Game does help. It's similar to a lot of things. You cant just read "the game" or some other book, seminar, etc and replicate what the author has done. It worked for him but won't work for everyone. Like day trading, poker, etc.... Every situation is different and you need the ability to decipher what's the best course of action.

If you were successful with women , then there would be no reason for you to hate me.

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What truly makes no sense is flaming one another.

I don't care if it exists or not - I won't debate it.

I know how to use knowledge and intuition to fuck women - often.

That's it.

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Game is just a simple example of American exageration. But whatevs, who cares.

here is the definition of game by urban dictionary:

The ability to seduce anybody of the opposite sex...or same sex for that matter.

(n) a measure of smoothness with the opposite sex


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I hate you because you give useless advice to young impressionable kids over the internet and insult user's avatars. If you were good with women I wouldn't hate you.

I am speechless.

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Of course there is such a thing as game.

It is just difficult to define what game is. Is having great confidence "game", or looking good, or dressing well, or saying the right things, or being rich, or whatever?

To say that there is no game and either a woman is attracted or not before you even open is just a load of BS. It is said by someone who is doing a lot of things right without knowing what it is that he does right. The arrogance of the statement annoys me.

Basically youre saying that nothing anyone does changes attraction in any direction. You are assuming that there is no game as long as people behave. Guess what, that is game. Going up to someone without vomiting and without hesitating or talking about your Skyrim character or not being a jerk ripping her skirt off, that is also game. It sounds ridiculus but there are people doing that kind of stuff.

This forum is not only for people who already know how to behave, it is for people who are doing something wrong and want help to find out what it is.

Regardless of if someone is good or bad with women, I find it annoying when someone behaves in an arrogant way and gives other people the feeling that their problems isnt worth taking seriously.

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I'm not trying to be a dick Ezo, but you're being a Pick Up Snob in my opinion.

bbardot: you just reminded me about porn

by "game" he means things like

routines
cocky funny
building attraction
kino escalation

these are not required.

all that is required is:

directness
leading
persistence
good target selection
ability to approach and confidence

Funny since the things you mention builds attraction, are cocky funny, escalates kino and if used enough, will be defined as routines.

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I'm not trying to be a dick Ezo, but you're being a Pick Up Snob in my opinion.

bbardot: you just reminded me about porn

Semantics.

Stelar.

U may not be de a indirect guy who relies on routines. But your style is GAME, it is not a bad word, just someone who has good skill. David X is mentioned in THE GAME, your style is not new, only that there are not many who have the balls to do direct all the way

A question please, direct is hard to do, how do u improvise or keep a conversation going for half an hour or so, cuz I know few of the guys who have tried your stuff, but there is a akward silence after your F bombs have been delivered.

I can imagine David X talking forever, he has charm, humour and is a good conversationalist.

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I have covered this many times.

1. Pre-select DTF women.
2. Use takeaways. (look into my lay reports "done in 10 minutes')

It's may seem to the naked eye as an "over-kill approach" , but if you give space and LEAVE ON A HIGH NOTE , then re-approach , she will slowly warm herself to you.

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Some have posted about me having an "edge" in order to pull such things and it is true.

I am very good looking , I am tall , well built and my hair is naturally blond , literally pussy is being thrown at me. (at least it was until I let myself go)

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When I pull I am not focusing on "conversation" , but sexual tension and I can pull such things because of my good genes , but also know how to turn her around by breaking it.

It is purely my style and you have to realize that I was advertising myself as a "dom" by dressing in a suit and THIS CHANGES THINGS.

Now when I go out I get shit tested the fuck out of me (literally almost every time) , but when I was in a suit every time a woman bumped into me she would say "please forgive me" , turning from stone cold bitches into little puppies.

There were times when I would sit at the bar smoking and women would start dancing around me giving me "fuck me eyes".

I hope you realize that I pulled this fast and had all those 3some not just because of my lines , but my lines combined with a flawless imagine.

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if you are geat looking as you say then it is no doubt that you can pick up with anything, even if you did some stupid pickup lines you would still pull many women if you preselect those DTF ones

What happened with you man.

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And yes. Some say he's arrogant and many other things, but Julian Assange is AWESOME with women. Is there a good basis for Stelar's style?

All that I can say is that Stelar's Method worked on my first test (a much milder form). The game is still there but it's one very efficient game.

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