Women put all men into the disqualification process once they unconsciously notice that these men approach them with sexual intent as shown in their body language. You may think that you are approaching "simply to build rapport for respect and to be a gentleman" but your body language is saying otherwise, hence, the non-verbal rejections you had.

Now, try to read about the Mystery Method's indirect approach. It isn't what you say, it's what women notice in your body language. In face-to-face human interactions, communication is 60% to 80% non-verbal. I can approach women and say very sexual things and yet I don't get rejected because my body language says I have no sexual intentions with them.

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Hellhound- wish i had your skill with body language and words

I would definately like to make them laugh in the first minute but, while Im a fun guy at times, when I see a girl i find very attractive for some reason nervous feelings arize and that coupled with joking around kinda makes a weird combination that sends mixed signals.

ok..I took a break and read the articles. More reading more questions.

1. The second article was very statistical which kinda left me confused.Yet it impressed me that while most view the man as the persuer, subtility the lady is manipulating the strings persuing via the body language.

I would like to learn more about the timing, body language to avoid, and body language to like. Are there more things I can read?

2. When you talked about mystery method indirect approach was there something specifially I should be looking at? I looked briefly at MM and found a few things about body language but not a lot. One thing that threw me a little bit was he taked about breaking rapport, where most things that Ive read is that its better to build rapport. Can someone clarify this a little more for me?

3. I would like to go back to the gym where the ladies felt uncomfortable to use the facility, yet Im not sure if they expressed concern about me or if Ill be questioned by security if I return. Would it be safe to return? If so and I return and Im questioned, what would be the appropriate response in both words and body language?

4. Another thing that Mystery talks about is being a tribe leader or friend of tribe leader. In my life, I was picked on as a kid and primarily grown up alone. Even in the work force, many of my collegues really dont have my back and arent interested in getting involved. Some male customers and older woman will do business with me, but many women do snub me. Most of my friends are more interested in the entertainment value they can get from me rather than having my back. So I guess growing up and being alone, I wonder if my problems are more than just women and also go outside that realm of being able to interact productively with others. Also Im curious how to fix it.

Ps. I dont mind slipnslide talking more. Im a believer the more thats said, the more data I have to digest. For someone else who prefers brivity then that answer might be best for their answer but for mine I like wordy

You'll have information overload. What you need now is to focus your reading and APPLY what you've learned one hour each day.

1. Concentrate on Mystery's indirect approach. Drop everything else, for now, in the book. Focus on how he physically comes near to a girl or a set of girls. Note where his feet will be pointing and the position of his shoulder.

Watch this. The first guy who attempted the pick up got blown off with the direct approach of his body language. The Asian guy used the indirect approach of body language.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDoLDekK-L8[/youtube]

2. Prepare yourself for the direct approach. Eat right. Exercise. Fix your grooming. Change your wardrobe.

3. Master wide rapport. Dump your deep rapport tendencies for now. Learn from this 52 year old man. He's a master at wide rapport. how-to-get-an-hb9-to-drive-4hrs-to-fuck ... 32093.html

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And, this post added nothing to the conversation... You're like the 5 year old listening to the grown-ups talk, and when one person mispronounced a word - you jumped in as the savior.

Dude, offer help or get out. Dick-measuring on the internet is pretty lame... and as a result, I'll apologize to others reading this (not you), and continue...

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Newlearner.... the issue is your own confidence. What helps that is immersion in the game itself. With each new set you open, you gain that confidence. Study! Learn routines you can use. USE means not memorize and regurgitate - think of every way she can answer you back, and prepare for that. DOn't allow yourself to get flustered - remember, once you're in front of her - she's just as insecure. If she's not, you help her get that way (neg).

This is all about social dynamic. The MPUA knows how to separate himself from the masses - but can do this quietly as well as peacocking. I prefer the quiet approach.

Practice practice practice. Fail as much and as often as you can until the failures get much more distance between them....

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The basic body language approach that I can teach you is to position yourself at the side of the woman; not in front. You should also be very conscious on how you position your shoulders and feet. Watch how Will Smith does this in Hitch while sarging Eva Mendez. Note also the first guy who attempts the pick up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyT5UHDi ... re=related

The topical conversation also bounces from one topic to the next and is focused on the woman; not the pick up artist. Topic to topic bounces are what we call wide rapport.

As in the first video above, note the takeaway to show "no sexual intent" or non-neediness. The same is true with the Hitch movie clip. This is the bail out before your stay became unwelcome within the first four minutes. Ladies will not be expecting this because the dozen guys or so who approached them do not want to leave. With this approach, you also bait the woman to chase you instead of you chasing her.

I use this body language approach in my daily sarges and the bail out just at the peak when girls are having the most fun with the interaction. I'm very patient in my day game because my goal is not a quick fuck but to build pick up skills.

