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Rejection. That one word is the source of so much fear in guys and its one of the top reasons men don't improve with women. What these men fail to realize is that rejection is a good thing.

Rejection exist for a reason. Rejection keeps people who are not compatible with one another away from each other. This is a very good thing! But why?

In order to get laid you must find woman who are open to getting laid and who you share a connection with. Rejection filters out all the women who fails to meet those two criteria. In essence rejection is a screening process. It filters out all the women who you are not going to have sex with and allows you to find the ones you can have sex with. Its a massive time saver.

If you never get rejected your going to waste a ton of time on women who have no intentions of ever dropping their pants for you.

I rather approach a woman and get instantly rejected than waste 20 minutes on her to only find that shes not a good prospect. By getting instantly rejected I have just saved 20 minutes than I can now use to find woman who are open to getting laid and who like me.

Go out, meet women and if you get rejected a lot, big deal. The more rejections you get the closer you get to getting laid. Everytime you get rejected your one chick closer to finding one that wants your dick.

Eventually (if you stick with it) you will get better and get rejected less and less but it will always exist. Embrace it.

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If you never get rejected your going to waste a ton of time on women who have no intentions of ever dropping their pants for you.
No. All men, all women, all animals enjoy sex. If you waste your time with women who will never drop her pants for you... who's fault is that? Yours b/c at the end of the day she is going to find and fuck some other guy with better game than you. Why can't you be that other guy?


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If you never get rejected your going to waste a ton of time on women who have no intentions of ever dropping their pants for you.
No. All men, all women, all animals enjoy sex. If you waste your time with women who will never drop her pants for you... who's fault is that? Yours b/c at the end of the day she is going to find and fuck some other guy with better game than you. Why can't you be that other guy?
This is exactly like bodybuilding. The more volume, the less the intensity/quality. The more intensity used, the less volume. The more girls you approach, the less quality of your interactions. The more quality your interactions, the less girls you approach. You need an equilibrium. That's how you think Tyga.

BUT in this situation, there is no such thing as "quality" of interactions. You are not going to increase or decrease your amount of humor/wit/spitting bro game for each interaction. Each interaction should have one approach, that's it.

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This is a great way of framing rejection. Not only does it act as a screen for DTF chicks, it also can provide good feedback on why a particular set chose to reject in a specific circumstance, and also builds confidence over time, lessening AA.


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If you never get rejected your going to waste a ton of time on women who have no intentions of ever dropping their pants for you.
No. All men, all women, all animals enjoy sex. If you waste your time with women who will never drop her pants for you... who's fault is that? Yours b/c at the end of the day she is going to find and fuck some other guy with better game than you. Why can't you be that other guy?
You cant get every girl. Rejection is a part of ever seducers life. Sometimes its not even you, its her. Perhaps shes lesbian, perhaps shes not mentally and emotionally open to being seduced, perhaps your just not compatible with her, ect... In many of those cases the woman you approach will reject you. This is a good thing as you dont have to waste anymore time on her.

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Hey, it makes a lot of sense!

I all theory at the moment but I really enjoy these topics. Once I'm back in society don't think I'll feel it as bad as I do now with this in the back of my head.


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If you waste your time with women who will never drop her pants for you... who's fault is that? Yours b/c at the end of the day she is going to find and fuck some other guy with better game than you. Why can't you be that other guy?
You're delusional and blind.

Attraction my friend exists and not only does it exist, girls feel it too.
You fancy a girl. She doesn't fancy you. No sex.
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You fancy a girl. She fancies you. Sex.
You: Fuck yea MM works motherfuckerssssss. I banged a girl, totally had my A-game on!! She was sucking my dick like she was my routinesssss whazzzzuuuupp.

Get a grip of reality. People can improve their skillset yes, but there will always be girls who simply do not like you.


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Rejection. That one word is the source of so much fear in guys and its one of the top reasons men don't improve with women. What these men fail to realize is that rejection is a good thing.

Rejection exist for a reason. Rejection keeps people who are not compatible with one another away from each other. This is a very good thing! But why?

