Added one of my old Bosses daughters on Facebokk. She's an 8, nothing special. 2 big issues wiling against me here. 1)She has a boyfriend 2)I one night standee her best friend about a year ago.

So I hit her up...small shit chat for a bit in which she was giving good analytical answers but. She didn't respond for like 14 hours so I sent her a last ditch message to see if I could further provoke her without having to re-establish the conversation.

Me:I hope you can take a joke. I knew your father well and thought you were cute and wanted to say hi, I'm consequences

Her:Well hello, lol and I'm sorry you had to grace your presence around my father...he's an ass. And thanks, I guess, I thought I would go ahead and point out the obvious that 1)I have a boyfriend 2)I do believe you and my best friend might have a slight past. So, sorry if I came off as an ol' fridgid hag, just thought I'd put it out there before any confusion can occur.

I could care less if I land her or not. But her answer was intriguing. He'll I don't even remember having sex with her best friend I just know it happened and I dropped her off a MA pill because I blacked out that night.

Any thoughts moving forward? here is what I WAS gonna say but decided I'd come here to get some ideas.

"Your boyfriend seems cool. Unfortunately I'm not into guys lol.." After that I'm stumped. Maybe she responded sonheavily because she feels the urge to vindicate her best friend, maybe she has some interest in me. Idk.

Anyway, Brainstorm away!

What is so confusing to you about this? It's difficult to spell this out any more word for word than she already has...she has a boyfriend, she's not interested in you, she's explaining this to you flat out so you don't get confused and think there is any possibility of you two hooking up.

If your immediate response to her telling you this is some cocky funny come-on, all that says is that you are too dumb to understand what she said, or you're an arrogant bastard who doesn't care. Your only possible hope with this girl is to friendzone yourself and then slowly over time make her realize how cool you are while simultaneously making her second guess her current BF, but that's a long process and doesn't sound like she's worth it to you...

Its funny you said that because she then sent me a message just 5 minutes ago that said

Her:I'm sorry I didn't mean to come off as such a bitch with that last message lol

I'll figure it out bro. Thanks for your advice though, or lack there of I suppose.

If she's still contacting you then it's obvious she doesn't want to cut contact. I'm not into gaming girls with bfs, so i would say keep it casual and cool, escalate if you see the window of opportunity, but just don't focus too much on her. As usual, keep going for other girls, and heck, she could introduce you to some female friends.

I don't give a shit if they have a BF or not - if they're able to be gamed, then their 'relationship' wasn't that good to begin with, was it? I lost my 'give a fuck' early on.


If she's still texting you - slide into the friend zone for a little. Damage control your past with her friend as best you can - then slowly move it to casual/random/fun guy... then you build a new picture - develop and escelate.

She's blown you off, but said sorry about it - she 'may' be backtracking, or she might just have a conscience and care about you.

If you brought serious talent into the sack with her best friend - she already knows you're a stud in bed (women can't shut up about deeply sexual shit)- so her friend will actually be DHVing you surrepticiously. BUT - you said you were hammered, so pro'lly not that time....

Good luck.

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I would say before a date texting is still BS because it can be a slow blow off, I'd say get that date set after what happen on the date is just nature seduction, you like her and she like you that it.

Only thing you need to figure out after asking that date is do you want to break a relationship.
The rest is just your skills.

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Ok so I responded last night with

Me:Don't apologize, just dont let it happen again! Haha jp. All jokes aside I'm surprised that you say that about your father. Hell, the only reason I even hit you up was because he talked so glowingly about you so I wanted to see what all the fuss was about lol. And yea I know Crissy. The term "slight past" is a bit of an exaggeration but she's cool. Wish her the best of luck with Tommy. Me and him used to play some ball together and some Call of Duty here an there. He's a great guy for her. Also, I didn't even know you had a boyfriend. Don't worry I won't take him from you. I'm not really into dudes lol

Her:Yea Crissy is awesome and her and Tommy have been together for a year now. Did you and Tommy go to school together or something?

Me:Yea (Short response to see if she would message back)

Her:So how do you know my dad though? He's old lol

Me: We used to smoke weed together

Her: seriously? Lol

Me: No we worked together lol. But I got work in the morning so I talk to you later Kim.

Her: oh hahaha. Night

So got past her initial wall I think. I'll prolly just go for the "Cool good looking other guy" frame for now. I wouldn't get to see her for a month or so anyway.

Thanks for the input guys. She broke down much easier than I had anticipated.

She's got a boyfriend. Why not go out and meet girls without boyfriends?

It'll be much easier than trying to convince this girl to cheat on her man.

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Sorry, I disagree.

EVERYONE says they have a boyfriend out in the clubs... Big deal. Treat it as gospel and you're being the same AFC every other man will be.

IF she has a BF, she'll not let my game work - if she does allow it to work - the BF isn't even a factor.

Separate yourself from the masses bud. That's Pickup101.

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Dude, if you've been gaming for less than a year (I don't know your history) you've got skill.

It's cool to see 'naturals'. They're easy to spot in person, herder with just the written word.

Seriously, EVERYONE can give advice - they always seem to know better... But you nailed this.

You handled the friend delimna with flare. You DHVd the other dude (classy move), dismissed the issue while not offering too much info and she allowed it. Cool points for that.

You were playful, complimented her dad which acts as a subliminal neg - she now is thinking that she thrashed him to you - and you defended him and complimented her in the process - OUTSTANDING.

You also pulled the FTC, and have it in line to hit her with random bullshit just to make her smile (random means seldom and out of the blue - not inundating her... LOL), you can wait til just befoer the F2F and really escelate.

Rock on man.

Rodeo.

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