Some people will think this is a pointless question, but it will help me greatly if you had constructive criticism and Examples.

I went out Last night as it was a mates Birthday, We were lining up to get in a club, and 2 girls were behind us, So I thought just talk to them to be social.

There was a drunk guy talking *Mumbling* to them and she made him guess her age so i thought I'll jump in.

Me: Your 26?
Girl 1: No!
Me: 25
Girl 2: Yes!
Me: Ok, So What do i win?
Girl 1+2: Ermmm, You win a chance to let us get infront of you in the que.
Me: i'll pass on that prize Thanks .
Girl 2:Haha What's your name
Me: Guess
(Went through stupid amount off names)
She finally got my name after forever......
Me: Your name is Ethal?
Girl 1: Haha Do i look 80 Years old!
(I then just guessed loads of names and finally got it.)

(I then tried to do the shampoo best friends test, but it failed because i rushed it.)

Then we started Joking about them not being best friends and not liking Girl 1.
(The whole conversations lasted for 5 -7 minutes)

Then a complete douche behind Them butted In and said to me, Your smooth.......Smooth as a fucking Heart Attack!
No-one laughed......

Me: Is it any off your fucking business, are you involved in this conversation?
Dickhead: No, You said you didn't like her.
Me: We were joking, and took it out of context, so you need to stay the fuck out of other people's conversations.
Dickhead: Look and you wearing a cardigan.
Me: Yeah? And? You Need to shut your mouth you Cunt (Sorry for the bad language, i was angry)
Me: Well that has Improved the mood!
Dickhead: *Mumble* (I was later told he said "Cardigan wearing cunt")
Me: What you fucking say?!? (I was seething)
Me: It was nice to meet you Betty and Ethal (Joke about there names earlier)

Now i totally understand that it was basically a pointless interaction. I would just like Advice, and has anyone got examples of a good interaction, and an outline (Things to follow throughout the interaction)

I would be very Thankful for were in the interaction went wrong and where to improve.

Thankyou

Next time handle a dbag like that without getting angry. Remember, you get mad, you lose your cool. You could had just ignore him or say something like "Did you girls heard anything? Nah, just my imagination"

I know, It annoys me when someone enters in on a conversation with nothing to say but a dickish thing.

With the girls, I get lost with-in the conversation, i feel as if i need a checklist to go through, otherwise it goes nowhere.

Thanks for your advice

don't fight the flow, agree with cockblocks, then dissmiss and ignore, focus on your target, not your obsticle, if he is giving you huge problems and you feel like having a pissing contest with him, then I find the best way to tool a guy is a frame of he is gay, and your only goal is to make him angry and for you to keep your cool, as soon as you got to him, stop trying to tool him, and go back to ignoring him and going with the flow

example handles

CB:Your smooth.......Smooth as a fucking Heart Attack!
YOU:yep, smooth as balls (start ignoring him then talk to girls)

CB:No, You said you didn't like her.
YOU:That's because I hate her

CB:Look and you wearing a cardigan.
YOU: thx, I love your gay clothes too

Dickhead: *Mumble* (I was later told he said "Cardigan wearing cunt")
YOU: *ignore and talk to girls*


and if he seems to be stumbling or seems like he is just saving pride to stay but knows he is all emotional and looking like a clown, just start dissmissing everything he says with small little tidbits like

cool man,
awesome,
good stuff,
uh huh,

and quickly dissmiss and ignore that he exists, do your best to have rapport going on with the girl, do not include him, just keep the rapport with her, and when he inturrupts dismiss what he says and ignore

but if a guy enters a set, and he is not rude, give him respect, just don't focus on him, if anything befriend him, but still focus on the girl and not the guy

Try and keep your composure better next time. You didn't prove anything to the girls by going off on him. You just showed you have low confidence in the area of women.

Thanks Pumpington and lvl80retpaladin for your advice, I'm never normally angry at anyone, i normally shrug them off and agree with them. In this occasion i was tired and didn't appreciate him butting in with a stupid childish comment. (If he involved himself being normal and cool, i would of been fine with it and befriended him.)

Could someone help me with the guideline/checklist kind of thing when conversing with HB's?? how to progress, as the above conversation shows that it doesn't look as if it is going anywhere. (It Didn't go anywhere)

work on progressing physically rather then progressing verbally, you want to figure out how interested in you she is, test compliance, and build it, focus more on that then your verbals, just have fun with her and when you notice she is in a good mood or asking your questions, get to know her, but keep most of your focus on how she reacts to your touch, and test what she will let you get away with, if no resistance and the interaction is going positive keep escalating more and more, if she stops you and you hit a threashold, back up, withdraw a bit, then when it starts to go good again, move forward some more

figure out what you are seeking in a girl, then screen her to see if she shows promise for that roll, if you want a girlfriend, act like a boyfriend, if you want a friend, act like a friend, if you want a fuck buddy, act like a fuck buddie, if you want a one night stand.. you get the idea, be more clear with your intentions by the frame behind your words and actions, stay congruent to that frame, don't worry so much about getting her to like you, or making it work, worry more about the frame and if she is accepting it, and how she is responding rather then what you can do, if things are not looking good, just move onto a different girl, if you are getting good at compliance testing you will probably be able to just eject from sets that don't offer what you want without them realizing anything, and if the whole venue sucks you can just return to the best set and escalate more persistantly until an absolute rejection, expect girls will resist, but get familiar with the difference between shit testing and resistance, and outright dis-interest and rejection

Are there any topics i should talk about or should it just be "where are you from?" "what do you do?" Or should i joke about with HBs? Playing games, fluff talk but just escalate physically?? With the screening if i'm looking for an adventurous girl, i ask them what's the most adventurous thing you've done? or build it into the convo with a story of adventure from me?

I like to keep it as fun as possible. But it's fine to ask where they're from or what they do if you're trying to find something to talk about.

Just make sure it's not like this

What do you do?
blah blah
Oh that's cool. So where you from?
blah blah
Nice! how'd you 2 know each other?

That conversation spells disaster. Talk and listen more than you ask.

Cheers Titanman, So as long as it isn't an interview style it doesn't really matter what you say? (As long as you don't get weird or too personal) And the screening questions, do i just work it into the conversation yeah??

Thanks All again for your advice.

Happy Gaming!