Nah bro when she said that I said "yeah we should stop"..and kept going and she complied no problem whatsoever. After a while, we BOTH agreed to stop because several cop cars were passing by and we didn't want to get in trouble. I had 0 LMR and I actually told her that if I had my own appartment we would finish it there and she said yeah I would like that. It was just a matter of privacy. We werent in a dark alley, we were actually near a big ass street with people and cars passing by. Last Minute Resistance is when a girl is not sure about wanting to have sex with you and she's doubting her decision. That's not my case.

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I do not agree with you on that one. In my book, last minute resistant is when a girl is having doubt about having sex with you in a very specific situation. It can be about how you gamed her, about the situation, the place, the time, anything... It's still resistance.

In your situation, she gave you resistance and you agreed with her. You said you both wanted to stop, so how do you know if she would've give you anymore resistance if you actually wanted to fully seal the deal with her?

You got to understand that LMR is a really vague term and if the girl is giving you resistance, it doesn't mean that she won't sleep with her. Some girl I slept with were having LMR, saying they weren't sure if they wanted to sleep with me TONIGHT or the next time I see her. That's LMR, but it's not about me. It's about the timing. However, I slept with them on that same night, since it was not a huge case of resistance.

And if you really want to know... I usually do like you did, when I girl tell me we should stop, I totally agree with her but I keep going. Still, it's LMR.

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Just to let you know that while you guys were arguing about the glass of water...... I drank it!

Sincerely, the Opportunist

Date: 6 april 2012

Members: Valentyn, T_Rex, Froggy & Swinths

Location: Ball Room


NORMAL NIGHT?

Well I guess I can say my night was normal, however the field was really tough. Wow..I now see the big difference between several clubs that are filled with people who have much more value. These types of fields are dangerous..big sets with hot girls everywhere..one blow off and 5-6 girls get away from you. That can be spotted from any part of the club but you gain a lot of experience.

When I entered the club, I was not feeling good because lately I've been having these cramps in my stomach but I said to myself that I'm going at least go to help T_Rex and give him feedback on his sets. We get in and this place is jam packed. And when I say jam packed I really mean it..it was almost impossible to move through the crowd and the amount of hot girls was mindblowing. I'll be honest..it was MUCH more intimidating. I havent seen so many hot girls in one place in a long time.

I start off by giving demonstrations to T_Rex. My first set was this pretty good looking girl. I open and I feel like she's not interested so I asked her if her hair color is natural because it looked fake. She immediately started smiling and I grabed her hair a little bit trying to see if it was real. Things were going good..however..after 2 minutes maybe two girls and a guy just come right in front of me and puts their hands on her neck turning her away from me. I was instantly so blocked that I had nothing else to say lol..I tried saying something like: "Hey wow..I'm here you know??" But nah didn't work

I then approached this fucking h-o-t omfg girl you coud've seen her pink g-string damn soo hott! lol She was older than me but I went in for the skill. I told her she was looking bored and I wanted to say hi. She smiled..stayed for what? 20 seconds? I then got denied. She was with a group of 5-6 girls too. I approached other girls but man really hard.. I hook 90-95% usually. However, I was not capable of holding a girl's attention..their bitch shields were so up..so fucking bitchy calm down.

Froggy does an approach and I go wing him out..now my "target" was really into me. A lot actually..I was having IOI's every 3 seconds non stop. However, I was not attracted to her and I ejected after a while..

I then did again some other sets. It was much harder than usually man..I'll watch some Gambler videos on clubs who have more value and that are much tougher to game. I was kino escalating though, because I'm working a lot on this aspect I want to become an expert in getting physical and it's starting to be like a reflex I don't even think about it and that's good.

Anyway, this is how you gain skill..going in harder sets with hotter girls so I'm glad we changed a little bit the venue. Tomorrow we're going to a little bit more casual bar/club so I can't wait to see the difference! I'll write here the main differences and how girls act in a high valued club and a normal one. Props to T_Rex who was having a lot of trouble approaching but who pushed his limits and do 2 approaches. Keep going man!

