Hi,

I'm new to this game. I am a good looking guy, 20 years old and I've been approaching girl lately in the Montreal area. I always open with an opener and i do get INTEREST from the girl.

However, everytime i want to make a transition from the opener... i get small talk and the girl gets bored even if I make some statement and not questions.

I just CAN'T SEEM to show some value.

How do you we show that and how do we go from small talk to interested talk.

Thanks a lot.

Perhaps if you gave us some example on how you try transitioning we could tell you what's wrong with it...

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Well,

I always use an opinion opener ... get their answers and I always follow that by...

So, how do you know each other... are you sisters ? I get very good answers, laughs and some IOI.

BUT THEN,

it gets ugly. I tend to say : '' Where you from ? '' Has they answer, I often try to say a comment on where they livre or on their name... but the conversation doesn't go anywhere sexy or doesn't show any value.

I know that I need to look at them more in the eyes, my body language needs some work too but I DO think my main weakness is after the hookpoint - transition . I feel like sometimes with a HB 6 - 7 ... I get it away more with my look then my actual skills.

Thanks for any advice !

Thanks for any advice.

I always show value with a DHV story. It is somewhat of a crutch for me but I'm just getting back in the game, and I do cold approaches which are a little intimidating and hard.

"How do you know each other?" can be a good lead into some routines like Best Friends Test. I'm trying to come up with more on my own. My premise is whatever their relationship is, I'll bring up a interesting psychological aspect. For example if they are friends, i'll do the Friends test but if they're sisters, I'll say "You know some people believe that close sisters are able to communicate almost telepathically?" and fluff talk about the connection sisters have and how it can be as deep as any other relationship.

This isn't groundbreaking but girls love interesting stuff like this, especially compared to "Where you from?/Where do you work?/Where you goin?"

So basically, use the small info you get off the opener to transition into a routine, it looks spontaneous and as if you just have to get this interesting factoid out, which they can relate to.

The conversation doesn't go anywhere sexy? Well isn't it your job to do that? I don't really follow MM. It's good, but not really my style. Even if I open with something you mentioned I will transit like this:

"Look, I really came here because I think you are gorgeous and I had to talk to you"

Now that will get the conversation sexy...

Or if you really prefer indirect then, as RedCali said, pretty much some routine should follow the opener.

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yeah, unless you come up with a good follow up after "where are you from?" it's not really a good way to continue your conversation.
if you're not too sure how to continue after she tells you where she's from, you can say "so the girls from ---- always ----?" jokingly. if she's all giggly, you can say giggly. the thing is you have to make it sound fun.

it can be like "so the girls from calgary are all this pushy?" as a joke
or sometimes i say, "oh that's where they keep all the cute girls huh?"
but always with a flirting smile.
if you're good looking these things should work and the second one is indirectly saying you find them cute which is a good way to show you're interested. and you'd be surprised of their responses if you built up nicely before then.

you still need to find your own way though, good luck!