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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 9:00 am 
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So I write this report to capture my first two nights out darting by myself as a rAFC:


Night one- Sydney, the Rocks

So I start this Saturday night at a 21st with an Italian friend, naturally we ate a lot. About midnight we get to a club in the rocks and meet some more friends and I leave to put my new mindset into test. Being a night club with loud music and being a smoker, I head for the outdoor area (you can't smoke indoors in Sydney) and look for two sets. Being a naturally open and carefree guy, I did not anticipate opening would be a drama for me as a rAFC but I had a few HB8's and HB9's I tried to approach and found the butterflies in my stomach were so bad I had to go to the shitter after each attempt.

So this was a total fail and quite disheartening for me. I couldn't be sure if it was the MASSIVE amount of food I had eaten with dinner or the fact I was looking at game differently and now had a phobia of approach. Either way, I kept telling myself it was the food.


Night two - Sydney Uni Party

So this event was last night. It has been about 3 weeks since the 21st and as much as I haven't done anything between this time, I have constantly been thinking about game and how I wish to be good at it, also reading into NLP and some forum posts. I went into this party with 15 odd people I know but found a way to peal off (again being the only smoker) and found a few two sets to open with a basic (and none to unique) opener and I engage them quite easily. I set a time limit, I didn't neg (rookie error I hear you saying) and I had them following the conversation I was dictating. I fluffed around a bit, then some more, then I realised I'm stuck, I could have peeled my mark off and gone for a close but I didn't. I don't know why but I found I was soon talking myself into moving away and trying again. Exactly what I did.

After a refresh, and A bit of a chat with my mates, I head out for more game. Another 2 set, same story. A 3 set, same story. Another 2 set, you get the idea.

Another break to chat to my mates. At this point I should mention, I wasn't peacocking (beyond the realms of the theme of the dress up party that is). And one of my mates had a pin stripped hat which I stole, considering it might be useful. Back into it and I open a 2 set, give a best friend test and single out the mark. Then we fluff a bit and joke around using the hat and I get a K-close. Not bad I think to my self but over the course of the next 2 odd hours we talk and make out in the corner with the odd appearance of her friend to bum a snake and say a few unimportant things. When the party finishes I get a number and a goodnight kiss and make my way to my car for a sleep (I live about an hours drive from there).



So that was my adventure so far and I notice confidence and working the sets was a lot better by the end of the night. But I'm more confused and asking questions of how I can fix major problems quickly. First of all, as much fun I had with this last girl, I feel like it was very, very AFC to have hung around for that long. Should I have K-closed, N-closed and disappeared for another set..? Singling out the mark from the set, I need to figure out why I stick here, and how to overcome. The old "I need to show you something..." should be my key?

Yes, I looked specifically for two-sets because I believed they are easiest and if I couldn't find one I went for the three-set all female.


Thanks for reading and i look forward to any advice you have.

Kingcrossy


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 9:02 am 
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Auto corrects and typos courtesy of Apple

Naturally "bum a snake" sound equate to "bum a smoke"


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:42 pm 
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So I have just returned from a night in the south Sydney City and George street area. Again, out with a group of mates, but using this as a combination night to try some more game. I start on a two set and strike out early due to a mate busting in and ruining my story. No sweat, I now know I don't have problems with the approach, I have the confidence to interrupt their conversation and make this about me.

Next I find another two set, and same opener, get the attention. I neg as I should and ignore the mark for a few minutes. I don't tell them I'm on a time limit, still making basic mistakes but I wrapping my head around it. I fluff a touch then start talking to the better of the two. I stick again on how to break her off a close. It baffles me why I can have a general idea but can't even attempt this. But I suppose this is how it is in the beginning.

I try a few more sets and the same deal. Then my mates move into a night club, I hate this, I dance average for a white boy and can't see how the game works in these places so I give up for the night. I had another crack at it and I'm happy.

On the way home I have a crack at a 3 set on the street, halfway through the opener they lose interest, I suppose they had places to be or I missed the delivery. Either way, one last try before bed brings me a smile.

How can you not be confident when just attempting the game males you feel good?


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 12:55 pm 
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So it's been a little while since my last post and it's been almost as slow in life.

