I guess it depends what your goals are. With stelar's method, it may be simple and effective but it's designed mostly for ONS. If you can get laid within 15 approaches everytime you go clubbing, then you don't really need to improve much. You're already better then 90% of men at pick up.

Now, I prefer Sexaddict's way of a pua because it doesn't stop at getting laid. It works on your pua skills as a whole. This also depends on your goals. I personally want to be smart and witty when talking. I want to be really smooth and know how to handle different situations efficiently. These skills are transferred to your business life, friends and family.

...so, essentially you gotta choose what you want out of pick up and pick the method that best suits your goals and style.

Last night I got laid , did I get approach invitation ? NO

She was standing at the bar with her female friend.

Me : I want to invite you my place tonight.
She : I have a boyfriend
Me : I don't care
She : I do
Me : If you weren't interested you would have left already
She : That's what you think
Me : we are 2 mature people , I think we should drop the bullshit

I turn my back and fiddle with my phone for a 2-3 minutes

Me : I'm going to stay here until you agree to come home with me
She : You will have to stay a while ( with a smile )
Me : I know you want me too ( as I grab her waist ) , I promise you as many orgasms as possible. (and held the eye contact)

She keeps silence (usually when they do this is because they are about to break)

This is also the point where IT IS KEY TO ESCALATE EVEN FURTHER.

I plant a kiss on her neck and she turns her back on me.

I leave her alone again for 2 minutes , but didn't leave her proximity.

Me : I live 5 minutes away from here. I promise to treat you like a princess , I told you I won't leave , Come on.
She : Ok , but you keep your mouth shut.

She says something to her friend , grabs her purse and I lead her to my car where she insisted to go to her place.

It didn't take more than 20 minutes to pull her.

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* this was my 4th approach of the night , also now I look like a homeless person , my hair is a mess , haven't shaved in 1 month and my shoes were filled with dirt.

Meanwhile all the pretty boys were standing there watching history being made.

SA911 , if you want tips on club game , I suggest sending me a PM , it's not too late to get help.

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@ Stelar

Have you ever gamed in the USA/CAN?


I don't care for your FAKE LAY REPORTS. This is not a lay report Thread. Keep your silly stories for your own posts.

I don't need your advise either. I can spot your BS a mile away.


If you are gonna keep up with these shananigans, At least keep your stories straight.

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Seduce their mind and the rest will follow.

You only proved that you know nothing about women or at least about clubs.

Keep doing your "hot" approaches.

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Have you ever gamed in the USA or Canada?

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Seduce their mind and the rest will follow.

Hmm, it's impossible to tell if he's really lying about that lay or not, but I've never encountered a girl to verbalize, "okay but you keep your mouth shut"

^ that! me neither...

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Haven't you heard,

Homeless people in Romania are the equivalent of George Clooney in the Americas? Dirty shoes show signs of great wealth, intelligence and fertility.

Romania flips all seduction rules, it's completly different from every other european country I have visited, including the one next door to it I was born in. Women are attracted to being sexually assualted and need dirty shoes, crave them, I would as far as to say they LOVE them.

Fun Fact: From a young age, Romanians girls are taught to judge possible suiters totally based on their lack of hygeine. This regional belief stems from old gypsy tradition and is continues today.

EDIT: This is 100% true because I read lay reports on the internet by Stelar.

Anyone remember Khuram? lol. I think him and Stelar should make a movie directed my PUAMoviemaker.

EDIT x 2: Sorry SA for trolling your post.
BTW +1 on the information

SADDICT AND STELAR - you are both bang out of line.

Please respect each other on the forum. No trolling please.

You are both GREAT pua's. Please learn to respect each other's styles.

Stelar is the real deal. He tells it like it is and these are definitely real lay reports.

Saddict is also the real deal.

Please do not flame each other and let's get down to helping each other out.

Hey SexAddit911.

I find your post to be very insightful. Got some good inspiration from it! Thanks for posting.

