Hey there,

I improved my game a lot lately. I used to be terrible with girls and although I dont consider myself a PUA yet, I feel very confident and Ive scored some goals Im proud of, those you remember for a long time, something impossible to me before.

Reading and studying PUA methods helped me a lot through my transformation, but also made me change my view into some things.

I used to consider girls a beautiful creature, mysterious, incredible, from another planet. Of course, after a few months of studies and learning I can see it different now: I can read their patterns, I can see how they think, how they behave in different situations and I can predict almost always what are they going to do/say next. Ive been always good on reading people and now Im even better, specially reading girls.

Although this helped me a lot to get laid and stuff, made me lose a bit of interest on it. I see women now like boring, plain creatures, easy to read and easy to drive and handle. Is true, not all of them are like this, but most of them are: if you understand one 7-8HB you probably will understand every other one, is a gender thing.

The point is that I feel a bit useless to read and read and study and go out and open with HB´s and date with them because it always goes the same way, I feel that Im better than them and I get bored of it very soon.

I saw a seminar from Logun some time back on YT where he said that when you find the right girl youll know exactly what to do because you will feel it and words and actions will flow. I dont feel that very much, and when I do, is just primary attraction: when I get to know her all the interest she woke up in me for a first time fades aways slowly as I get to know her and I finally get bored of her and discard it to find another target.

The title says it all: do girls deserve all this effort we put on learning how to chase them? isnt that to consider that theyre better than us when actually theyre much more plain and predictable?

Perhaps Im not getting good targets? perhaps I always date similar girls? perhaps happens to everyone from time to time and you just learn to deal with it? or is that I keep targets for too long and I should just use them as one-two night stands?

Hope to read opinions from some guys with the same problem, or some guys that can give advice.

Thanks in advance!

Why should the pursuit of women mean that you consider yourself better than them? It disgusts me when I see so many aspiring PUAs acting like they're better than women and that women are just like sheep that they bemoan herding, like its a chore.

There are some amazing, wonderful and inspiring women out there. The pursuit of them should be a joy and you should take pleasure in their company. I think men get way too caught up with pickup and they stop viewing women as actual people and more like robots that throw out tests that they must pass in order to feel validated.

I for one am still able to live in the moment with a woman without constantly trying to read, second guess or manipulate her. When I'm with a woman I don't think about pick up stuff, I just do it.

If they are worth it to you, carry on.

If you don't think they are worth it, don't bother!

I don't really get where you're coming from with this...

I see you mentioned 7s and 8s specifically, maybe the answer is to step up to 9s and 10s? Or focus on another area of your life for awhile, then pickup might seem more fun again.

Rough Operator, although I dont like your tone, a bit big headed to me, I like your answer, seems very accurate.

I will try to change mi view on girls and to feel them like real persons and not like robots lol, but it seems pretty hard right now, I just cant find the one worth to do it, most of the girls I jump to are very standard.

Lockdown, focusing in other areas of my life can do it, will give it a try, but actually Im not constantly thinking about PUA and stuff, I just introduce the PUA thoughts in my way to see life, is like looking at everything through another mirror.

Hope to read some more answers and keep the debate on.

You're clearly not getting laid.

All I see in your post is getting bored by using words such as, "reading" and "knowing her". None of that relates to getting pussy. I study it a lot and go out and meet a lot of females. Getting laid is challenging and I know you're not speaking the truth because you're not getting laid in the first place.

There are always obstacles. It can be anything. There is no such thing as game. When you gain a lot of experience, you won't be galantly galloping being some sort of smooth operator or Don Juan in your interactions.

I don't know what you've been reading, but it doesn't sound like you focus on your primary goal of getting laid with these girls. You're more just trying to get them invested and calling that "success" for your own ego.

If you are actually horny and want to fuck girls, you wouldn't be posting this. In fact, 90% of the people in this community aren't doing this stuff to get laid. They're just doing it for great reactions from women.

Ask yourself what you really want. Seduction is all about getting in touch with your desires. When you are with a girl, you don't think when you should kiss her. You do it because you want to. That's how you get girls in bed.

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Don't get on one knee for a girl that won't get on two for you.

If you are meeting only boring women then, how about you start looking for interesting women?