In order to get laid you must find woman who are open to getting laid and who you share a connection with. Rejection filters out all the women who fails to meet those two criteria. In essence rejection is a screening process. It filters out all the women who you are not going to have sex with and allows you to find the ones you can have sex with. Its a massive time saver.

If you never get rejected your going to waste a ton of time on women who have no intentions of ever dropping their pants for you.

I rather approach a woman and get instantly rejected than waste 20 minutes on her to only find that shes not a good prospect. By getting instantly rejected I have just saved 20 minutes than I can now use to find woman who are open to getting laid and who like me.

Go out, meet women and if you get rejected a lot, big deal. The more rejections you get the closer you get to getting laid. Everytime you get rejected your one chick closer to finding one that wants your dick.

Eventually (if you stick with it) you will get better and get rejected less and less but it will always exist. Embrace it.
I understand where you are coming from in regards to accepting rejection as a part of pick up. And to be able to accept it and move on.

To say it's a good thing? I disagree. Accept it yes. Embrace it as a good thing NO.

A lot of people think there is something to learn from rejection, but unless you are actually asking the woman why she is rejecting you, then how could you possibly learn from it. Other then realizing it's not the end of the world.

Also I hear a lot of people saying it will create confidence, but again, how is being turned down creating confidence. I accept rejection, not every woman is gonna want to be with me. They may have a million reasons and that is acceptable. But a GOOD THING??? hell no! Especially if it's happening all the time, and to people just starting it out. I would imagine it could be incredibly damaging to ones confidence.

The general consensus on this forum is to do pick up with approaches and words alone. I would like you all to try to see outside the box for a minute.

Verbalization is merely a small percentage of communication. There is many ways to approach a woman without even having to verbalize anything. There is way's to find out if a woman is interested or not without having to be verbally rejected ( can do more harm then good)

Almost all initial attraction is physical. Sure you can charm a woman, and seduce her with your words and wit. But your initial approach and her reactions are generally based on her level of attraction to you. Anyone can enhance that attraction with game. But if there is no initial attraction at least a little bit, your words are not going to matter. One can easily find out the level of a woman's attraction or approachability without even having to approach and engage in a conversation. If you know how to look for the signs, you can basically cut your potential rejection rate down to next to nothing.

In a club or social setting where you have a few hours, you can do micro approaches, get into their world. Say hello, then walk by, Smile at them, wink at them. dance in the general vicinity, introduce yourself to their friends. Start a friendly conversation with them, anything to get them to notice you. and then go back into their world later on, and actually see if they are showing you any type of interest. You could get into their line of site, show interest with your body language and get signs in return. The unconscious never lies. If you are within a woman's radar and you make your presence known, you can get a general idea of her interest.

Here's the thing, a lot of desirable women will reject your words even if they are attracted to you. But if you see the signs, physical and unconscious, you can keep pursuing, knowing it's just a shit test and she wants you to chase her. But if you are not aware of the signs you will most likely take the verbal rejection as a full on rejection.

Dont get me wrong, there is tons of women out there that are totally turned on by a mans intellect, but these are the women you must approach in a friendly manner, without any pick up intentions. If you are relying on your wit rather then your look, then be indirect. Show them your worth. But if you are going in trying to mack a woman and full on seduce her, then look for the signs first. Get good at spotting both good and bad. You can save face, if there is not any good physical interested signs and if you must still approach, you can change your tactics.

There is nothing wrong with being rejected, and it is wise to accept if for what it is, but by no means must you embrace it. It's not the proper mentality to have. If you went into a job interview with the mentality that it's ok if you dont get the job, their is a good chance you will not get the job.

Save your rejection acceptance for cold approaches, day game, etc, expect it, and you will not be surprised. Focus on learning how to approach without actually approaching verbally and I guarantee you, you will not only eliminate a lot of rejection, but you will also be extremely efficient in identifying the women that are interested and seduce-able.

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Also I hear a lot of people saying it will create confidence, but again, how is being turned down creating confidence.
In psychology, they've found that failing at tasks produces a general sense of confidence because one knows in the future they can cope with failure = no longer afraid of the outcome = confident. However, failing by itself not going to grow confidence -- but avoiding failure while getting success does seem to hinder it's growth. This holds truth with what I've observed in my life.
I think it's a little more complicated than that.