I do believe image had a lot to do with game. I experience this everyday! In my old job, I have time to work on temps and get them to warm up. Once done, it's easy! They'll be trying to impress me. It's really fun now that I think of it. My new job is a total different story. Guys here carry themselves to be extremely alpha. They try to out play one another with their weekend stories and such. This is one reason why I'm learning the way of PUA. Because your post I decided to hit the gym harder and give it my all! No more half ass-ing everything.

Thanks for taking your time to share your experience with us.

-Jax

@Stelar

Yea I don't see that happening in the US. Possible, but very unlikely.

What country were you in when you did this?

DUDE, AMERICAN WOMEN ARE EASY

that is 100% true man.

Get it in your head, american women are so freekin easy.

Your lucky to be in the states man

you think european women are easy (they are) but let me tell you, american women are VERY easy and way more easier than european chicks

Im in the UK, but the american are ssooooooooooooooo freeking easy, its awesome.

believe it man!!!

Ooooooook man!!!

I will believe it!!!!

American women are easy as long as I believe it!!

Cuz if I believe it I will make it realityyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

I can seduce any women I want

Thankssssssssssssss man

Stelar's approach works as does SexAddict's.

I live in probably one of Europe's largest tourist destination and we have a strip full of night clubs which I visit weekly. 1/3 of the people are locals and 2/3 are tourists, English tourists mainly.

The clubs are open all day and night but get busy at 11pm and starts to die down around 6/7am.

You have to start with Sexaddict's approach. It's the way it works. Nobody comes to these places just for a quick drink everyone is here to have fun first and THEN get laid. These people have travelled over a 1000 miles to get here and typically they go out in groups (5-10 of them at least). They all came to have fun and sex.

If you walk up and start with Selar's approach to a set like this you're getting blown the fuck out the water big time, and if a bouncer hears you might get booted out. None of these girls are going to stand up in front of their 10 friends and go home with you or take you to their hotel. Just won't happen. Exceptions of course, but generally no. So this is where you can use Sexaddict's method or the normal typical PUA style of indirect/direct whatever.

As the night comes to an end, the fun is over and not everyone would have up a guy/girl. This is where Stelar's approach may work. Again no girl is going to agree to having sex to a total stranger in front of her group of 10 friends who won't let her live it down. Girls are always in competition with each other and they won't let another girl have the opportunity of saying the other is a slag or easy. However, this will work with smaller groups at the end of the night or those that a rather drunk.

Personally, I haven't tried Stelar's approach so I could be talking absolute BS. But I come here at least once a week, I know people who work in the clubs, I know the secret password to get 2 euros off your drinks. I have a good feel for how this place works.

The moral of the story is every place is different. I know some Eastern Euro woman are very sexual so Stelar's could work very well there. Where as a classy club in West London, no. Never. You'll probably be arrested for sexual harassment.

Game is generally the same, but you do have to calibrate where you're at. If you're going to your local club in your home town some girls go out just for shags - Stelar's approach. But you have to calibrate. A girl with 10 friends will not come home with you using Stelar's approach, unless she's really drunk/desperate. In fact, most girls go out for shags but Stelar's approach just won't always do it. His figures prove that, after 4 approaches he got a girl on the 5th. Numbers game really. Hot approach or normal PUA method will have a better success rate if you do it right.

The fact is: there are no rules. What works for you works. Stelar might have this sexy charm he doesn't even know about which makes woman come home with him and his whole style could be BS but it's his persona that gets the chicks.

This community really needs to stop thinking about what style works best, ditch the canned lines get out and fucking do it.

Hey, I'm no PUA god. I rarely approach. I fuck girls in my social circle and friends of my friends. They introduce us and I'm working my game. If I didn't have this I would have to approach, but I don't have to! The only times I approach is when I get a feeling inside that it's right, that I should speak to her. I don't force myself to speak to a stranger, humans operate on feelings*. "OMG!!" I hear you saying, well that's how it works for me and I get women. That's the situation I'm placed in so what I do works for that situation. And continuing the moral of the story: everybody's situation is different!

*Obviously I force myself to approach otherwise I wouldn't get better, but what I mean is that I don't force myself to approach because I think that's what I SHOULD do because that's the RIGHT thing to do. I force myself to approach when it feels right. If you all understand me.

hahaha, american women are easy tyganasty

You need more field experience