I met up with a wing here in sydney a few weeks ago and we hit a bar in the Cross with our first attempts together. We seem to flow well together and have similar strategies. Baza has more experience then I and can escalate and phase shift a bit more fluently then I can. We start with a 2 set upstairs. They were nothing special but we were just wetting our whistles. We find soon they are part of a hens party and we keep being cut off by the others as they walked past. Good practice for the opening and shift to rapport building but nothing else. Seating was terrible so we weren't able to get much keno escalation with them and I was too far away and had to lean in to hear what was being said. A point baza helped me realise was easily mistaken for being needy. Point taken

Next I open a two set next to us in the smoking area. HB7 and her friend, used the music playing as an opener and failed to deliver a good enough follow up and the conversation wet dry. Ah well.

Back downstairs and we open a mixed 3 set and find out they're internationals and don't speak English well. Wasn't too much of a problem once I convinced them I wasn't trying to sell them anything. Spent some time here working on rapport again.

Off to the harbour and hit a bar there. Was a tad quiet and most of the good sets were dancing, not a big problem but neither Baza or I are interested in playing that game. We hang around the lounge area a bit and Baza opens a good 2 set, HB 8.5 and HB 9. Bazas opener is a pearled and was good for me to inject my opinions and get into the conversation. I phase shift with the HB 9 and continue with some other crap. I spin some DHV and get some good IOI's. Too much time on this, should have been able to go for a close but left it too long and they dipped out after a while.

About 20mins later I open a 2 set with the current music as a way to get in. Phase shifted better this time and just in time for Baza to make his enterance, this worked pretty well. Got onto keno escalation a lot earlier this time and it seemed to work. Went for an N-close and hit a brick wall. She's from another city and used that as an excuse. I either stuffed up else where or had to handle the situation better.

Called it quits and debriefed for the night.


Analysis:

We both noticed that we don't look at the dynamics of the situation enough, only the last set had us seated in the best positions to escalate keno properly. We need to think more about how to position ourselves best depending on the situation.

I still need to work dramatically on my keno and rapport building. I can show DHV well but I should infuse this with my other lacking areas.

Still fresh into the game so I have a long way to go.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 1:02 pm 
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The next day we went to the mall to work on a bit of day game. Baza and I decide that direct approach is more suitable here and good to work on. Baza starts with a nice two set and we get some good rapport. Sadly, they're on a time limit and are not from Sydney so we lose out. I then open a an HB 6 in a shop nearby and screw it completely. I compliment her dress and freeze up. Ah well, first attempt at direct approach and it's doomed from the moment I open my mouth.

Baza opens a single about 5 meters from her boyfriend and she sticks with him for a few minutes before moving on.

This was near the end of the day and we were both surprised how little talent was around. We call it quits and head home.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 1:08 pm 
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So those last two posts were a few weeks ago and there has been little going on since. Iv been busy with uni and have only had about a dozen opens since. Nothing major learnt, just keeping my interest going.

Last Saturday I spent the night at home playing text game. I have always had a natural flair for text game and this night I was on fire. 2 different girls I have known for a while and a third I met at uni recently in some of my classes. The two iv known for a while I got chest pics out of and the one from uni I got her to offer to take me on a date.

This gets me thinking that if I can usually respond correctly while in the text game and knowing I have 5 mins odd to come up with the appropriate response then the only things I need to do are: increase the speed I find said response and make sure it's the first thing I think of. And improve body language. These two are the only difference I see in my text game abilities and field gaming.


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Thursday I had a party at uni and had the chick I was text gaming there. I had to see a fair bit of her leading up to the party but once it started I ignored her for a few hours. I finally made my way over and talked to her for a bit. Working over the keno and running a bit cocky funny. She digs this. Later on she wants to get out of her party get up and I let her leave her stuff in my car. I go for the k-close while we are away from the party and I get resistance. I pretend this didn't happen for now but talk to her about it on the way back to the party. Big stuff up, I know there was nothing to gain from doing that but I'm slipping back into my AFC self.

We hang out a bit through the rest of the party until everyone splits then we walk together to a mates place not far away. I play the cocky funny a bit more and work on keno (it was a touch cold so that made it perfect). She sleeps on the lounge and me the floor then I give her a lift to the station in the morning and pay her out about owing me a date.