Peace out guys!

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Date: 6 april 2012

MINI-GOAL


Man sometimes I have this instinct when I have a night where I don't close or dont do really well, I try to read new stuff..this is not good and I didn't did this for quite a bit because lately I was closing every time I was going out. Anyway, I need to write this down

Goal: Not read any new material for 3 weeks - until the 27th april

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Date: 7 april 2012

Members: Valentyn, T_Rex & Swinths

Location: Mckibins


KISS CLOSE + NUMBER CLOSE

Tonight I want to thank Swinths. He delivered to me a pretty good looking girl. So I'm in field with a lot of friends from college and the place just sucked balls. Targets were ugly and dressed like halloween..and I was disgusted to approach. I was shooting the shit when I received a text from my wing Swinths. He said that he's bringing 2 girls with him and one of them wants to meet someone tonight. I immediately respond that he needs to bring her to me so I can close the deal and he comes a little bit late..like 2 AM.

I see the girl and I'm pretty surprised she was having something really sexy about her..her portuguese accent and the way she talked. So I start to game her and I'm near T_Rex. She's in front of me and things are going well, I'm starting to build some sexual escalation when her friend comes in and starts talking to me. I wisper to T_Rex: "wing me!" However, at the same time I said that, Swinths realized that I needed help and dragged her friend away. T_Rex than started engaging my target.. In my head I go...what the hell is happening? I thought he was going to stop after like 30 seconds..but now he's entirely having a conversation with her and I'm actually locked out. I couldn't believe it and I didn't understand it..after 2 minutes I got up and leaved a little bit mad so I sat somewhere near them talking to some friends. After a while, he taps me on the shoulder and says that I should get back to my set. He thought me saying wing me means talk to my target and I said to him he should close the deal. He did not want to, because he didn't knew how to take it more sexual and intimate. I said allright I'm going to do it

I re-open my set and now I start to get really into it. First of she sits down and I immdiately make a subtle touch with my leg on her leg to see her response. She doesn't remove it so I make sure I put more pressure on her in order for her to notice it. At the same time, I'm talking about something boring and I also see her pupils are really dilated. You can easily tell when a girl is attracted at you by looking at her pupils. To add to that, her hands started touching me when I did a funny tease remark on her and hands never lie. If a woman is repulsed by your presence, she will never touch you. You can never fake body language..it's just the human nature at its core. At this stage, I know I can kiss I just have to pull the trigger. This is what I mean when I say that we see the Matrix. These subtle cues and subtle signs are not ambigous and NOBODY pays attention to them. That's what seperates us from the 95% of guys out there. When you start to get good at this it's crazy how these small things you just see them right away and you never doubt them..because you know you "see the matrix".

I started looking at her really seductively and closed the distance between us. I than said: "You have a really sexy smile" and I pinched her cheeck holding eye contact. She made a big smile and then I said: "I know that if I don't kiss you right now, I'm going to hit myself with a baseball bat when I'll get home" She says: "Why did you wait so much?" I responded nothing...took her by the chin and made out..really quality make out she was really into it and was doing a great job

During our interaction, I said to her that I'll be 20 soon..and she made the saddest face ever. She thought I'm 25..and she's 22..so I though it was over. She even told Swinths that she's not too happy that I'm young but he told me 2 years is not a big difference. I'm glad I pushed the limits and still went for the kiss.

I number closed after relatively easy and I said to her that I hope she's not boring on the phone and that she's fun like in real life. We want to go out on a day 2 tomorrow to a club with Swinths and the other girl. I'll see about that but nice report.

Peace out guys!

