Hello Ryan,

thank you for the Q/A.

I do daygame mostly 2 years. I do get Numbers and the girls confirm to go for a date with me. But one day after they ALL Flaking. Can you understand it? What are the reason, what can I do agains it?

see you

I read all your posts on PUAhate and I disagree with your backwards rationalization. I noticed that you were quite abusive and insulting towards them. You were never invited there to begin with, and your criticism was unsolicited. They had no reason to be nice to you, and you were easily riled up showing yourself to be weak at handling conflicts. Surely an important PUA skill!!?

Someone who's "job" it is to teach social skills should know better. I thought you handled the entire thing badly. You still think you know better than them, but have no psychological or scientific qualifications to support that.

Also, you say that somebody from there was hassling your girlfriend but you didn't prove it in any way when asked. You could easily just be making it up. If you can't easily prove something like that you show poor judgement in accusing people of it.

When you got banned you acted angrily. Weak frame. It was a one day ban. You overreacted. Tooled again.

In general you came across as an unstable person who turns nasty in the face of disagreement, who doesn't really understand that people have genuine reason to disagree, and genuine reason to be angry with PUAs who act like they have all the answers.

You've painted their disagreement as some kind of character flaw, rather than understanding that it's just a difference of opinion.

So my question is this: Have you learned the importance of listening to people before jumping to conclusions about them and what's best for them?

So as Neil Strauss would say an opener is simply a way of getting her attention nothing or nothing less. I have used the ex girl-friend opener as well as there is a fight outside. This escelates the conversation for 2-3 minutes. If I happen to use the ex-girl friend one it will be 5-10 minutes, but in short it OPENS the set. At this point I try to throw negs but it seems as if they are not hugely affective in getting there attention.

Now my question is simple. I throw the opener (Ex-girlfriend/dental floss/girl fight) also a neg (Is ur hair real/fake... you got something in ur eyes... w.e) at this point what do i do to escalate things in a club so I can have her attention fully. This is really A3 phase in the mystery method I am concern, do i root another opener like stack jealous girl friend with girl fight... it seems kinda like i am someone who is akwardly talking. I am totally confused of how to isolate after an opener my target from a group or get more rapport. I need a detailed script so I can follow that structure to do my own thing. I dont want ideas but something that works! Many people go on this and free style but i am very serious about using that structure in my game and leaving the canned stuff out, but for now just use the canned stuff so i can fill the rest later!

TARGET's Background : 5'6 Brunette. Rating - 9. Serbian/European. Great personality, sarcastic, funny and EXTREMELY down to earth. Touchy feely/smiles a lot. Approachable and huge on family and friends. Seems like gf material unless I read her completely wrong.

1st MEETING : I met this recruiter over lunch. I had a no show in the first meeting so I told her I'd make it up to her by taking her to lunch. She was an easy 9 or even 10 (I checked her out on LinkedIn). So I started negging her playfully telling her things like I had to make sure that she wouldn't STALK me before I met her....she laughed the whole time and was giving me IOI's from across the table. Hair combs, leaning forward, telling me you're funny, tilting head e.t.c e.t.c

After lunch. I gave her a hug, got her number, left. Later that week I invited her to a fashion show that I was going to and then a lounge after. We talked on the phone a few times and it was mostly teasing/playful negging.

2nd Meeting: She came to the show with her friend. I gave her a compliment telling her she cleaned up well even though I thought she'd embarras me with her looks. So the night was going well we were chit chatting while my buddy separated the mother hen (who was also hot) from her.

Then a weird thing happened. Another one of my friends (whose also a good PUA) saw his ex (even though he was with another chick that night) and got ticked off about it. He started negging my date and at one point while she was saying a story out of the blue he opened a case of jewelery for me to approve that he was going to give his date's BEST Friend/Mother hen since it was her bday.

My date got super offended because she was saying something and she got completely shut down. She was being nothing but nice the entire time to him. Negging wasn't necessary.

She wanted to leave so I took my wing and left with him and her friend to another rooftop lounge. I recovered well and we talked a lot. She was pushing me the whole time giving me IOI's and I was doing the same. Comfort was built. I kino escalated and just to see if she wanted me I moved away a little every time she touched my arms. But she moved closer.

Her friend had to go to church the next morning so they had to leave. We exchanged hugs on the promise that we'd all hang out sometime again to a comedy club or something. It was a great night.

THIS MORNING : She texted thanking me for inviting them and that my friends are really nice and that both of them had an amazing time.

MY RESPONSE : You're welcome, your friend is awesome too. You can thank me over dinner. I can do Wed or Thu this week. Thu is better.

HER RESPONSE after 7 hours : I'm not sure this week will work for me. Sorry for the late reply I had things going on all day. Good luck at your new job, I'll let you know if anything fun goes on this weekend.

