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As true as the statement may be, you claim Stelar's "unapologetic" behavior (there are far better definitions for his ridiculous arrogance for that matter) as alpha behavior. Would you call a man whose thoughts are extremely linear and aggressive as "alpha" behavior? Are alphas all about "I'm right, you're wrong. And not only are you wrong, but you're a fucking retard for having that opinion and disagreeing with me."?
Absolutely. On this subject there happened to be an interesting newsitem on Belgian television just yesterday about the presidential elections in the US. It did not focus on the program of the different Republican candidates and Obama but on the way they all tried to bash one another down. They were calling eachother functionally retarded and totally unreliabe. All believing they were the shit and totally right whilst the other was completely wrong.

Have you ever watched Vladimir Putin? His physical aggressiveness is frightening to many men and he's a black belt judo fighter.

Now take both examples. I've taken an example from US-alpha's (but this can be expanded to Western-Europe, which has about the same way of interacting). They are verbally agressive.
Then you've got Putin who is Eastern-European. In this region the physical is very important. An Eastern-European alpha has to be physically dominant above all.

Ok now back to this topic: Stelar is from Romania which is a former communist country so it's fair to say there was (is prolly as well) a lot of Russian influence. Stelar's style is about showing - physical - dominance. Therefore to Romanian standards he (or atleast the type of persona he portraits) is alpha as fuck. (But also Mike The Situation from Jersey Shore uses his physique to dominate others.)

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Stelar's behavior reeks of a damaging and traumatic past, showing more insecurity than anything else. He's hiding behind his arrogance as a way to hide this fact and it's more pathetic than anything else. Just because he gets laid (if he gets laid) doesn't mean he can be defined as "alpha". You're blindly falling into his frame just like Spice and some other unmentioned members and define him as something of which you have a twisted understanding of in the first place.
This I do agree on. Someone who has a normal emotional setting won't be so blindly focused on mere banging as many women as possible.
As for your last remark I do not completely understand what it is what you're trying to say. I never fall into anyone's frame as I got my own life which is fine to me and supplies me in all my needs. I am no fanboy but I believe his method works. Like I believe that in daily life David D works.
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A true alpha male doesnt have to fight to show that he is alpha. If he encounters another alpha male, he isnt threatened, he welcomes the other man as a long lost brother. You know why he does that? Because a true alpha male is very difficult to find, false wannabes on the other hand are numerous.

Remember that whenever someone gets you angry or gets a response out of you, it means that you react more to that person than that person reacts to you. In other words, youre his bitch. ;)
As true as that might be when it's comes down to the nittygritty the leader of a animal pack (whichever species) will attack his opponent if necessary.
But that does not only count for wild animals:
What did George W. Bush say after a couple of loony arabs flew into the WTC? "We will hunt you down motherfuckers."
What did Iron Margaret Thatcher do when Argentine occupied the Falklands? Send the fucking army across an ocean.


Now one last point on Stelar because I find you all to be focussing far too much on his persona instead of the attitude he's trying to send out: to me he's what Germans would call an Einzelgänger. Someone who does his own thing with little regarding of others and with little need of others. Like Hank Moody in Californication.





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As for your last remark I do not completely understand what it is what you're trying to say. I never fall into anyone's frame as I got my own life which is fine to me and supplies me in all my needs. I am no fanboy but I believe his method works. Like I believe that in daily life David D works.
Note that I'm not commenting on Stelar's method of pick-up whatsoever. The method might work, I don't know because I haven't tried it. The people I'm bashing on are the ones who don't agree with Stelar because of his method (they've probably not even tried it themselves and therefore cannot conclude with certainty - making their arguments stale and shallow), but rather because he sounds so certain in what he says, that they buy into his frame and dare to call it "truth". Not only that, but also attempt to categorize him as an alpha, showing double ignorance since they have no idea what an alpha actually is.

In other words, they're supporting him for all the wrong reasons.
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A true alpha male doesnt have to fight to show that he is alpha. If he encounters another alpha male, he isnt threatened, he welcomes the other man as a long lost brother. You know why he does that? Because a true alpha male is very difficult to find, false wannabes on the other hand are numerous.

Remember that whenever someone gets you angry or gets a response out of you, it means that you react more to that person than that person reacts to you. In other words, youre his bitch. ;)
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hmm I guess ignorance is bliss. Carry on gentlemen.


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hmm I guess ignorance is bliss. Carry on gentlemen.
Yes we will allow you and the rest of the nincompoops to keep your ignorance.


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you guys take yourselves, the forum, posters, methods too serious... this apply to life, and pick up, relax dudes, have fun, all these stupid ass fights are useless...

