hi, i'm new to pua, but for you guys has it really worked well and elevated the level of girls you're getting with? cuz i know its not a magic fix but i want to be reassured that through determination i will get really good. i'd appreciate some genuine answers. thanks

This forum, much like the dozens of other forums dedicated to pickup, is popular for a reason. Do you really think we all flock to these boards because it doesn't work?

With PUA skills, it takes lesser time and effort to get the girl/s. You'll also be spared of thinking why did she do that or why didn't she do that? You'll also gain a lot more female friends who are comfortable touching you in all parts of your body.

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Approach. Open. Escalate. Isolate

Here are my two essential rules on texting that will save you tons of time and money:

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ok, and what would you say is the best way to learn these skills? where to start?

Start with the Newbie Mission. Take it one step at a time.

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Approach. Open. Escalate. Isolate

Here are my two essential rules on texting that will save you tons of time and money:

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If I were you I would focus on building a lifestyle. My big change came when I started as a sportscoach. It was obliged to be social and as thus girls showed interest I grew confidence and self-worth.

All you need is balls to approach. Eventually you'll get a girl. But that's a bit of a numbers game where you may only sleep with 1 out of 20 girls. What this community is for is to show you it's not hard to approach a girl, there's nothing to be scared of except fear itself and this forum will give you the boost and confidence you need to do it. Use this community to know how you should act, you'll come across it all in due course. Everything else like routines, push and pull, indirect and direct openers (the list is really long) is all of a load bollocks.

Do yourself a favour, stick around this forum. Use it as a kick up the arse to get there and go straight for natural game. Forget looking for openers etc, most openers you'll come across will have you talking about your great-grandmothers gold fish or something. You can pay attention to some openers, but the best way is observational one. You will find some hilarious openers on this forum, and rarely I do use some material you'll find in the openers board purely because some are geniously funny.

Go natural game. Don't worry about going direct or indirect, do what ever you feels fits the moment. Don't make a thread about how something went bad with just 1 girl you really liked. Some girls just aren't interested and there's nothing you can do to fix that regardless of how you act. Date didn't work? Move on. Only if something keeps going wrong then get a second opinion on here.

Although contrary to what I've just said, read Vin DiCarlo's The Attraction Code. It's an insight as to how you should view women and how they view you.

Once you realise you have to take control of the situation, stay self-assured and not needy you will find yourself asking less and less questions and giving people the same advice as I'm giving you.

This is what I've recently learnt. People will disagree, but this is MY game, this is MY outlook. People have different game. A lot of people will tell you use canned lines before natural game, my first ever girl I approached it was completely natural and ended in a shag.

For me the concept of picking up has really clicked, but it's all about doing it rather than reading on it. So get a good base then just do it.

You're not inducing a permanent change, nor do you need to work for years with determination to see results. If I recall correctly, the participants in "The Pick up Artist Show" by Mystery were titled "Mastery PUAs" within a few weeks time. Given their learning curves were far more compressed, my point is that you WILL see results and changes after applying the things you learn.

For instance, you will learn "always keep open, relaxed, and confident body language." It might take a while to internalize this, but you can quickly start changing your bad posture and catching yourself when you're acting timid. And right then, you'll begin to notice the subtle changes in social dynamics around you.

As for if it works, that's an understatement. You'll feel like Neo after he was unplugged.

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Yes. The promise of something working is often more powerful than whether it actually works.

u should do motivational speaking

most of the stuff is hit or miss, depending on how it bodes with your personal style

a lot of the techniques are pure garbage, others, a few that is are actually helpful

if a girl resists you don't assume she's necssarily interested, she may genuinely not be interested in u, know how to cut your losses and simply move onto the next (reload) rather than come off as a creepo/stalker and have her get the police involved

there is no magic bullet, it's about becoming a better man, a better person - in short, everything PUA is about SHOULD be self-confidence. Work on yourself and others will naturally be drawn to you.


A LOT of pickup is evidence of the Rich Get Richer hypothesis. That is, the more women you 'accumulate', the more confidant you'll feel around women in general, and in turn, the more women you'll attract. It really is THAT simple, once you learn how to not let your approach anxiety immobilize you. In that sense, you WILL be like Neo walking between worlds.

This is simply not true.

Granted, inner game is the main part of PU but far from the only part.

There are techniques and routines that will get you started and give you ideas about how PU works. They demonstrate different parts of social interaction that you are gonna need to learn later on.

The most important thing is that you find a method that works for you, one that deals with your weaknesses while they let you use your strengths.

PU works, no doubt about it. People wouldnt keep writing on these forums and discuss techniques if it didnt work.

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I'm not trying to be a dick Ezo, but you're being a Pick Up Snob in my opinion.

bbardot: you just reminded me about porn

Despite what people may tell you, this isn't something you can just work on for a couple days and then become a master. You have to realize that no matter what, you are going to get rejected. If there was truly a rejection-free method, that book would sell for $300,000 and it'd be an amazing deal.

Understand that not all of pickup may work for you. I personally don't like using canned openers. It doesn't mean they don't work for other people. Overall, I think PUA is a great way to go, but some of it may be a little out there.

I just came across this and thought i'd offer my experience to you as I am still relatively new myself. As I've come across this the one thing I've learned from my more experienced friends is that PUA is about taking those great qualities in yourself and expanding on them.
Very few disagree I've found that mystery's is a great skeleton upon which to build. Yet you have to be careful as I have learned about focusing on the material to much as it can create incongruence with yourself to the world which they will notice. I am naturally a very reserved guy who while being an ass often still keeps a very private life from those around me. It is just how I am. Yet if I try and go out and be this energetic "bro" type cock blocking, negging, alpha male it is just going to not work for me.
I began studying game and testing methods and ideas back in october of last year. I entered the field officially in January, and have had successes. A lot of failures. But the one thing that has been consistent is my desire for learning new things, going out, hitting up those new clubs or bars, and different events has increased tenfold. I went from maybe 60 contacts in my phone to 157 since january. I've met a lot of people, made some new friends, a few who are fwb's.
It's a process that is never ending and you will always be changing your approaches. There's this hipster bar I keep going to that I FAIL in every time. Without a doubt I know it's going to happen. Yet I keep trying because I'm not afraid anymore to be rejected by approaching. It keeps me on my toes.
There's a silver lining to everything. Hey you might even get beat down by some chicks boyfriend who doesn't like you talking to her, but the next chick you approach will go "where did you get those scars" and you can say "from eating pussy" (hope you get the reference). It is our experiences that give us those great stories to tell to a crowd that draws them in. They'll be like "wow this guy knows how to live" or "he's got balls" etc. But you have to do for there to be.
I've gone on for quite sometime but I'll leave with this final note. For me working on myself, growing, figuring out who I am has lead me to situations I never thought would happen. The method works but you have to make it your own for it to REALLY work. Ask questions on here, the guys can be rough. Some might fuck with ya a bit, but thats part of being a rook. Good luck and remember, who you are is perfect but a tweak every now and then couldn't hurt. We're only human.

pua stuff really does work but you use what u are most comfortable with try reading the game and the art of seduction , but u got to work on ursellf and gain confidence