. lol


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But the emotional connection is where I suffer man. I always go in like a poker-faced bullet rarely smiling/smirking and I keep asking questions about HERSELF but it's mostly mundane things
When creating an emotional connection with a woman it is important to trigger an emotion within her and have it relate to the both of you. They generally come easier after the conversation has been flowing for awhile, but if you are limited by time, there is still ways to achieve it. Here's an example:


Hi, my name is Chris, I felt compelled to come up to you and say hi. This may sound cheesy but as i walked by you I felt an overwhelming emotion come back to me from my childhood. You see! I had a crush on this girl in my grade 3 class her name was Mary-ellen Parker. ( smile or have a glazed look in your eye when saying her name) I never had the courage to ever talk to her, then one day she was just gone. I was so sad, The regret of not talking to her haunted me for years. Anyways, you completely remind me of her, You're name isn't Mary Ellen is it? HAHA! Have you ever had anything like that happen to you? Or a reminder of a childhood crush? ( 99% of women had a secret crush on someone).

Another way to create an emotional connection is to show a past vulnerability, one that you have overcome or triumphed over. (losing a stutter, standing up to a bully, your first kiss.etc etc) Be sure to make it a positive experience, or an experience that ended positive( childhood memories tend to have a lot of emotional strength, plus you can show past weakness, without looking weak now)

This will prompt her to tell you about one of her memories, if not. Ask her. The concept here is to trigger a positive memory from her, the more she can relate to your story the better a connection you two will create.

Another way, is to ask her about her passions, and no matter what they are, try and feel them yourself. The more interest you can show in her passions, the more of a connection she will feel for you.

Bottom line is, you can't create an emotional connection if you don't trigger an emotion from her. Childhood memories are a great way to trigger the very strongest of emotions.

Sorry for highjacking your thread Warped.

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Sadly, sometimes it just seems like no matter how sociable you are and then as you transition into direct, or if you go right into direct from a day-game approach as girls are walking...they kind of just take it as a compliment first and then when you start talking they may have to go somewhere like an appointment they made etc. Some girls just have to get home...and those are the ones I think can wait but it's funny because those are the ones usually that already have bf's. And I'm like damnit.

As warped will read, my daygame resolve is ...well weak to say the least. I'm starting to get peeved with approaches. But I'm glad I'm not using a false time constraint unless I feel I should exit the set (Towards the end I just say hey ...so my friends have been over there bla bla) because they're doing something important or it may fuck them up if I kept talking to them and the last thing I'd want is for the poor girl to be like I'd LOVE to talk but i really need to finish this hw >. < ...


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Could you guys go into more detail with the romantic and emotional connection? As in I kinda know what you mean by it and I understand it... But I have no idea whatsoever how to really implement it.

I do okay with the sexual one. But basically that doesn't get them to invest emotion into the interaction... So not anything long term really.

I'm usually pretty cold when I game. And I change the subject when it comes to me having to open up, it has become somewhat of a bad habit for me and it is hard to unlearn.


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