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[quote="Valentyn"]
During our interaction, I said to her that I'll be 20 soon..and she made the saddest face ever. She thought I'm 25..and she's 22..so I though it was over. She even told Swinths that she's not too happy that I'm young but he told me 2 years is not a big difference. /quote]

2 years is no big deal, nothing to prevent you from picking her up if she is interested. Just like you, I will be 20 soon but my range of girl is 17-25. Of course, I don't game a 17 year old girl the same way I do with older girls but overall, it's pretty similar.

On a side note, when I was 18 and new to the game, I seen a 24 year old girl for a couple of nights. I was freshly out of high school and she was already a manager for some place! In my personal experience, the only real difference between older girl is that they are more sexually experienced and you need to keep pushing the pace or else they will get bored.

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Dear Optimist, Pessimist & Realist,

Just to let you know that while you guys were arguing about the glass of water...... I drank it!

Sincerely, the Opportunist

Date: 12 april 2012

CAJUN


I just came back from a meeting with Cajun..one of the best instructors in the world. He's definitely really cool and friendly and I loved his personality. Here are some key points we talked about:

- When you say something you don't really mean, it will telegraph that to the girl. You need to convince yourself that you're believing in what you're saying, even if what your saying is not real. A good actor embodies the character he's playing and he lets his emotions talk to the audience, not the actual words he's reciting

- Start to act like the man you want to be in 10 years. Stop hoping. Hope fucks you up. Take action

- Even professionals warm up in field. He usually does 4-5 warm-up approaches just to get in the zone and shoot the shit before starting his night

- Good game is the ability to convert yellow lights into closes

Green lights: when a girl escalates more than you're escalating (you touch her shoulder, she re-initiates the touch by touching your hip)

Solution: escalate like a mad-man


Yellow lights: when a girl testes you or is being neutral

Solution: move forward slowly


Red lights: when a girl says "Fuck off" or "I have a boyfriend, nice meeting you"

- If a girl puts you on the spot, reverse the script (she tells you: "nice lines you're using" you respond: "are they working? " )

- 1st date, go with the mindset that you're seeing a friend from a really long time. Don't stress out and build comfort first. Too many guys go sexually way too fast on the first date and that makes most girls uncomfortable. Get to know her a bit so she can adjust to your presence and feel normal and then start escalating

- What you say is not important at all, but it's the emotions that you exude when you engage with somebody. Imagine in your head fucking her or that you already have fucked her and start believing in that scenario (like a good actor would) and you will be surprised how that will change the way you say things and the way she will react to your presence


That's the big lines..it was great seeing him, I even took a picture Anyway guys..

Peace out and good luck in field!

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Hey man, love that you've actually kept up with the posts.

So do you usually go out alone or with people?

Date: 13 april 2012

ONLINE NUMBER CLOSE


I approach this 18 year old HB living not too far from where I live with "Are you one of those girls who take forever to do their hair and makeup? Or does it just look that way?” She responds and qualifies herself to me that she doesn't take a lot of time so I respond with: "Good..my ex was taking hours and hours to get ready. I can't put up with that anymore"

These 2 lines are from Bravo and I use them all the time. They're gold, original and always work..you can easily transition from that to something else or asking her name. I ask her name and she asks mine..I took it as an IOI and I saw that she started investing in our interaction because she was responding within seconds that I was sending a message.

I start some qualification material and she qualifies so after a while, I ask her to come grab a coffee with me. She says that she has a lot of exams, but she'll see if she can make it. I see this as an opportunity and I ask her number to keep in contact. She denies because she usually doesnt give her number this fast. I don't act surprised and I just agree with what she's saying, talked a bit and than leaved. One day and a half goes by without me or her initiating the chat. Today I wake up with a message from her saying: "ok now you can have my number" doesn't make any sense lol

Anyway I started my text game which I'm prettyyyy fucking solid at it. This is actually really weird..texting someone you never saw. It's hard to make humour because she doesn't know how I talk or joke but anyway..I'm setting up a date with her soon!

Peace!

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Nice.

Did you get that from a site like okcupid or from facebook/social networking?

