Long story short:
HB9 and me on and off for about 18 months now! Thought it was done, moved on! She's kinda selfish and tricked me into afc-behavior! Haven't heard from her or seen her in 2 months. Heard from some mutual friends she has a boyfriend now...

All of a sudden she texts me:
HB9: Hey you! Haven't talked to you for so long! How are you? Did you start your internship yet?
Me (22 hours later): Hey Peta Todd! Been very busy but I have some great stuff to tell you! Will do soon!
HB9 (3 hours later): Peta Todd?

Haven't replied for about 24 hours now! She knows I call her Peta Todd sometimes so I figured ahe was just seeking attention, and my time is to booked up for nonsense...

So these are my questions:
1. Is this just a test to see if I jump her hoops and did I?
2. If not, whats next?

Thanks for your thoughts!

Seems like a good sign. The boyfriend card is old. The fact is - she contacted you. You also have left subliminals to ensure you're not one of the lovelorn idiots that respons with every text she texts within minutes - and you always text more - NOTHING is more pathetic. So you're already in the right mindset. Game on.

As for texting... do you text random shit? fun facts? role-play escapes where she gets to be 'adventurous' if only in texts?

Start your strategy after you've goaled her. Then figure out how best to get there.

BTW - she didn't make you show AFC behavior - you ALLOWED yourself to do that. Never give any woman the power to change your own mind. She can suggest - only you can decide.

Drop some more details bud! It's ahrd to get a feel for things without some of the other variables...

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Ok so what is it you want to know?

About the texting as I said this has been on and of for 18 months so I did do some role-playing, dhv'ing and so on at some point.

As for her and me, known her since september '10, we were classmates didn't know anything about pua back then so only picked up the, obvious, ioi's much later, but didn't blame myself since i didn't know. She initiates the very first contact a week after our class ended (january '11), played it cool, she started working harder, started dating in april. Dated for some time (about 4 months) k-close but no f-close, although I had the chance twice(!!!), but again I wasn't that smart about the whole thing at that time. So, off course, she started losing interest. Had some words, didn't speak for more than a month. In november I tried re-initiating via fb, nothing happend at first but after two weeks she started texting again, tried to take it to dating again, she flaked, did k-close her at a party, after the second flake I stopped responding her texts this is january '12. So I heard about this boyfriend, some random guy so has known for sometime, didn't affect me as I was stating to make a lot of progress with hb's. And now she is back...

She lives 100 km away, we both have our internship on weekdays at the moment.

At the moment I'm not after a relationship with her, but a hb9 is a hb9, i want to bang her...

Anything else?

there is very quick way to screen out a good thing, from a waste of time, it goes like this

-don't build rapport over facebook and your phone, do it in person, if you just number close off a cold approach, then build about 1-2 days of rapport just so the frame is set that she doesn't feel weird talking/texting you on the phone

-invite her out, and make yourself less available to talk/text on the phone (until you have gotten some serious investment)

it would look like this

HB9: Hey you! Haven't talked to you for so long! How are you? Did you start your internship yet?
Me: Hey Peta Todd! it certainly has been to long, I'm good, very busy with xyz, we should meet up for on xyz day and catch up!
HB9: blah blah blah continues convo and either complies or doesn't
Me:cool, well I look forward to it, have to go, I'll see you on Xday

3 most important screening points imo are,

-will she openly talk to you and let you define the frame
-will she be alone with you
-will she let you touch her in a meaningful way

figure out all 3 points right away, if she screens well for all 3, then you have a good lead, if one of those is missing, she is a waste of time

in other words, just invite this girl to meet you, if she flakes out, just don't try to contact her

also is there any particular reason you waited 22 hours to respond to her text?

Ok so as I said she contacted me out of nowhere, what should I have done? not respond and drive overthere? This is all very helpful information for the future in which I see many hb's, however since i can't jump back in time and give your answer, it's not going to help me now.

I see why your convo works better, but because of the history of flaking and all I didn't want to allow myself to get pulled in again so quick. That's why I didn't directly go for a meet-up. I want to control the situation, and I an sure I can, I am just inexperienced and don't know how to...

As for waiting 22 hours, the only reason was: we had no contact for 2 months, I saw the text, put my phone in my pocket to reply later, carried on with my work, haf dinner, went to the gym, slept, got a text the next day and saw i didn't reply hers yet, so i did it then.

Don,

If it's just a fuck, and no other investment - follow Pumpington's advice.

She' flaking, she's contacting you back, she's basically in control.