Anyway the dude is in Romanian... What you guys know about romanian women...I was married to a hungarian, and hung out with romanians/hungarians.. In my experience they were not the smartest girls, and they were pretty open minded..

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hmm I guess ignorance is bliss. Carry on gentlemen.
Yes we will allow you and the rest of the nincompoops to keep your ignorance.
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you guys take yourselves, the forum, posters, methods too serious... this apply to life, and pick up, relax dudes, have fun, all these stupid ass fights are useless...
I think you mistake the gravity of a situation. A fraud protruding himself as a messiah is never to be taken lightly.

With that being said, I don't think anyone is taking the situation so seriously that they are crying war. I think we all can agree that there are those among us who are skeptical of this mans claims do to the nature of his actions on this forum.


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This I do agree on. Someone who has a normal emotional setting won't be so blindly focused on mere banging as many women as possible.
As for your last remark I do not completely understand what it is what you're trying to say. I never fall into anyone's frame as I got my own life which is fine to me and supplies me in all my needs. I am no fanboy but I believe his method works. Like I believe that in daily life David D works.

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A true alpha male doesnt have to fight to show that he is alpha. If he encounters another alpha male, he isnt threatened, he welcomes the other man as a long lost brother. You know why he does that? Because a true alpha male is very difficult to find, false wannabes on the other hand are numerous.

Remember that whenever someone gets you angry or gets a response out of you, it means that you react more to that person than that person reacts to you. In other words, youre his bitch. Wink


As true as that might be when it's comes down to the nittygritty the leader of a animal pack (whichever species) will attack his opponent if necessary.
But that does not only count for wild animals:
What did George W. Bush say after a couple of loony arabs flew into the WTC? "We will hunt you down motherfuckers."
What did Iron Margaret Thatcher do when Argentine occupied the Falklands? Send the fucking army across an ocean.


Now one last point on Stelar because I find you all to be focussing far too much on his persona instead of the attitude he's trying to send out: to me he's what Germans would call an Einzelgänger. Someone who does his own thing with little regarding of others and with little need of others. Like Hank Moody in Californication.
Yes we all fight to protect something that is very important to us. Like the lives of people we are presidents of or at least how they see us. Or oil.

This is interesting because some people think that it is very important to protect ones own dignity on the forum.

One thing that I dont think that I will ever see is a lion fighting to protect himself from a pimpled teenager doubting his pickupskills on an internet forum.

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One thing that I dont think that I will ever see is a lion fighting to protect himself from a pimpled teenager doubting his pickupskills on an internet forum.
Good figurative language. But factually, lions kill cubs.



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another great post...I agree with stelar 100%

call the chick on her bullshit

most women go to clubs to get fucked...thats the fact...especially here in europe where the women are easy!!

most resistance is token resistance. however, it is important to be aware of genuine non-interest as well

both of these come with experience in field

most women go to clubs to get fucked=100% incorrect... most women go to clubs to have fun, get dress up and all pretty, get hit by a bunch of dudes and turn them down... Very few % maybe 10% go with the intention of getting fucked, at least here in USA... But with a guy with skills and the right game MOST of them can be converted.


Not 100% true.



Women go out and get pretty is for both fishing for the 'right one' or one-night stand AND to turn guys down. Women LOVE that feeling of being seduced, they absolutely love it. Women also like to be praised by betas. Absolutely love that also. I have no doubt in my mind all women in clubs are just hoping a smooth motherfucker would just come up to her and they end up fucking behind a dumpster later on or something.

If you think about it, EVERYTHING humans do ties happiness and getting laid (for you see, sexual climax has a shit-ton of benefits as you all know)


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another great post...I agree with stelar 100%

call the chick on her bullshit

most women go to clubs to get fucked...thats the fact...especially here in europe where the women are easy!!

most resistance is token resistance. however, it is important to be aware of genuine non-interest as well

both of these come with experience in field

most women go to clubs to get fucked=100% incorrect... most women go to clubs to have fun, get dress up and all pretty, get hit by a bunch of dudes and turn them down... Very few % maybe 10% go with the intention of getting fucked, at least here in USA... But with a guy with skills and the right game MOST of them can be converted.


Not 100% true.



Women go out and get pretty is for both fishing for the 'right one' or one-night stand AND to turn guys down. Women LOVE that feeling of being seduced, they absolutely love it. Women also like to be praised by betas. Absolutely love that also. I have no doubt in my mind all women in clubs are just hoping a smooth motherfucker would just come up to her and they end up fucking behind a dumpster later on or something.

