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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 1:00 pm 
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ive come on here before about situations with girls and you guys all to have seem to given me great advice, thanks for that.

so im going to make this as simple as possible.
dont bash me too hard. i was "gaming" this girl before i got into pick up, and i would sweat when any girl even gave me as little as eye contact.

so 6 months ago, i notice a red head in the year above, lets call her red.
the way she looked at me, the way i looked at her, it was on. i can really tell she likes me alot.
so, that same night i saw her in school, she came up as afriend suggestion on facebook. so i decided to poke her.
she poked back.
"is this the girl from graphics?"
"hey yeahh :)"
"i saw you checking me out! i dont bite you know :p what are you all about?"


5 long months later, nothing has been exchanged. when she sees me, she looks at the ground. me too. tbh, im pretrified of her. and i dont know why. im trying to avoid her when my ego constantly pulls me back. so much so i could rather approach a woman twice my age and twice as beautiful than approach red.

my question is to you...what do i do..she's gorgeous, constantly with guys although their as much as a sexual threat as a hamster
i rarely see her because she's in the year above
when i do, i get so nervous its unreal!

I have her facebook account, although not added. mabey i could use that somehow. the thought of me approaching her seems impossible.

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she looks at the ground.
This point right here is KEY, she has STRONG attraction to you, and wants you to do something about it!

And Bro, if you don't I'm going to find her, and I am going to! :twisted:
(or someone like me LMAO!)

Hope you get what I'm saying here, she already wants you, it does not mater what you say, just fucking say something!

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Don't put her on a pedestal. Sarge different girls, return to her when your confidence has improved (which it certainly will).


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well im sure you're tired of hearing this shit, don't game specific girls game all girls, and game them the same way

what to do to this specific girl?

talk to her, ask her out, try to have sex with her (and don't use facebook, do it in person, facebook is hurting your confidence and you won't improve)

the thought of approaching her seems impossible because you have approach anxiety, you have to handle that problem, or it won't get better, after that you have to handle your fear of rejection, or it won't get better

if no compliance, onto the next one


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Personally, I'd make a direct move. It's what you want to do and what you're scared to do. I see you trying to rationalize your fear, you sly dog ;). You don't fool me - and you're not fooling yourself.

After I broke up with my gf, I started seeing this beautiful girl. She was gorgeous, VERY smart and I was too scared to do anything (give me a break - I was coming out of a 2-year relationship). We would talk platonically - in those first post-breakup months, I was just happy to get any female attention.

Eventually I started pursuing other women regularly and forgot about this chick. But last week, I decided to clear my phonebook by getting rejected or seducing every girl I'm "buddies" with.

To make a long story short, we met up, had tea and talked. When I made my direct move - told her I liked her and wanted to go on a date - I felt like I might have a heart attack. Everything inside me was screaming, "No! Don't do it! She's too good for you!"

So I understand how hard it is to make a move on girls you've conditioned yourself to stall with - even when you're good with strangers.

But at the end of the day, you just gotta man up and do it. Better to regret something you did than something you didn't do. Follow your heart.

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thanks for replying

the thing is, i really dont know what to say
i can approach her and i would approach her, if she was by herself or with someone i know. if she's with her guy friends which she always is i freeze up and seem to hesitate and do nothing.

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thanks for replying

the thing is, i really dont know what to say
i can approach her and i would approach her, if she was by herself or with someone i know. if she's with her guy friends which she always is i freeze up and seem to hesitate and do nothing.
Option #1
If she's always with her guy friends, facebook message her. Many people would advise against this, but I don't feel it makes a huge difference. Just be direct and honest - I like you; you're always with your guy friends so I haven't found a good time to tell you; let's go for a walk/talk in school/go on a date (then describe the date). Judging by what you said, she'll say "Yes."

Option #2
You could engage them as a group. I don't know what PUA philosophy you personally subscribe to, but your skills would have to be better for this. You're younger so these older boys might try to tool you and you have to be prepared for that. Also, it's harder for HER to express herself with other people around.

I prefer option 1 if you can't find an opportunity to roll up when she's alone.

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if she's with her guy friends which she always is i freeze up and seem to hesitate and do nothing.
Walk up, take her by her little hand, excuse yourself, lead her out of the "pack" and ask her to go get some Ice tea!

What is the worst that could happen?

In the meantime chat up some other girls!

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thanks for replying

the thing is, i really dont know what to say
i can approach her and i would approach her, if she was by herself or with someone i know. if she's with her guy friends which she always is i freeze up and seem to hesitate and do nothing.
don't worry about what to say, just approach and open your mouth, break the ice, you are in highschool and can re-approach every day if you want

if you have to just approach and say hey whats up guys then ask them a question and get out, that's fine, chances are it will go better then you thought, and maybe you can be a bit more bold and brave the next day

work on holding eye contact with girls in your hallways and at malls, and public places until you can hold eye contact with strangers and not break it, unless saying hi

after you can hold eye contact with strangers spend a day or two just saying, good mourning, or good afternoon, or good evening, to strangers, then nodding your head and moving on without talking

after that you can go out and try to start conversations with random strangers

after that, you can work on spitting your intent out

after that you want work on hitting on girls, spitting the intent out and getting their phone number

then same thing, but shamelessly comfortably hitting on them, and following up on the numbers and working towards sex at your house

really you just have to take it day by day, you will be at a certain point with your confidence, what ever point that is, you have to push yourself to points you feel uncomfortable with, it is not about if you succeed or fail, just drop the idea of sleeping with girls at this point (the idea of it working or not, still try to sleep with girls), make your goal to be a huge pimp by the time you are 23, go talk to girls in general, if you have a specific girl in mind you want, try to talk to her, but don't place any emphasis on getting her, process of meeting women and trying to get good at having sex with them, not the outcome with one woman, if you stop working on the process in order to pursue one girl, great chance as a default you will get needy and fuck it up for yourself

when you approach this girl all you should focus on is breaking that ice, the sooner you realize that you can basically meet the whole school and nothing bad will happen to you (besides you become more popular and familiar with alot of people), the sooner you can realize you can hit on girls and get rejected/get dates, and nothing bad will happen to you, the fear is irrational and most of us have it, you just have to break it down and face it little by little, and eventually it somewhat goes away you perceive it changes


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right, i inboxed her. we're both on easter brake and wont be seing each other for atleast a month so fuck that.

although i am still confused as to why she flaked on that previous inbox. wasnt i just being direct and funny? i could already tell the attraction was there before sending that.

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