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Cold approach is simply a numbers game and has a very low seduction ratio, especially in a club setting. Cold approach has it's uses, and can be fun. But it's better to keep it situational, day game, online dating. etc etc. All though you can successfully seduce a woman upon cold approach, it has way too many variables, and is not very efficient. It's essentially like doing door to door sales,( cold) rather then having people walk into your shop. ( warm)
With door to door sales, you never know what you will encounter, you will certainly get doors slammed in your face, even before you get to pitch your product (you). It is simply what it is, you are invading their lives and privacy and far more likely to get a negative response and defensive posture( making it even more difficult to seduce)
Now on the other hand, if someone walks into your shop looking around, at least you know they have somewhat of an interest in your product. A good salesman( PU artist) will close a good portion of these people and with experience, the percentage will get even higher.
I'd much rather spend a lot of time creating attraction. Warming up people, being social, creating an image of a desirable man and moving in on women that are showing me interest when the time is right. ( essential a warm approach)
But the best is a HOT approach.
I've notice on this forum there is an extreme amount of emphasis on approaching and openings and what to say here or what to say there. What I do not see if any emphasis on creating attraction. On making women want you. It's no secret, women want sex and dating just as much as men do. It's believed that it is the mans duty to initiate contact, but women do it all the time. They may not approach a man directly, but they will certainly give signs and even go completely out of their way to get your attention. This is in fact an approach from her, it's just non verbal. Learn to spot the signs, and a woman will tell you everything before you even approach...and yes the better you get at it the better your ratio will be)
Just as there will be a top 10% of desirable women in the club that most men will want, so is there with men. You don't have to be a male super model to be in the top percentile. Women are not as superficial as men. As far as looks, if you are above average looking, it's quite easy to get into that group and become a "quality man" It has everything to do with how you carry yourself, your hygiene, posture, and style and sex appeal. (dancing, posture) This can be attainable by a majority of men, with time and effort and the right state of mind.
Women make every effort to fit the part of being desirable, they get boob jobs, wear make up, heels, go to the gym, starve themselves.....dress sexy, give attitude, shit tests, etc etc. In fact pretty much all they do is work on themselves and becoming more attractive, add a ton of class and they become a goddess.
Just imagine for a second that it was the other way around and women were the aggressors and suddenly we were the ones being chased. (Suddenly we are in the power position) In order for us as the pursued to generate the ideal women, we would focus on our looks, style, persona, posture and social worth. We would be able to pick and chose who we went home with or who seduced us, and it would be more then possible to have an extremely high (80-90%) ratio. WHY? because we would then be in the power position. The choice would now become ours, rather then theirs.
If you had the ability to pick and chose as most desirable women do, you wouldn't want a woman you seen grinding with every guy she could, or a woman that you saw approach 10 men before she came to you. Why would you, you are desired by many. If you heard canned lines, or rehearsed game, you would just laugh at it, and if you are highly desirable, you would hear this a lot, just as women do in the real world. You would be very selective in your choices, you would expect, a woman of class, style, intrigue and most likely never settle for less.
Guess what guys? Any man can do the same as women, they can better themselves enough to create attraction. On the street in the middle of the day I am an 7/8, in a club setting I am a 10. So that means, even if you are a 6 walking to work, you can essentially turn yourself into an 8 in a club setting. Simply by working as hard as most women do on their appearance and image and projecting that image correctly, creating attraction and sex appeal.
As it stands now, the colder the approach the less power you have. You are completely in the hands of your target and whatever mood she may be in. A good artist can surely change her mood, but that's just it, if your not an accomplished PU artist, it will be very difficult if not damn near impossible. If you don't have a true confidence, you will certainly get rattled by the rejection you will get from cold approach. The worst part of it is, it may have nothing to do with your desirability and more to do with the targets present state of mind. So in a sense it can give you false information about how desirable or undesirable you truly are. There is a general mentality on this forum that rejection is OK and one can use it to learn. But if you have no idea why the woman is rejecting you ( million reasons) How can you learn from it?