WHAT SHOULD I DO?

Option 1 - Not TEXT back at all until she lets me know what 'FUN' is going on this weekend.
Option 2 - Say something completely off topic but funny as if I didn't really care for the last message
Option 3 - Wish her a good rest of the week like she did (LAME!)
Option 4 - Tell her I'm going to be out of town this weekend but have a great one.

PLEASE HELP!!!! I got the text at 9PM tonight so I am hoping to respond/not respond by end of day tomorrow.

He is a puahater. He is one of the faggoty Looks crew.

PUAhaters are bunch of virgin guys who believe that LOOKs is the magic bullet to having pussy magically in between your legs.

If they are going to bash PUA's and scatter false information, libel, slander, demation and weird virgin theories then it is expected that they will invite retaliation.

We are not doormat's that will just be step on by a bunch of insecured miserable faggots when they spread wrong information.

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Field reports are for betas. That is what betas do, they report to the leader or to the boss. The only person you should report or answer to is yourself.

To make an FR is to acknowledge being a BETA/OMEGA.

Plus, it is a waste of time and mental masturbation. Period.

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The problem with puahate are:


1. Is that they take a few, sometimes not even plausible instances, and then from their subjective reality they start generalizing things. Often making false assumptions from unsubstantiated and invalid premises.

2. When you talk to a girl then they will label it as PUA or gaming a girl. What a bunch of retards. Don't they know that talking/approaching a girl is just part of NORMAL human socialization? What NORMAL people consider as socialization, they label it as an approach or something else. HEALTHY normal people socialize all the time. We are human beings and it is normal to crave for affection, attention and other emotional/sexual needs but in moderation.

3. They are “Insecured”, they assume failure and create a self – fulfilling prophecy which will spiral downwards to hesitation/procrastination and misery.
Plus, their weird crazy belief will hinder them from taking action when necessary.

4. They take no responsibility and blame everything on external factors to protect their fragile sensitive little egos.

5. PUAhaters rely too much on conveying superficial qualities as a way to supplicate to the demands of women that they end up getting preyed by shallow cunts i.e. gold diggers and playgirls. They attract the worst kind of girls which will further reinforce a false belief.

6. PUAhaters are like clueless scientists trying to break down attraction by using one dimensional “factors” – facial images…. It’s just like making scientific correlations from online dating. That is why PUAhaters always fail.

7. They have learning disabilities. They fail in reading comprehension.

8. Extreme Polarize thinking, for PUAhaters; it is either black or white.

9. Habitual Negativity/Pessimism and everything related to it.

10. Naiveté about women’s’ psychology paired with wrong socio-sexual programming.

11. They miss the point of being extroverted and having other things going in life, which is to have more opportunities in meeting women while at the same time being able to zoom out and see life as a whole.

12. The puahaters are absolute retarded bullshitters and are spreading a really negative limiting belief to give to guys. PUAhaters basically say "wait around until you see a girl likes you, and then go for it" which basically leaves everything up to chance and gives you no motivation to try and succeed or alter your fate in any way. This will cause shy introverted virgins to become even more socially withdrawn, anti - social and, to a degree "misogynistic" for having to supplicate to women through looks money and status. Not to mention it is a waste of time. Life is too short to waste time on insecurities.

13. They are too focus on looks and they confused “looks” with “attraction”.

14. They substituted seduction material with weird virgin theories. The problem with intellectually masturbating virgin theories is that the real relevance of a particular fact or concept in these cases is only apparent only after that fact has become known. Before consistent success with sex, the idea of learning to game/pick-up women has been dismissed because of a misperception of irrelevance. Accordingly, the information seeker is trapped in a PARADOX and fails to learn what he or she really needs to know, and can be caught in a kind of intellectual blind spot -- which is exactly what is happening to the virgins in PUAhate.

15. PUAhaters “FAIL” in differentiating truth from exaggeration.

16. Major time-wasters. They wasted potential opportunity cost; time, money and effort in creating a website for bashing. We are here to enjoy life and feel happy. Hating is a denial of our purpose of existence.

17. Attraction is too complex to condense to a theory. All the memories of the stuff they’ve read have cause them to "PAUSE" and think a lot about what to say.

Conclusion: They are so deep in shit that they are beyond help plus most of them are mainly just trolls and/or covert online marketers with a hidden agenda.

And they couldn't stop talking about ‘effing LOOKs. It sounded so retarded.

There were some threads that were so ridiculous so…
I interrupted them when they were intellectually masturbating about some "LMS virgin theory" or some shit. I said "holy FUCK man. What you just described is NORMAL human socialization. It’s what NORMAL FUCKING PEOPLE DO. Just fucking approached and socialize. You are getting stuck thinking about all this shit and trying to make it a formula"

But the retarded twats carried on with their technical bullshit.