The feeling that an individual gets from over-coming failure is earned once that person experiences failure and then through hard work turns that area into one of success. So it may help a newbie to fail in his approach from time to time, as long as he can still retain a sense that that failure was irrelevant to later success.

But a newbie who goes out and spends most of his time failing and who's time sarging consists largely of rejection and awkward social situations is going to eventually give up after getting more and more dis-illusioned with the sarging process.

I would argue that most newbies don't need seek out rejection, as rejection will find most first time sargers. What I think is more important is new guys searching out positive experiences that will spur them on.


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If you never get rejected your going to waste a ton of time on women who have no intentions of ever dropping their pants for you.
No. All men, all women, all animals enjoy sex. If you waste your time with women who will never drop her pants for you... who's fault is that? Yours b/c at the end of the day she is going to find and fuck some other guy with better game than you. Why can't you be that other guy?
Really? What about asexuals? Do they enjoy sex? What about rape victims after 2 days? Do they enjoy sex? Whose fault is it then that you've been rejected by a lesbian? Your game is not good enough to seduce someone who's not even attracted to males...wow...that concept is not delusional at all /sarcasm/. All animals enjoy sex? Really? Well the female lion definitely does not enjoy it as much as it hurts to her, but she has to coop with it if the species wants to live.

Also about that better game thing. Let's say you're right. Let's say the "better game" will ALWAYS win the chick. But then may I ask... why would I bother with bitches who require super-uber level game, when I can find quality bitches with my level(which is not bad at all fyi) all the time. Oh sure... forgot... you too must think that hotter chicks are more difficult...and you're the guy who counts IOIs and negs, am I right?

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Rejection. That one word is the source of so much fear in guys and its one of the top reasons men don't improve with women. What these men fail to realize is that rejection is a good thing.

Rejection exist for a reason. Rejection keeps people who are not compatible with one another away from each other. This is a very good thing! But why?

In order to get laid you must find woman who are open to getting laid and who you share a connection with. Rejection filters out all the women who fails to meet those two criteria. In essence rejection is a screening process. It filters out all the women who you are not going to have sex with and allows you to find the ones you can have sex with. Its a massive time saver.

If you never get rejected your going to waste a ton of time on women who have no intentions of ever dropping their pants for you.

I rather approach a woman and get instantly rejected than waste 20 minutes on her to only find that shes not a good prospect. By getting instantly rejected I have just saved 20 minutes than I can now use to find woman who are open to getting laid and who like me.

Go out, meet women and if you get rejected a lot, big deal. The more rejections you get the closer you get to getting laid. Everytime you get rejected your one chick closer to finding one that wants your dick.

Eventually (if you stick with it) you will get better and get rejected less and less but it will always exist. Embrace it.
I understand where you are coming from in regards to accepting rejection as a part of pick up. And to be able to accept it and move on.

To say it's a good thing? I disagree. Accept it yes. Embrace it as a good thing NO.

A lot of people think there is something to learn from rejection, but unless you are actually asking the woman why she is rejecting you, then how could you possibly learn from it. Other then realizing it's not the end of the world.

Also I hear a lot of people saying it will create confidence, but again, how is being turned down creating confidence. I accept rejection, not every woman is gonna want to be with me. They may have a million reasons and that is acceptable. But a GOOD THING??? hell no! Especially if it's happening all the time, and to people just starting it out. I would imagine it could be incredibly damaging to ones confidence.

The general consensus on this forum is to do pick up with approaches and words alone. I would like you all to try to see outside the box for a minute.

Verbalization is merely a small percentage of communication. There is many ways to approach a woman without even having to verbalize anything. There is way's to find out if a woman is interested or not without having to be verbally rejected ( can do more harm then good)

Almost all initial attraction is physical. Sure you can charm a woman, and seduce her with your words and wit. But your initial approach and her reactions are generally based on her level of attraction to you. Anyone can enhance that attraction with game. But if there is no initial attraction at least a little bit, your words are not going to matter. One can easily find out the level of a woman's attraction or approachability without even having to approach and engage in a conversation. If you know how to look for the signs, you can basically cut your potential rejection rate down to next to nothing.