As the approach gets warmer, so does the power shift. If you can manage to make a hot approach,( girl is 100% into you and showed all the signs) you are essentially in the power position. Suddenly it is the woman worrying about how to impress you, how not to fuck things up. The greatest part of this is that women have no game at all. Why would they, they have never had to. they are easy prey.
Women wear their emotions like a huge banner, if they are into you, you will know. Just look at how women act when they are at concerts for their favorite male pop star, they go crazy, pass out, tremble, cry, they would suck the dick of the security staff just to get a glance of their favorite star back stage.
My advice to all you prospective PUA's and even some advanced ones is this.
Instead of focusing so much on game, escalating, kino, inner/outer game. and all that other shit. Make yourself as completely desirable as you possibly can. Try to create attraction rather then seek it. Work on your social skills, making friends, getting fit, studying body language, learning the psychology of women, learn to dance( i mean really dance, not this side to side bs) learn to be comfortable in your own shoes ( designer shoes) Get a tan, get a wardrobe, if you don't want to dress like a player, then don't fucking try to act like one. It will just make you look worse. If you want to be an artist, focus first on looking the part. What's the point of having the right thing to say, if you are dressed like a muppet with your gut hanging out and horrible posture, it will not matter what you say, you will already be judged.
I have an incredibly high pick up ratio because I have put in the time, i have the experience. I look the part, and i play the part. I don't simply hit on any woman I find attractive, I project myself into their world, through non verbal communications, then i select from the ones that are showing me attraction. I am almost always in a power position. When you start out, you may only have a handful of women to select from, but here's the thing, you are the one selecting.
The thing is with women, especially in a club setting, is they sense other women being attracted to men, and they will become attracted just because others are, once you develop the proper persona, attitude, posture and look coupled with sex appeal, you will become much more desired.
I am not gonna lie to you and tell you looks don't mater, because they do. Big time! But just because you are not genetically handsome doesn't mean you cant get girls. It may be easier for the extremely handsome man but that's just life. Accept it for what it is. Fix what is in your control and accept was in not.
Things you can control
Go to the gym
Buy a wardrobe
Fix your teeth
style your hair
develop impeccable hygiene
become super social
make friends everywhere
research body language
get designer clothes/colognes
learn other languages, or at least how to tell a woman she is beautiful several
Do all this first then come back and learn game. Don't do it the other way around.
Seek warm or hot approaches rather then cold, save the cold approaches for when your skill and look is fully developed, so that you are better suited to handle the huge amount of variables and rejection that come with.
Also an important aspect in this game is logistics, going to the right club, if you go to a club where all the dudes are super good looking and stylish and you are just barely about average, then you are screwed. You must find appropriate venues where you stand out. If your style is generic at certain clubs, find another. I found traveling to smaller venues in smaller cities and towns was very good for evening the odds. The great thing about it is, even though the guys were far less stylish and attractive, the women were pretty much the same. Sure there may of been less of them, but there was always attractive women. Women as a species in general work very hard on their looks. Not so true of men, especially in smaller cities and towns.
Look the part and that's half the battle.
LOL Yeah you and I hold literally the same style, same intentions. Be attractive, capitalize. We both even seem to recommend working on yourself before trying to be the best seducer ever.
It's interesting how so many guys miss out on what a Natural that "can get any girl" does compared to what he actually does. Which is survey the field and find out who holds interest and capitalize on their attraction, Naturals get most women they approach because they focus on warm approaches or going after women who are already interested. Their past experience with women and confidence make hooking up a pleasurable experience rather than a guilty one that conservative America seems to prefer. That is why it becomes so simple at some point that you don't think about it. You choose who you want to hook up with, it's all easy.
Even funnier I'm certainly not the best looking guy in my group, in fact I'm never the best looking guy lol. It's my presence that bags women not anything else. So good looks help but it really is all about the value you assign yourself mentally and present in your body language.
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