Plenty of fish.com is the best site ever. It's a free online dating site. I don't rely on this, but when I have nothing to do at 9PM..why not having some free sets and free dates as well. It practices your game and your text game a lot..you can watch a video of Bravo doing an online seminar at 21 convention.com about online dating. It's the best he gives you all the tools you need to know to be good at this. This is actually my first number close doing this...pretty cool to not even approach and got my self a number

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okcupid.com is always good but a bit more different style then PoF. but still very good for online dating

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Date: 14 april 2012

LMR - ONCE AGAIN


Allright I need to watch and learn some Mystery techniques of getting past LMR. I'll commit suicide if I get this once again. I go to HB Jiglipuff's house where we're supposed to watch a horror movie and stay up late.

I get in, we order some pizza, eat and then we go to her basement where she has a cinema room with cinema chairs and all the stuff. We put the movie and start watching it. I noticed she was really into it so I didn't cuddle, kino or anything, I just enjoyed the view. However, when the half of the movie was over, I started getting bored and I kissed her.

We started building it up really really slowly..getting more intense to a certain point where she literally jumped on me. I knew it was on after that moment. I tease her a little bit, remove her shirt, remove my shirt and she gets turned on super fast. Ok so at this point she has her bra..I tried removing it but I immediately sensed her being uncomfortable so I stop what I was trying to do and started escalating more. She gets turned on even more, so I go for the bra..she tells me :"No..." but keeps kissing me like fuck. In my head I tell myself wtf is happening?! I let some time pass and this time I try something different. I tell her "Allright remove your bra" She says : "No.." kind of shy. So I told her she shouldn't be shy around me and that she should trust me. We make out some more, go for it again. Now she tells me with a pissed off voice to not go so fast (it took us literally 1 hour to arrive at this point so I don't see how can I take it more slowly). Man I got pissed off..we continued to tease the shit out of eachother but I just couldn't fucking get past this.

Now I'm thinking ok...not the bra..let's try the legs. I put her on top and I start rubbing her pussy through her jeans. She starts to get fucking excitedd and starts moaning. She gets fucking weat but then she says that we should take things slow it's going too fast. At this point I don't know what to do. The only method I know is doing a freeze-out but I didn't though of it. Although, she told me we'll do it but this is just too soon for her. So I remembered what Tenmagnet told me that there are a lot of factors that can determine this LMR thing and it depends on the girl also. I have about 10 hours of comfort with her.. not more than 12 to be completely sure. I'll still close it but it just bothers me I have to wait when she's in to me. Her mother was also upstairs, which probably made her more anxious..so there are different small stuff that add up to her having LMR.

I have Mystery's DVD's where he explain 1 hours of footage of how to overcome LMR..I'm studying this shit tomorrow..I didn't thought this thing could appear so often.

Peace out guys!

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Date: 14 april 2012

ONLINE NUMBER CLOSE


This is HB is so fuckable! I basically did my usual approach and afterwards I teased her that she looks like a good girl and that I'm too toxic for her. She LOVED this. She started asking what's so bad about me and I was just always keeping her on the edge. Saying stuff like: "Don't worry, you'll eventually find out..let's just say that you're parents wouldn't want to meet me" I was experimenting with this stuff and she was more and more receptive to it. It got to a point where we exchanged names..I qualified with are you adventurous or boring like the 90% of the other girls. She qualified and afterwards, SHE invited me on a date.

I then said she should give me her number which she immediately did. This close is really short. She loved the thrilling edge I gave her when I was telling her that I'm not a good guy and all. I can't wait to meet this one!

Peace out!

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About LMR, I feel your pain, man...

Maybe next time, get a drink or two while watching the movie? Maybe it will reduce her inhibition. To me, it doesn't look like you did anything wrong, she was just shy/prude.

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Dear Optimist, Pessimist & Realist,

Just to let you know that while you guys were arguing about the glass of water...... I drank it!

Sincerely, the Opportunist