I work on text game a bit over the next few days and get some crap this arvo about only wanting to be friends and the date has to be just as friends. I bend the conversation so I'm not talking about being friends but don't change the topic.

I'm unsure about what the hell is going on here but I'm fairly sure I went too AFC and stuffed it. Ah well, Baza helped bring me back to my new reality on Saturday


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 1:28 pm 
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So last night Baza and I went to a club with some Irish mates and found it was shockingly dead of anything worthy to approach.

I made a bid for a 4 set in the smoking area not long after entering and found some wanker after about 20 seconds came busting in pissed off his chops, trying to bum a smoke. I lost my game and the set after I diffused him. Silly move, I should have ignored him completely and continued with the set.

The only other open we could get into after that was a two set of pretty Asian girls near the end of the night. I used one of my openers on them and transitioned in time for Baza to come help out. The girl I was taking to kept calling my out as a PUA and I kept diffusing it with cocky funny, it seemed to work I. Conversation but the fact she brought it up 4 or so times made me think I was doing something dramatically wrong. Other then that, I found rapport building was good, keno I still struggled on. I'm not finding that as natural as I thought I would. Probably because the rest of my life doesn't involve too much keno.

As much as there was not much game on this night it was good to see Baza again and get some night game in. I have been run off my feet with the rest of my life in the last few weeks and it reminds me how much I wish to improve.


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So yesterday I went on a day 2 with the girl I K-closed at the uni party in my first post of this thread. After my text gaming for the last few weeks it was pretty much in the bag but I'm not one to count my chickens before they hatch.

After about 20 mins from meeting up she suggested going back to my place and so we did. She was only thinking one thing so I didn't play too hard and the F-close soon followed.

But this post is more about what happens during and after. In my AFC days I was always about old school romanticism and making the girl happy. This day I was already getting it and I didn't care about the outcome of the situation. So I told her to do this, she does it without hesitation. I told her to do that, again no hesitation. I told her to start doing this and she resisted. I rolled over and grabbed my iPad and started facebooking. She had a sook and payed there waiting for me to come back and I continued to play with my iPad and laughed a few times (at barely even amusing things).

After about 10 minutes she started to come to me and then asked me to continue what I was doing with her. I told her it was her fault and if she wants to continue she has to do what I had told her I wanted to do and she had to get my little man up again. She went off and spoked and I continued on the iPad. It took about 5 minutes for her to come around this time and she did what I wanted.

So this wasn't so hard! We continue and after a while she disagrees with what I wanted to do. So I stopped and went for a shower and said she can join me. She didn't come and join me so I had it on my own and went back to the bedroom to put my clothes on. When she saw me picking up my briefs she started sooking and game over to use her mouth again. After she did what I wanted I said I'm going for another shower and she joined me this time and we continued in there.

After all this I took her to the RSL club she wanted to go to and went to the buffet. After we were told about the public holiday rates I said I wasn't paying and walked away. She followed and asked where we were going. I said we can just stop at maccas and she started dragging me back and said she will pay for it. So she bought me dinner.


First off, I want to ask, as much as this seemed to work and the freeze outs seemed to always get my way, was using it like that in the club the same and still acceptable to do? It just felt unnatural from my normal behaviour but I know a few aspects of the game now will do so.


Also, my busy life is slowing my ability to learn this practice, not a huge concern, all good things take time. But I feel I should try and set goals to at least keep me in the game and being productive. So, I am going to set myself to make 2 approaches a day for the next fortnight. After this I will increase it to 5 per day. After each approach I will figure out what I need to do to improve, and work on the approach then transition initially and move along the line to be better from the start to close.

Yes, I can hear you all thinking "wow 2 approaches is conservative". And I agree, yes it is. But I will tell you why: I have read a few posts here and I can see there is three types of people starting in the game. There are those who become mPUA, those who are interested after first exposure and lose interest as they either hit snags or don't get enough field time and then there are those who go to hard and learn the wrong thing or end up getting bored or lose their life balance over this society.

I want to be great, but I want to continue with the life I have worked so hard over the last 6 years to achieve. I hope some people are supportive of this and can help me with my goals, short term and long


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