Remove yourself from the equation for a while - there's no rush. Time is your friend here. It lets her forget the issues from before, and let's you re-initiate the game.

Build your premise.

As for waiting to respond - use the exponential time delay theory. Always increase the time it takes you to respond over her own texts. If you show you're not a puppet - she won't try to pull your strings. If you show you're edgy and cocky over texts - and always FUN (Never negative text in seriousness - do that shit F2F), she'll start to look forward to your texts. You change her paradigm of you - when you're really simply evolving so she can see a different side of you. It's all mind game.

And you're right.... she may be annoying as hell, may have serious issues... etc... BUT - an HB9 deserves to be tapped properly. Go for it.

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my post already addresses this you simply invite her out when she contacts you, she either flakes or complies, don't build rapport, don't just randomly show up at her place like a stalker, you simply segway into an invite to meet up and catch up, she either agrees with that, or does not agree with that, either way don't waste time talking to her on the phone when it won't further you in your aim to sleep with her


you are thinking this way out of neediness, it is not about the convo ''working better'' it is about you weeding her out if she is not interested (compliance testing), a girl that won't sleep with you is a girl that won't sleep with you, don't seek her approval because you need to get her, talk to her when she talks to you, but if it won't lead to anything, then don't pursue it, if she flakes she is not interested and just calling/texting cause she is bored, don't worry about what she wants, worry about what you want, if you are bored too, then who cares, text with her, just know that it is not helping you in getting into her pants, she either wants to or doesn't want to, and if that is all you want from her, then follow through with getting that or not pursuing her

as for the 22 hours, fair enough, just don't be ignoring a girls calls on purpose to try to get some sort of reaction out of her, it is needy, just answer her like a normal person if you have time to do so, 22 hours is pretty extreme

Thank you guys!

I have clear answers now! I have more understanding of the situation!

So an update on this since I don't know what to do.

I didn't reply on the Peta Todd?, things went silent after that for a couple of days...

Just for fun I texted her in the following weekend (she's an intern at some footballclub)

Me: I want to celebrate a championship this year, why don't you get some collegues together and go topless by the line.(her team was playing one of my teams rivals in the top of the league. PS. The message is shorter in my own language)
HB9: All going well!!!! (This was exactly when her team made it 2-1, I had the game on while making dinner)

Didn't respond, cooking, preparing for work next day, bed.

Next morning:

HB9: Sorry! Are you ok with a draw? (Game ended at 2-2)
Me (3 hours later, after work): They still lost points!
HB9 (10 mins later): Hahaha, thats right!

Left it again, didn't feel like it!

So the next day I see her friendrequest on fb, This is the third time, deleted her after I was done with her the first time, she tried again after we got sort of back together, refused it then and now she tries again! Also all of a sudden she asks a mutual friend if she can come hang out with us again sometimes like we used to...

I don't really know where to go with all this. I want to game her on one hand, but on the other being on and off like we do sort of makes me feel like she's in control. Confusion is no good for solid game...

Thoughts anyone?

you seem to already have a solid grasp of what is going on, make up your mind with what you want and be sure

I want her, there's no question about that! Honestly, a week ago I said I just wanted to bang her, bit I definitly want more than that! But I guess as you can see in my posts, I'm not feeling very confident about it! Normally I would go for it, I even made plan...

Sounds like you are doing great and making her work for it. Keep that going and she wont stop.

Ok so I could use some more expertadvice on this one!

Haven't heard from her in about two weeks, didn't do much about it myself either. Don't really feel like she's a priority in my life at the moment, been very busy working during daytime and working out at night! She has repeatedly been asking this mutual friend about hanging out with us. These mutual friends, all men and non of them into PU for as far as I know, know about the history between me and her and want to see us reunited, so they keep pushing me to let them invite her over on one of our nights. However I feel that going for that (hanging out in a group) now will make it too easy on her and she has invested too little so far...

I am still in my learning curve so I am wondering: does any of the above make any sense? I mean why would I want to go hang out with someone who dumped me and when she wants back in only sends three texts and a FB-request? I can be with btter women right?

How would you all go about?

Anyone? I really could use some help on the strategy here... or should I just let go?

Don, I don't do Facebook - too many landmines when running true game. I prefer to be an enigma.

That said, who do you do? Dude, what do you want to do? Do you want to conquer her? Do you want to just fuck her? That window MAY be closed, but why not at least try?

Hit her with a bring-back text. See what happens....

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Women are like ceramic tile.... if you do the prep work, and lay them properly the first time...you can walk all over them for years to come.