Hey, I was wondering if anyone could help here. I've come from the whole shy/antisocial mindset growing up and and trying to work my way up to alphadom. I have been doing it for a few years now and I have a lot going for me so far- although I'm not wealthy, Im a commercial pilot and musician, I'm a published photographer and underwater videographer, I ride motorcycles and generally have a lot of the lifestyle/life purpose things developing.

I've read/listened to a lot of PUA programs by the greats so I'm pretty sound in the theory and have even done a live course where I was told my style/dress sense is great, body language good and have the potential to be great with women.

However, clearly there is some fundamental things lacking because I seem to be attracting only 5's and 6's- (to the extreme, ie offers of 3-somes etc) and yet very cute/beautiful women still elude me. I can't even seem to connect and be friends with those kind of groups of people- which I'd assume is a good starting point.

Has anyone been in this position or has any suggestions what I might need to concentrate on and develop to start connecting with 8-10's and their groups. Because right now, as I see them around in house parties or bars, their whole psyche seems to be on a different level to mine, hard to describe.

Thanks guys:)

How would you open a 5-6 set vs a 8-10 set?

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They call me the cat whisperer, cause I know exactly what the pussy needs.

Games the 5's and 6's until you can virtually make them wet from your presence alone.

You will be getting the experience in working withing a high level of self confidence. You will be learning what works on women ( 5-6-9-10 all the same)
Your own belief ( confidence) will rise, from abundance and practice, suddenly HB ratings are irrelevant, you will just see women as attractive or not, as conquests.

Once you see with blind eyes, the women will come to you.

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Seduce their mind and the rest will follow.

Well said Addict, well said! Especially when if you make a certain woman (or "type" of woman)a goddess and unobtainable in your own mind, you will get STUCK!

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They call me the cat whisperer, cause I know exactly what the pussy needs.

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They call me the cat whisperer, cause I know exactly what the pussy needs.

Heywood- 5-6's open usually with a quirky observation about them or the situation or "are you a "

8-10's is usually a case of internal ummm-ing and eeeer-ing which kind of answers my own question there, however, what makes 5-6 so easy is they tend to banter a lot more readily and ask questions where as 8+ are colder and I run out of things to noodle about. Thanks for the link too!

Addict- Thank you, that was very insightful and yes I still lack confidence and 8+'s often intimidate me. I don't usually go on about what I do in the field unless its a part of a relevant story but clearly I've been asking myself "I do all this, so whats wrong".


As usual it's all in the mind, so I suppose I just need to practice more? I've really identified and know that feeling of lack of confidence well, not just in gaming but in some every day situations. I know I have to free myself from it but I don't really know how.

It's all psycological, for some reason you put 8/9s on a pedestal as if they are somehow superior to us mere slobs!

If you look at the way you talk to women you'll notice that you are much much more comfortable and interesting and witty when taking to 5/6s. Because you're not scared of making a fool of yourself or being rejected.

So try to see past looks, everyone is basically the same. Most beautiful girls will have just as many quirks and insecurities as you're average farmyard girl, although they'll probably be less well founded. What you need to do is learn how to look past looks, one you mastered this you will be able to talk to all women, effortlessly.

CONFIDENCE!

ok, here is the thing man, you are attractive as you are attractive, a 2 will find you just as attractive as a 10, the difference only lies in how much attention they recieve, and what kind of attention,

this applies in relation to yourself as well, chances are you treat hotter girls differently then more ''average'' girls, it is clear in your post you believe they are different

they are pretty much the same the only common thing I notice that seperates really hot girls from unattractive to average girls is that the attractive girls have more options (this is important because there is a higher chance they are sexually unvailable), and they tend to not be as easily excitable as they are used to male attention, so you will tend to see less ioi's going all over the place, but this is a generalization and doesn't apply to all hotties

case en point, you don't have to game them any differently, all you have to do is believe in yourself and know she finds you attractive, just build compliance the same you would for any girl and don't worry about if she is validating you or not, the difference is all in your head,

it's just like lets say there is a hb6, and she has two different guys, one guy is a 9 the other guy is 5, lets say she likes the 9 but he is less impressed by her, doesn't really care if he sleeps with her, but still finds her attractive enough to sleep with, where as the 5 finds her attractive enough to sleep with but is more excited about trying to get that on the go since he is not used to as much female attention

both guys find the girl equally as attractive, just one guy acts differently because he gets less attention from the opposite sex, if you can get girls, you can get girls, the rest is all in your head