If you think about it, EVERYTHING humans do ties happiness and getting laid (for you see, sexual climax has a shit-ton of benefits as you all know)

Dude read better before nippicking you are saying what i just said, did you read the last sentence, learn how to read: But with a guy with skills and the right game MOST of them can be converted

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most women go to clubs to get fucked=100% incorrect... most women go to clubs to have fun, get dress up and all pretty, get hit by a bunch of dudes and turn them down... Very few % maybe 10% go with the intention of getting fucked, at least here in USA... But with a guy with skills and the right game MOST of them can be converted.


Not 100% true.



Women go out and get pretty is for both fishing for the 'right one' or one-night stand AND to turn guys down. Women LOVE that feeling of being seduced, they absolutely love it. Women also like to be praised by betas. Absolutely love that also. I have no doubt in my mind all women in clubs are just hoping a smooth motherfucker would just come up to her and they end up fucking behind a dumpster later on or something.

If you think about it, EVERYTHING humans do ties happiness and getting laid (for you see, sexual climax has a shit-ton of benefits as you all know)

Dude read better before nippicking you are saying what i just said, did you read the last sentence, learn how to read: But with a guy with skills and the right game MOST of them can be converted
"Very few % maybe 10% go with the intention of getting fucked, at least here in USA..."

Your last sentence STILL doesn't make this ludicrous statement true. When a women makes the decision to dress sexy and go out to a place full of heterosexual men, they 100% want to get f*cked by the right man (or men...) - meaning, guys with game. They go out HOPING to get seduced, because like I said they love that shit.

And also reject the wrong ones - to feel awesome.

It's not "oh yeah I'm going to this awesome place strictly to have plain 'fun'...I have zero intention of getting some good dick tonight. Let me put on this sexy dress and sexy heels, and this awesome make up. Just to drink and dance and hang with my friends..."


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And also reject the wrong ones - to feel awesome.
Not sure if this is ignorance, or ignorance with a hint of misogyny.

Of course not all women are angels. There are women out there that simply enjoy rejecting guys and being rude to them because they enjoy the feeling of power and validation being handed to them.

But stating that every 'wrong' guy they reject, they reject to feel 'awesome' about themselves is just absurd. You're speaking like every woman out there has borderline syndrome.

Would you say that if a 'wrong' girl walked up and started hitting on you - that you would reject her "to feel awesome"?

They reject for the obvious reasons: You're not their type, they're not interested, or they're not up for it because of x, y and z factors that have happened over the course of the day or night that has impacted her decision.


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Not 100% true.



Women go out and get pretty is for both fishing for the 'right one' or one-night stand AND to turn guys down. Women LOVE that feeling of being seduced, they absolutely love it. Women also like to be praised by betas. Absolutely love that also. I have no doubt in my mind all women in clubs are just hoping a smooth motherfucker would just come up to her and they end up fucking behind a dumpster later on or something.

If you think about it, EVERYTHING humans do ties happiness and getting laid (for you see, sexual climax has a shit-ton of benefits as you all know)

Dude read better before nippicking you are saying what i just said, did you read the last sentence, learn how to read: But with a guy with skills and the right game MOST of them can be converted
"Very few % maybe 10% go with the intention of getting fucked, at least here in USA..."

Your last sentence STILL doesn't make this ludicrous statement true. When a women makes the decision to dress sexy and go out to a place full of heterosexual men, they 100% want to get f*cked by the right man (or men...) - meaning, guys with game. They go out HOPING to get seduced, because like I said they love that shit.

And also reject the wrong ones - to feel awesome.

It's not "oh yeah I'm going to this awesome place strictly to have plain 'fun'...I have zero intention of getting some good dick tonight. Let me put on this sexy dress and sexy heels, and this awesome make up. Just to drink and dance and hang with my friends..."

^ :roll:

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And also reject the wrong ones - to feel awesome.
Not sure if this is ignorance, or ignorance with a hint of misogyny.

Of course not all women are angels. There are women out there that simply enjoy rejecting guys and being rude to them because they enjoy the feeling of power and validation being handed to them.

But stating that every 'wrong' guy they reject, they reject to feel 'awesome' about themselves is just absurd. You're speaking like every woman out there has borderline syndrome.

Would you say that if a 'wrong' girl walked up and started hitting on you - that you would reject her "to feel awesome"?

They reject for the obvious reasons: You're not their type, they're not interested, or they're not up for it because of x, y and z factors that have happened over the course of the day or night that has impacted her decision.
Ok, I may have mis-worded that. +1 Thanks for the correction.

However, they still feel great rejecting so many guys.


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