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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 11:56 pm 
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Just bumping this up to read it later, looks interesting.

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Good stuff wey! Me gusto mucho! :)


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Do you love women, and really listen to them? I understand the smile part, but what i am searching for is a fuck buddy or a girl that will understand my ways and come with me on a journey... But your words are rough and tough and seems like the words are pissed themselves ...so tell me please, do you care about them at all except sex ?
Good question.

It seems like this strategy can get you one night stands, and I believe your lay count.

But what if the goal is not to get lays? I'm looking for a girl who I connect with on a much deeper level, not only because I prefer emotional sex.

How can your strategy of sexual directness be applied to a man looking for a woman he connects with?

No it isn't a good question at all. You are looking 4 a girlfriend, not 2 be a PUA.

Oneist is bad 4 the soul. Most SUCCESSFUL PUA's have had this 'emotional connection' already & realized there is actually no such thing & EVERY girl gets boring.

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Do you love women, and really listen to them? I understand the smile part, but what i am searching for is a fuck buddy or a girl that will understand my ways and come with me on a journey... But your words are rough and tough and seems like the words are pissed themselves ...so tell me please, do you care about them at all except sex ?
Good question.

It seems like this strategy can get you one night stands, and I believe your lay count.

But what if the goal is not to get lays? I'm looking for a girl who I connect with on a much deeper level, not only because I prefer emotional sex.

How can your strategy of sexual directness be applied to a man looking for a woman he connects with?

No it isn't a good question at all. You are looking 4 a girlfriend, not 2 be a PUA.

Oneist is bad 4 the soul. Most SUCCESSFUL PUA's have had this 'emotional connection' already & realized there is actually no such thing & EVERY girl gets boring.

Kris
I see what you mean. Do you have emotional connection with people you live with? And with people that love you for what you are? Can those people be girls at the same time?
Now, what made you write this post? :)


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PUA does not require you to bang chicks left and right. Relationships aren't evil, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with wanting a healthy monogamous relationship. If you ever think that your worth as a man is defined by the number of women you sleep with, well life gets way harder than that and you'll get proven wrong pretty quickly.

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No it isn't a good question at all. You are looking 4 a girlfriend, not 2 be a PUA.

Oneist is bad 4 the soul. Most SUCCESSFUL PUA's have had this 'emotional connection' already & realized there is actually no such thing & EVERY girl gets boring.

Kris
I think you're wrong :)

I don't plan on being a PUA when I'm 30, I plan on being in a healthy, stable relationship.


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Souf you're an idiot. You can't call oneitis the same thing as an "emotional connection". You're a keyboard jockey. A lame. $50 says you never had a gf. $100 says you will realize that after reading this post and try to defend yourself that you're some sort of pua.

Anyways, let me explain.

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The "not smiling" thing is true, especially on approach. It keeps women's attention. However even if you don't want to be as direct as stelar, keeping a serious face is a good thing upon approach. However! It doesn't mean you have to remain serious. If you cannot be as direct as Stelar, you don't have to be. You can build rapport and eventually bring out a smile. But it has been documented many many times, that women are more attracted to men that are not smiling.

So save the smiles for mid conversation. Also if you have any online photo's of yourself, try to keep them serious. It's been proven that women are more attracted to serious photo's over smiling ones. Men on the other hand are attracted to smiling photo's.

On another note, You guys don't have to do exactly as Stelar does, what you need to do is understand the pyschology behind it and make your own style out of it.
I thought it was proven that women are more attracted to men that are smiling, especially in photos. When you smile, it usually forces the other person to smile and the muscles that are activated give signals to the brain that sends a positive reaction and emotions.

I can understand the concept of not smiling when listening to make her work for it more, or not smiling when being direct to express how serious you are and unphased by her reaction, but not smiling in general or in photos is very questionable.

Women, and people in general want to be surrounded by happy human beings. Smiling shows that you enjoy life and that you're a positive person. Not smiling says that you got issues and probably cause drama.

Maybe I am mixing up a neutral state with a negative one, but I'm trying to make sense of this and see if there's a definite answer. I'm wondering if instead you should show a confident face with a slight micro smile. Think of celebrities in movies when they flirt with hot women. I think Bond does it too. This is worth discussing cause there is a lot of opinion in this subject.


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Actually Sly_Wolf, I think the studied stated that women find men attractive when others are smiling at them, (I remember reading/hearing the same study you are talking about but it has been awhile since I've actually read it, so you might be right).

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Actually Sly_Wolf, I think the studied stated that women find men attractive when others are smiling at them, (I remember reading/hearing the same study you are talking about but it has been awhile since I've actually read it, so you might be right).
I think you might be talking about when a man is surrounded by peers or women and they are smiling at him but he has a normal face which shows that he's the one making others smile and happy which is an attrative alpha/leader quality.

