This is an event that happened 2 years ago.

I was with my cousin in a nightclub , very high-glamour and although I see myself as very good with women , this guy I think was the greatest I have ever witnessed.

It was about 12.30 am when I see this tall guy , 6'2" , slim , black hair with a little pony tail , a little stubble and with a little smug grin on his face.

In all those years spent in nightclubs , not only you develop eyes for DTF ,but also for players and he was one.

What this guy did was simple.

He went to a blond 10 and what he did was memorable and amazingly simple ... simpler than my method.

He went to her said something to his ear and her reaction was exactly the same as I expected "shock and then submission".

When women express shock through intense eye contact that is due to a SEXUAL STATEMENT , which I am 100% he said.

He said it without touching her while smoking a cigarette and she looked at him for a few seconds then she looked down.

After delivering his line he just stood there on front of her with a grin on his face and she stood there also , but not dancing.

He tried to get eye contact with her , but she would only briefly hold it.

After a few minutes of complete silence and him practically staying there looking at her , she goes to the other side of the bar.

And guess what he did , he followed her .

At one point she was facing the bar and he was standing behind her with the same grin on his face.

This guy was practically stalking her , yet she didn't say anything and she couldn't say anything because he wasn't doing anything , he wasn't touching her.

At one point , I would say after 10 - 15 minutes of just stalking her , he reaches over her shoulder and says something else again without touching her.

What happened after that ?

Well she turned to face him and I'm pretty sure she asked him something because his response was to "YES".

After he said YES , they both left the place.

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Everyone has his style.

Thinking in retrospect "KINO ESCALATION" is something that is far overrated in this community.

I good number of my pulls happened in minutes and without the need to even touch her.

If I remember correctly sometimes the first time I actually touched them was when we got to their place.

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KINO ESCALATION" is something that is far overrated in this community.




wowow! this post make your video post look like the post of the century, damm dude, what are you talking about????? this matches my experiences:


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It came out wrong.

I was talking about "MAKING HER HORNY".

Back when I first started I had times when I had women moan with pleasure , yet I could not bring them home , more than that at some point they would just leave.

My intended statement was : " If a woman made the decision to go out and get laid , meeting and making this woman horny in order to take her home with you is pointless"

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There is no such thing as "game".

My success is based on exploiting a niche which to some newbies may seem "godlike" , but the reality is that if were to get rid of my target selection skills the rejections and flaking would be just as high as any average man.

All the threesome I had happened because I find the "type" of women that would go for such a thing and it happened.

This is why some think about pick-up as being a numbers game

If you blindly ask women for sex you will get rejected a lot and after that you come to post that the method is bullshit.


IF SHE ISN'T THERE TO GET FUCKED YOU WON'T FUCK HER THAT NIGHT NO MATTER HOW MUCH 'GAME' YOU HAVE OR HOW MUCH HORNY YOU GET HER.

This is the truth.

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NOTE* : I AM TALKING ABOUT ONS.

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Something I forgot to mention.

Even if she is DTF , you will still encounter resistance.

It's like a secret code between players and DTF women.

Resistance is just a test.

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Hmm I was gonna say what about the girls you talked to for a while who were on the fence then you were able to convert them for ONS, but maybe they had the intention to fuck from the beginning, so I don't know.

I think if a girl is sexually active, even if she goes out one day with friends with no intention of sex, a pua with game might change that. I believe this happens often, but if you just want to get laid, better to screen for DTF bitches.

Keep the ideas coming Stelar.

Some of us are learning. And yes I agree. You don't even need to touch a girl before sex and get her to your place. I had this experience with a girl (day game) whom I never kinoed ask me to sleepover my place.

I also had this limiting belief before that DTF girls are promiscuous and may probably have all kinds of STD. But now I understand. Some go to a night club and are DTF for that particular night only but are not DTF for the rest of the year. Meaning, she has a very slim chance of catching any STD. I've wasted an opportunity once when a girl kinoed me sexually on the dance floor and hinted on sleeping over my place.

These ideas of yours and others are revelations or at best revolutionary. Grab the opportunity when it presents itself. You Stelar are helping us understand and see what these opportunities are.

Keep up the good work.

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stelar, you say that if she isnt there to get fucked, then you wont fuck her. are you basically saying that in any ONS that the girl comes to the club to pretty much choose the guy she wants?
surely there are girls that go out just for the sake of going out with their girly friends to dress up and whatever. yet you can still pull these girls? personally this has happened when ive been running game on this girl and her friends helped me get laid! they wanted to leave but said for me to come so it was easy as pie. pretty sure that girl didnt go out with the intention of being fucked. she repeatedly said 'oh my god i cant believe this! you shouldnt be here' bla bla..

Oh noes!!!! She didn't?!?!

Come on dude, don't be so plain stupid. Girls lie from the very first second about their sexuality. They have to lie simply because society demands them to. The girl you mention makes it totally rediculously funny.


Oh to make it clear to you: she lied and wanted to fuck.

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im not stupid bro. i know she wanted to get fucked.. hence why i did fuck her.
what im saying is surely there are some girls that dont go out wanting to fuck and end up meeting a guy and changing their mind

nice post.

however, how does this on its own show that guy was "the greatest natural"??

Its no different from what many guys, and even you yourself do in a club.

This is nothing different from how to get DTF women.

The key here was:

1. seeing the woman was DTF

2. knowing there was mutual attraction

3. moving in being direct

4. staying in the vicinity and being comfortable to enhance the buying temperature and comfort

5. re-opening to close the deal

this is simple stuff...the key here is CONFIDENCE AND BALLS. You must have the CONFIDENCE AND THE BALLS to do it. This can come through practise, but also talking highly of yourself and keeping a positive mind

spice out

I love when this happens. When it's in the bag and nothing needs to be said. It's an unspoken communication, a vibe between you and the girl. Everything just transitions nicely.

@Stelar

No more posts bro. After saying "Kino is over rated" you are a keyboard jockey. Especially with all these threads at once. Yeah... keyboard jockey.

You calling someone a KJ.... oh the irony.

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