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Hey Ryan pretty cool thread. Had a couple questions for yah that i didn't read so far. One was what percentage of girls that you go direct on in daygame/nightgame actually give you a positive answer from? Also when you go direct do you go direct sexually fromm the start? Or just display that you are directly interested in her. Thanks man and like I said great thread I have learned a lot so far!

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Sit close enough to her so there is natural touching leg to leg. Putting your arm around her is completely fine, just don't draw attention to any touching by looking where you touch. It should be (and is!) as natural and normal as sitting yourself comfortably.

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Hey mate,

Great to hear you've picked up some direct material and are starting to get out there and use it!

1) We all have bad days and good days. The short answer is - just accept that and do the best you can.

Long answer:

AA usually comes from a fear of being judged, criticised, ridiculed or rejected. The best way to stop this fear from rearing its ugly head is to take your ego out of it. If your ego is not tied to whether a girl likes you or whether other people see, then there is no downside to doing it. If it goes well, then that's a plus. If you walk away without her number, then you're right back in the same position you were before you approached, so it's neutral. If I gave you the option to flip a coin and win $100 if it's heads, or win $0 if it's tails, then of course you'd opt to flip the coin! What do you have to lose? Exactly the same thing with doing an approach.

2) When you're at work you're often in a totally different mindset than on the weekend. You're in "logical" mode, sitting in front of a screen, not being social, upbeat, emotional and having fun. So of course there's a bit of a transition you need to go through before you can jump into set.

A couple of things to try - the first is, try and make it a rule to do an approach on the way into work in the morning, even if it's just to quickly give a girl a nice compliment. Having done the first one in the morning often puts a whole different feel to your day - you feel more able to accomplish things, happier, and more social in general.

The second is to fit a simple social interaction into the first bit of your lunchbreak to get you in the mood. For example, telling a joke to the person who serves you coffee, or inviting a work colleague to lunch with you. Just getting into the flow of having an upbeat conversation with someone can make it much easier to go over and approach the pretty girl you see.

Finally, you can set yourself a little incentive system - don't allow yourself to actually get your lunch until you've done one approach (however it goes) so the only way to quell those hunger pangs is to get out there and tell a girl how you feel!

P.S. you may find your results are actually better when you're wearing work clothes than casual ones!

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Sound like you're doing ok!

Next time there's a girl you actually feel you'd want to see again, just give her the opportunity to actually connect with you a bit more - open up to her about one thing and listen to her open up about something herself.

What you want is for that girl to have her friend(s) say "oh you slept with THAT guy? He's an idiot!" and have her say "no you don't know him like I do, he's actually a really good guy once you get to know him." That comes from generating a bit more of an emotional bond (and also making sure the sex is amazing! )

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If I understand the question right, you're asking have you learned enough information about PU to be successful at it?

Well, if you're getting results that's a great indication!

Primarily, this should be a stop along the way in a long journey of self-improvement, not an end in itself. I hope most of you don't want to be a PUA for its own sake, you just want to have more attractive women in your lives.

Most guys should come to a place like this, learn some stuff, go out and experiment with it, develop their own style that suits their personality, and then go away and hone it themselves until they no longer need to watch another video, read another ebook or post another thread.

Then they've got this aspect of their lives handled and they can focus on something else, like growing a business, learning martial arts, or travelling, knowing they've always "got it" when it comes to getting girls.

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Your obviously been reading Logan Edwards type of material.

The problem is, if she's not attracted to you, making your sexual intentions clear from the onset will make you appear creepy, needy and perhaps dangerous.

It's just like sexual harrassment, it's not harrassment if the woman finds you attractive, then she's flattered and blushes and laughs it off. But if she doesnt find you attractive...enough, you might lose your job.

Some girls may appreciate the honesty, but sex is not overly interesting to a woman, she can get it any time any way, so you better bring more to the table than just a sexual interest.

Yeah it's completely understandable. I'd have to see you in-set to really figure out exactly what's happening, but it's likely one of the following issues, which all have in common:

Not getting the girl to invest in the interaction. If you're being:
• overly funny
• asking rapport-seeking questions
• talking a lot about yourself
• not really listening to her, or
• filling the pauses in conversation instead of letting her do the talking,
it's likely she'll walk away possibly having had a fun time, but not really feeling any kind of connection and certainly not caring about you in particular.

The secret here is to ask more challenging questions (such as the simple question "why?"), using strong eye contact, leaving silences, and letting her fill the spaces by talking more. The more you use qualification and sexual tension, the more she'll talk, the more she'll invest, and the more likely she is to care about what you think of her and therefore not want to let you down by making sure she comes to your date on time.

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