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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 9:51 pm 
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Hi guys! I'm quite new to game, been doing a lot of reading and therefore I have an overall understanding of the basis of why the game works and I've started approaching.
I’ve been doing about three or four a night and been going out once or twice a week for a couple of months. I'm now not terrified of opening anymore and I just get the usual amount of approach anxiety.

Now I'm not afraid of the interaction but annoyed I can't seem to hit a hook point. I've just been doing really indirect closed off openers (because I'm new I wanted to start small and get over my fear) such as 'Do you have the time?' leading to 'when does this place close' then a situational opener if I can think of one. The problem is these openers have done their job and I need new ones that can lead into a conversation. I still haven't built up the confidence to try any really ballsy openers (I wouldn't be able to pull them off yet), just a couple that will require the girl to give more than a one word answer minimum. Any advice will help :D

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Callum


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 12:12 pm 
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Hey,
I am pretty much as new a PUA as you are, but i've gotten over Approach Anxiety pretty fast, I actually did the exact opposite of what you did,I just went on with solid opinion openers and if the delivery is good enough, they will very likely answer and engage in a conversation.

Try not to use light openers that might be closed with a short answer, asking about the time is something everybody does, so that takes out anything special she might see in you.
Use opinion openers that they cannot ignore, it'll work if it's a topic that girls are keen on, like cheating on partners, jealousy, etc...

Here are some of the openers that I've used successfully multiple times :
BO.TI:"Hey guys, i need a female opinion on something and i was wondering if you could help me with it"
HBs:"Yeah sure okay"
BO.TI:"So this friend who's a student has a long distance relationship with his girlfriend and she recently decided to come study in (insert your location here), the problem is my friend is not willing to give away his freedom, if you know what i mean"
HBs:"haha, yeah, yeah.."
BO.TI:"So my question is, should he help her sign up for his uni and accept his fate or should he recommend another uni and keep his current lifestyle"
Usually at this point the girl(s) would have already figured out the situation, you can then use their answer to bust them and/or ask them what they would do in the same situation.

Another one is : guy meets girl the night before her flight, she'll be coming back in a month,guy really likes her and has the option of going to visit her, thing is guy really wants to have some sort of casual relationship with her, but nothing serious, so what should he do in order for her not to think it's too serious. Go join her or wait until she comes back.

Now here you might notice the stories are a bit long, what i think is that the more details you fit into the story the more hooked the girls will get, and the longer and more elaborate their answers will be, obviously on the one condition that delivery is good (energy, speech speed, believability...). So you can imagine all sorts of scenarios, make them into stories and use them as openers.

Good luck
BO.TI


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 3:21 pm 
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Thanks for the response, appreciate it! :)

I wasn't sure if I could get away with those openers the reason being in a loud club I think you would have to be very clear and precise, I will revise them today and have a shot :)

I've been approaching at the bar in the club (mostly because it was easiest, you have a garunteed amount of time with her to open until at the least she has bought her drink) of course approaching there is the easier but unless you hook quickly then there is no transition. if you saw a girl you would want to open would you walk straight up to her or get yourself in proximity with her first? Rather than just walking straight up to a girl, got any places in a club to be in for making approching potential girls easier? I was thinking smoking area/seats. dancefloor would be difficult, especially if the club is very busy that night


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 9:17 pm 
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You've completed the first stage of the process. Now move on to the next.

I use exclusively situational openers. I have no scripted openers to use. An example, "What are you drinking? Looks fruity." [Mango whatever] "Are people going to assume I'm gay if I order one? Can I try yours first?"
Right away you've become friends.

Often, if I have nothing else to say, these openers are direct and sexual, because that's the reason I'm talking to her. A recent one happened when I saw two hot girls on the lower floor of a mall. I mentioned them to my wing, he told me to go. I ran down the stairs with no idea of what I was going to do, I said this:
"Hi! I saw you guys from up there, and thought you were cute and wanted to talk to you. Is that creepy or kind of sweet?"

They said it was both, but it didn't matter what they said. I said ok and changed the subject to the ice cream in her hand. Nothing came of the set, I got blown out pretty fast, but those are the most fun experiences.

Get over your fear and get your mouth moving spontaneously, it's the only way to get better.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 6:17 am 
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Sounds like great advice from experience :) I need to (and have now started) to see game in the long term rather than the short. I was getting annoyed at myself for not improving at the rate I was hoping for. I used a situational opener tonight and the set opened up much more easily and I managed to get a really good conversation out of it. From then on things became much easier. both you and the other members advice is awesome as I needed a bit of guidance as to what to do next. I definately need to get better at thinking on my feet :)


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