In a club or social setting where you have a few hours, you can do micro approaches, get into their world. Say hello, then walk by, Smile at them, wink at them. dance in the general vicinity, introduce yourself to their friends. Start a friendly conversation with them, anything to get them to notice you. and then go back into their world later on, and actually see if they are showing you any type of interest. You could get into their line of site, show interest with your body language and get signs in return. The unconscious never lies. If you are within a woman's radar and you make your presence known, you can get a general idea of her interest.

Here's the thing, a lot of desirable women will reject your words even if they are attracted to you. But if you see the signs, physical and unconscious, you can keep pursuing, knowing it's just a shit test and she wants you to chase her. But if you are not aware of the signs you will most likely take the verbal rejection as a full on rejection.

Dont get me wrong, there is tons of women out there that are totally turned on by a mans intellect, but these are the women you must approach in a friendly manner, without any pick up intentions. If you are relying on your wit rather then your look, then be indirect. Show them your worth. But if you are going in trying to mack a woman and full on seduce her, then look for the signs first. Get good at spotting both good and bad. You can save face, if there is not any good physical interested signs and if you must still approach, you can change your tactics.

There is nothing wrong with being rejected, and it is wise to accept if for what it is, but by no means must you embrace it. It's not the proper mentality to have. If you went into a job interview with the mentality that it's ok if you dont get the job, their is a good chance you will not get the job.

Save your rejection acceptance for cold approaches, day game, etc, expect it, and you will not be surprised. Focus on learning how to approach without actually approaching verbally and I guarantee you, you will not only eliminate a lot of rejection, but you will also be extremely efficient in identifying the women that are interested and seduce-able.
Sex man i know where you are coming from but the wm, model is just faster, you are more into the seduction aspect of it, i did your approach for while is just a bit slower...With that being said, what really works for me, is to have a combination of screening women like you say:"Focus on learning how to approach without actually approaching verbally and I guarantee you, you will not only eliminate a lot of rejection, but you will also be extremely efficient in identifying the women that are interested and seduce-able."By the way sometimes you could make mistakes in the reading cause some women are shy or weird....then approaching and if the interaction of the level of interest, compliance, dynamics, chemestry is not going anywhere cut it short, maximum time for me 15-20 minutes, but sometimes if am not sure or i fuck up or whatever, i leave then come back later a second time, this could work too.. Lets say 2 hours doing the hook stuff of what you do sex man...

1 girl lets say= one hour to 2 hour seduction, but developing the cool, attractive dude, life of the party, coming with a position of strength...your stuff(sex man), that is 2 girls a night in a 4 hour club/lounge, it works for you good do to your level of skill, but you do not like ons.

lets say i read the interest and/or seductable and i attack right away. and i give her max 20 minutes of my time that is 12 girls a night----chances of success is greater even with some basic game.

It depends to a particular players goal..

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To be rejected on an all out level to the point where you could never again hope to have sex with that women does not usually happen. I think people count rejection as not complete failure and outside of their.possibilities, but as a dramatic drop in chances of being able to sleep with the girl.

I have been told to "fuck off" with a harsh push multiple times a night, this doesn't mean i'll never be able to sleep with them. I'm not being unrealistically optimistic when i say this either.

I look at 'rejection' as neither a good nor bad thing, but rather an experience. It is what it is, you subconciously learn from everything, rejection is no exception.

If you look at it from a cave man perspective, at the end of the day, all we are biologically meant.to care about is the frequency of how much we're carrying out the reproductive roll, not focusing on rejection as being a good or bad thing. The caveman is not concern with how many girls he had.to approach to get laid, is he really going to think about his batting average?

I'm not saying you should not try to be the best man you can be, in order to not only get rejected less, but to excell yourself in all areas. But at the same time, it's not something conciously worth worrying about. Rejection suddenly becomes this big deal when we have thoughs about it.

So we try and make ourselves feel better by saying it's good since we can't stop identifying with it. Root problem will be our perspective on rejection


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