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The video was fun. Sadly, I related to the first guy and dont understand what he did wrong as he just seemed friendly, not a pickup. (The girls should have been polite to him. To me, they seemed like the jerks.)

At this point, Ive been reading for about a year. Some things are becoming clearer and I see many skills are not internalized. For example, Im starting to notice wide rapport in the video and realize that skill is not a part of me yet. Also, Im not sure how to gain this skill. I will ask Heywood for advice if that's what youre recommending.

Im curious where specifically in MM you're recommending within the book and/or dvd set. Im assuming the indirect approach is inside the regular MM and not another product.

Immersion in a safe enviorment with knowledge, backup, and skill helps. If a younger guy approaches a lady and she feels uncomfortable, most will look the other way. After being questioned a couple times and made to feel uncomfortable it reinforces the possiblity of serious accusations of harrassmant. So, for me, immersion could create stronger negative feelings if not done right. Im wondering if simply standing sitting by a young lady without nervousness is a positive step. New work problems created by a supervisor who doesnt respect me is now a new concern Im having to handle- which is creating internal stress.

Question 3 has not been answered... (I would like to go back to the gym where the ladies felt uncomfortable to use the facility, yet Im not sure if they expressed concern about me or if Ill be questioned by security if I return. Would it be safe to return? If so and I return and Im questioned, what would be the appropriate response in both words and body language? ) I can develop a plan about exercizing at the gym once I get an answer on how to proceed.

Thanks for the followups.

Pages 79 to 83. Chapter 5. A1: Open. The Mystery Method: How to Get Beautiful Women Into Bed.

The key? Read one concept at a time. Test one concept at a time. Polish one concept at a time. And then integrate several concepts into one continuous sequence.

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I am following up on this and going forward.The MM is very insightful and Im seeing things that Im not seeing elsewhere.
The more I read the more I know I dont know

While internally my mindset was that beta is better, Im starting to release how much of a handicap it can be.

If I can turn things around, it would be a true pygmalion story. Having things hard wired for over 40 years is hard to change. I have been trained to be submissive by domineering parents, being picked on as a kid in school, a value system of being peace and respect, rejection in college by both guys and girls, etc.

Also, being older is harder if one hasnt been successful in developing the financial or culture status. In the workforce its employment at will and I really dont have any allies that have my back. Most are out just for themself.

While I think the odds of finding a compatable girl to marry and have kids with is limited, I would be satisfied to have workplace success and be respected. At least that would give me financial stability.

Its sad that nice guys arent respected, but we all have to go forward.

Hey brother, I would like to emphasize that women are the major reason for our existence as men. Women are partners; not enemies.

Women may seem like jerks when blowing guys off who approach them with direct body language but all of these girlie reactions are unconscious. This behavior goes back several thousands of years that are now clearly imprinted on human genes. Imagine the caveman girls who get approached by so many cavemen who are basically wearing nothing. A nude caveman with a hard-on who invades the personal space of a woman (some 18 to 24 inches) is more likely to get his penis inside that barely covered vagina. She'll get pregnant by a caveman that she barely knows. The caveman guy might not be able to provide for her or protect her baby. Her baby will have greater chances of survival when she qualifies the caveman guy first before allowing him to invade her personal space.

However, a very attractive caveman guy can go directly to any caveman girl and plant his dick directly to any vagina he wants. Girls will sense this through their genetic instincts. This means that you have to work on your physical sexual attractiveness through exercise and proper diet, good grooming, and other biological factors.

Mystery has been the top PUA for several reasons. What works for him might not work for you because he has certain qualities that you might not have. Treat the Mystery Method as a guide to understand the step-by-step and second-by-second dynamics of courtship. It does not work 100% but a significant percentage of his ideas work in the real world. Nothing is wasted. Find what works for you and dump those that don't work for you.

Being a "nice guy" should be seen in the context of "Not being the average or below average guy". The mere fact that you want to improve your life and you have the strong desire to learn new skills place you in the above average category. In time, you will still be a nice guy but no longer an average guy.

The average guy or nice guy is content with the way how things are going on his life. Alpha males always work towards improving their lives whether they are down, struggling to rise up, or already up there on the top.

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Thanks for your kind thoughts bro..

I really think the girls in caveman days may have looked for the most responsible guy, yet I dont believe they were promiscuous. Guys and girls needed to get married and have kids to work the land and survive. They werent looking simply for fun times. In fact most people back then had more serious problems than sexual pleasure. In our information age with so much free time, guys and girls seek the perfect 10 only to find out that those who appeared to be perfect were not real. Back then the guy/girl pool were the local few and the critera to consider was different.

I like the idea of negging. I just really need how to apply these principles to business. The main thing I got so far from MM is where it says if your not a tribal leader or a friend of the tribal leader youre basically sterile. Im a loner not by choice, therefore I guess I dont meet MM critera. My boss treats me like dirt. Hopefully I can make some allies that will have my back yet its sad people arent treated fairly.