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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 2:49 am 
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So I used to work with this girl and always found her attractive but obviously you can’t act on it while you’re working with her, or not unless you’re really sure it’s going to work out. We chatted a lot and I enjoyed hanging out with her (it was quite a relaxed workplace so it was a bit like that). I’d say I was fun and funny and cool towards her but not really flirtatious. I think I showed her a lot of my good qualities and I was obviously looking out for IOIs (although I wouldn’t have used that term then as I wasn’t aware of game) but didn’t really get anything I was sure about.

I’ve chatted to her a bit on Facebook since then and I bumped into her in town and had dinner with her and her friend. We always get on well but there isn’t that much of a spark there at the moment and maybe I haven’t done enough to create one. I asked her quite directly one time if she wanted to meet for a drink and her response was “well probably wont be this month as all seems to have gone a bit crazy busy plans wise, but maybe mid march ish if you are around”. I took this to mean “I’m not really that into the idea” so I didn’t try to follow up on this suggestion.

It’s possible I’m in the friendzone already and that may be hard to reverse, but I like her enough that I don’t want to just give up. I’d like to try and create a bit of a spark if that’s possible and maybe push some of her buttons, but not quite sure how to shift the agenda since it’s been a bit too plutonic up until now.


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I am a big advocate of the friend zone reversal - as I know are the owners of this forum and Gambler/Adam Lyons.

I believe it's really a 1 - 2 -3 approach.

You already are her friend...you probably may or may not kino, and you probably may or may not have connected on a deep rapport level (one on one). What you need to really do here is 1 day just start as you do like a friend (I assume you banter with her or you're just a friendly guy..) Start bantering. Once you banter, start kinoing. Once you kino, slowly escalate it...I do believe doing a "DIRECT GAME" in a friend scenario can paint you to be this Jeckyll and Hyde creepster, even as a good friend or just a regular friend with her.

Escalate kino and she'll feel a sexual vibe guaranteed. By escalate I mean hold it longer with a smile on your face (the charming vibe), and then maybe ...take it up more....get more sexual with the escalation.

Only way.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 10:40 am 
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I am a big advocate of the friend zone reversal - as I know are the owners of this forum and Gambler/Adam Lyons.
Cool, any other threads you could link?
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You already are her friend...you probably may or may not kino
This is the wierd thing with her - I remember the first time I deliberately kinoed her (although again I didn't use that word at the time). She didn't really make any response, she just carried on like it hadn't happened.
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you probably may or may not have connected on a deep rapport level (one on one).
No. Wide rapport all the way. Again, because she's so casual about everything I think deep rapport might be more of a challenge than usual.
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Start bantering. Once you banter, start kinoing. Once you kino, slowly escalate it...
Again tricky though if she doesn't seem very responsive to the initial kino.
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I do believe doing a "DIRECT GAME" in a friend scenario can paint you to be this Jeckyll and Hyde creepster
I'm glad you said this, and this is why I didn't want to push the drink idea, as I don't want to go from acting like a friend to acting like I want more in a really unsubtle way - then I'll probably end up with neither.
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Escalate kino and she'll feel a sexual vibe guaranteed. By escalate I mean hold it longer with a smile on your face (the charming vibe), and then maybe ...take it up more....get more sexual with the escalation.

Only way
I hear what you're saying man. Maybe I just need to get better and more confident with kino and she might find me more persuasive...

Thing is though, I probably won't see her unless I arrange some kind of meet up in which I can escalate this kino, and she wasn't too responsive to my last suggestion. I need some way to meet up with her so I can amp things up. I have her on Facebook and her phone number so maybe could phone instead.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 11:28 am 
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If she's not noticing the "starter" kino - this is a GOOD thing. What she should FEEL is the sexual kino as you ramp it up, as you hold kino longer...as you become more intimate.


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