There are studies that you should smile in photos in general and when meeting people it's usually good to smile. I'm reading the definite book of body language and smiling creates positive feelings in others, but it also displays submissiveness that shows you are not a threat.

This is why the topic is a bit controversial because there are probably different situations where you should smile or have a poker face.

For those who want to give the poker face a try then go ahead, but please don't make an angry face!! This much is absolute. It is negative and it will send signals to your brain that creates negative emotions. Remember you became a pua to be happy and take control of your emotions, not to succumb to them.

I wish I discovered the community when I was in high school. I acted like this tough, serious Euro cause I thought it would attract girls and be cool, but even though it might have turned a few heads, there was a much more negative experience from it. To be alpha, you should be relaxed, aloof and in control of yourself while unphased by others. It doesn't mean to be serious and not really enjoying life. Just a heads up in case someone is going through the same thing.


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I will jump into the no smiling bandwagon for me smiling=neediness... i like the smirk and the wink....

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I smile when I enter the club - or when making the first scan of the surroundings...

I don't smile when running game.

Style's methodology - smile like you ARE the fucking party when you enter... but show her you don't give a fuck.

Shit works, shit is simple. If it ain't broke - don't fix it.

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PUA does not require you to bang chicks left and right. Relationships aren't evil, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with wanting a healthy monogamous relationship. If you ever think that your worth as a man is defined by the number of women you sleep with, well life gets way harder than that and you'll get proven wrong pretty quickly.
I spent nearly 14 years married... divorced for 2 now - and been running hard the past 20 months...

I'm a commitment-phobe. Any woman wanting more than a few dates, and I get fucking nervous. It's a shell of a life, to be blatant... I don't recommend it if you're the lonely type...

Sad part is, I haven't met the chick I really give a shit about enough to not run game. I haven't met the chick where my mind isn't trying to figure out the best way to manipulate her to my design...

My barber, the lifeguard at the beach, checkout chick at the grocery store, post office lady, my dad's cancer doctor, My neighbor's daughter (She's 51, her daughter's 30....), one certain bank teller, coffee chick at Dunkin Donuts.... Each one is there in those roles due to my design to run game on them (or I am running game already on them).

Wow... confession over. Fuck.

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The "not smiling" thing is true, especially on approach. It keeps women's attention. However even if you don't want to be as direct as stelar, keeping a serious face is a good thing upon approach. However! It doesn't mean you have to remain serious. If you cannot be as direct as Stelar, you don't have to be. You can build rapport and eventually bring out a smile. But it has been documented many many times, that women are more attracted to men that are not smiling.

So save the smiles for mid conversation. Also if you have any online photo's of yourself, try to keep them serious. It's been proven that women are more attracted to serious photo's over smiling ones. Men on the other hand are attracted to smiling photo's.

On another note, You guys don't have to do exactly as Stelar does, what you need to do is understand the pyschology behind it and make your own style out of it.
I thought it was proven that women are more attracted to men that are smiling, especially in photos. When you smile, it usually forces the other person to smile and the muscles that are activated give signals to the brain that sends a positive reaction and emotions.

I can understand the concept of not smiling when listening to make her work for it more, or not smiling when being direct to express how serious you are and unphased by her reaction, but not smiling in general or in photos is very questionable.

Women, and people in general want to be surrounded by happy human beings. Smiling shows that you enjoy life and that you're a positive person. Not smiling says that you got issues and probably cause drama.

Maybe I am mixing up a neutral state with a negative one, but I'm trying to make sense of this and see if there's a definite answer. I'm wondering if instead you should show a confident face with a slight micro smile. Think of celebrities in movies when they flirt with hot women. I think Bond does it too. This is worth discussing cause there is a lot of opinion in this subject.

Smile to be social, serious to seduce.

I have read about this in a few different studies. The theory behind it is, when it comes to sex, it's genetically encoded in women to be submissive. A serious face triggers a sexual thought rather then a friendly thought. This is all based on approach or first appearance photo's, etc. Once the interaction begins there are way too many variables for this to have any substantial validity. That being said, it is almost entirely unconscious.

I am sure if you did a search engine, you would find a lot more about it. I read these articles randomly, over the years and to be honest, I could not quote the authors. However! I have always been the type to try out theories and see for myself. I immediately changed my online profile pictures and did notice a difference almost immediately. Since then all my online pics are a serious face. I also keep a very straight face when approaching a women. Humor is a big part of my game in building comfort and rapport, so it's hard to stay serious, but I always keep a straight face upon approach.

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I will jump into the no smiling bandwagon for me smiling=neediness... i like the smirk and the wink....
This.

You smile if something is amusing or funny. You don't run up smiling to a girl unless there's something particularly amusing about her, which in 99% of cases she doesn't.


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