Exactly!

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Just a note to all the non believers lol

This post was simply and attempt to get people to make a decision in they're life and see how life creates other opportunities when you do so. (Being that masturbation is something every guy goes through, I figured I'd get the most responses and views with this topic)

For example when I made this decision to give this homeless guy my last 10 bucks, on my way home I found a scratch and win lottery ticket and won 50 bucks.. Now, some people will believe thats a coincidence but I believe life created that opportunity because I was willing to make a sacrifice.

Now if your getting laid and masturbating that is good for YOU, but for the guys that aren't getting laid its just something to give a try and see if they have a change of luck.. When you make a decision like " I'm only going to ejaculate if there is an actual woman involved" I believe life will create that window of opportunity for you.

Thats my belief, i'm not expecting everyone to agree on it.. Hell the worlds been arguing over which religion is not true for thousands of year.

And skills, Get your facts straight before talk about why I can't get on the chat because the reason you stated was completely inaccurate... How old are you again? Oh okay

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Ok, now that you explained it like this, this is good! the way you explained it before was bad, about you getting kicked out of the chat, that is what i heard, about my age irrelevant, older than you... I do agree with what you stated above! See is ok to disagree without insulting, you started with the insults... So if is in the context of getting motivated to get laid, yes, it is good and i totally agree kind of(for some people the ones in a comfort zone not getting action), also try not to masturbate right before you go sarging even if you are getting laid, or do not have sex before sarging, minimum 3 to 5 hours grace period.

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Havent done it since i joined this forum.
Not necessarily to help my game, but it just seems boring. I think it would be fair to say masturbation is a crutch. It's a release valve for when you can't have someone release your valve lol.
But yeah, i think in the it helps/doesnt help camp, its a question of personal experience. You can't analyse something quantatively if it is a qualitatative experience... i.e. if i feel more confident if i don't do it, then that's just a thing that happens and no one else can change that... however physiologically, does something happen to make men more listless? Who knows, quite possibly, i do feel like that afterwards, but hey that could be because i could have been a lot more productive in the day than doing that

Heres an article for anyone interested http://dherbs.com/articles/masturbation-164.html

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Well i think fuze was right after all here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zif0_60b3WU

And here is my lay report i kept getting soft:

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So fuze my apologies i will send you the reputation points that i took of..

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I will give it a try for sure, seems interesting.

The only question is...

If you dont masturbate for a long period of time and then you lay down with a girl, you dont put yourself at risk of premmature ejaculating? your endurance is not going to be weaker than if you did masturbate a 2-3 times on a week?

hahaha it takes an old shrimpy guy for you to believe.

I'm always right

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I think this is completely true. A few weeks ago I struggled to perform with a woman (I posted about it when it happened). I had been watching porn almost every night for the last year and a half before that happened (including the night before my first time with her). Immediately gave porn up when I struggled to perform.

One week off I still struggled a bit but got through it. Last time I was with her (this past weekend) I had no problems after about 3 weeks of no porn whatsoever. I'm off it forever. I can see what they are saying about reprogramming your brain. I really believe that excess porn is not a good thing.

Hey homey. I'll expand on my response in the other porn thread.


I try not to jerk off or watch porn. Masturbation kills your sex drive. If you're currently jerking off a lot, STOP and see how motivated you become to go out and get girls within a week. REAL FRICKIN' MOTIVATED.

Second, porn gives you fucked up ideas of lovemaking, sex and women. This might sound crazy to some of you, but getting used to viewing chicks as pieces of meat is actually detrimental to your game and inner well-being. Another reason to stop.

Lastly, a bit of pent-up sexual energy is attractive to women as you noticed. If you want to see what I mean, watch some "humane" porn (no weird DP, double anal, gangbang shit) 10-15 minutes before you go out to meet women. It makes your interactions way more sexually charged, it's good stuff.

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Yeah, I found this out ages ago. It does have a negative effect on me. Giving up masturbating isn't really an option but I've learned to time it so that I have a few days to recover before I need to be on my A game again. I doubt if there are actually chemicals released, if so then how's it any different than sex? It's probably just all the shame and guilt that all of us in the western world are fucked up with from an early age!

Don't you feel a lot different after you are done shwacking than you do after you are done having sex? There is an obvious difference in confidence levels...

When you have sex you bring in chemicals from the female vagina that balance out the lose of you life energy.. Your semen hold your essence of life, when you just spat that in napkins and socks you are telling yourself that your life force is worth that.. It a lot deeper than people may think.

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When I go without masturbating I seem to be a lot more social and a lot more dominant in my social interactions.

I still don't usually pull but I am an afc to the max. I do enjoy myself a lot more though.

I am also a whole lot hornier and want to whack it off lol but I guess no pain = no gain



whether there is a medical explanation or if its all in my mind I don't know.


I do know when you do finally jack off it is the most amazing orgasm

Alright, when i don't masturbate for 3+ days i feel like i have alot more energy. I can lift around 15-20% more than when i masturbate regularly and i can push myself alot closer to my limit. Im also more social and have more drive. Escalating is alot more fluid and getting laid is alot easier/natural.

I know some of you guys are gonna be like oh it's a placebo affect or w/e but if it works for me then i see no reason why i should go back to how i was beforehand.

lol, you can overreact dude... Yes you might have more energy but lifting 20% more ? Come on, if that's true ill stop mastrubating alltogether.. Its not like you can deadlift 200kg and when you dont mastrubate for 3 days you deadlift 240kg that's just impossible