Hey guys
I have to say that I've always been against lay reports, I really don't see their point. Most lay reports are basicually about guys bragging about how much "sex" they have and I say "sex" because do you know how easy it is to write a sex story? How do you know that's true?You are thinking pictures, yes some lay reports have pictures but this is 2012 getting pictures of girls is quite easy.

I discussed this topic with relationship consultant Hayley Quinn and this is what she said
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNnbDwRA ... AAAAAAAAAA


What do you think?

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Winners have simply formed the habit of doing things losers do not like to do 18/03/12

It you are new to this they can be inspirational. But also it can be useful for new guys to see how the guys tackle LMR, and shit tests.

There are easier and less time consuming ways to brag. However for some guys bragging is a way to encourage them to continue. Another motivational tool you may call it. Or even a way to perpetuate a self forfulling prophecy.

If your innergame is good, it matters not what someone else is saying or doing. Why should someone elses success cause you pain?

A nicer term maybe celebrating success. Who does not want to share some happiness with their friends, and hopefully make new friends from it.

Hollywood produces movies that are fictional. It does not matter if the are based on fact or fiction. If it is done good it can inspire positive emotion. I'm not saying that LRs are fake, just that being that cynical is a negative mindset.

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Meet and Wing.

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The Jackal an Introduction.
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The Field Reports.
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The Lay Reports.
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Lay reports are mostly useless, in my opinion. They are only worthwhile when used as a teaching device, and that is rarely the case. If someone types up a report, and specifically points out certain things they said or did that helped them, why they did it, and why it gets a positive reaction from a female, then that could be noted by readers and possibly applied in the future. In all reality, there's no reason why a report should feature any details about the sexual acts performed, because that doesn't help anyone.

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These hos ain't loyal

You have made some good points, but I have to say it is unfair to expect some guys who do LRs. Not everyone has a degree in English and is able to write in a clear and detailed fashion. However the detailed ones are useful.

You can tell by the some FR or LR, that some guys come from a very high academic background.

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Meet and Wing.

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The Jackal an Introduction.
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The Field Reports.
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The Lay Reports.
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yo dawg don't blink so much and don't hide your hands under the table when the girl has her arm on it. She's taking up more space and seems a bit more comfortable then you. The arm behind the chair is good but next time put the other arm on the table to be more open and take up more space.

Good points on most things said though.

hehehe! i know what poster you are talking about, the dude with the pics, his lay reports are so useless, and is like you say is with the point of bragging, since he is some type of pick up coach... So you can tell which lay reports are useless and to brag, and which ones are real and to teach... the good comes with the bad... Who is that girl is she bi or lesbian in the video???

here is by chief:

lay-reports-suck-vt25900.html

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Yes, I kind of askes her about it because of what James Marshall posted but also because there are lots of guys out there paying too much attention to lay reports and as Hayley explains in the interview you are not going to learn anything from that, each woman is different and each woman reacts different in different situations.
She also talks about seduction and the difference between seduction and pick up AND something that I think is true is the HATE on the pick up industry towards women.

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Winners have simply formed the habit of doing things losers do not like to do 18/03/12

"nobody pays too much attention to lay reports", i disagree with that girl, there is tons of stuff that can be learned, and women are not that different as you may think. I don't know where you got that info. about the hate. I have not seen the hate that you are talking about in my year in the community, maybe 2 to 3 post out of hundreds...I do not like women guru specially lesbian and bi, they have a huge advantage over regular Gamers, since they come under the radar, there is hardly no if any bitch shields, or shit tests etc... Plus they see stuff different from their perspective..Best advise are dudes that get laid a lot.

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Some lay reports are useful, some arnt, most fall someplace in the middle.

People read lay reports for different reasons. Entertainment, inspiration, to learn, ect...

If you don't like them, don't read them.

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I don't read them... I prefer the question threads. I enjoy the advice given - there are some players here with true game.

Just remember - take what works, shitcan what doesn't. There's NO ONE WAY to run game.

But the lay reports, as it's been said, unless they give details about the opener through the close, it's pointless. You got laid? Woohoo... BFD - you're supposed to - if you know what the fuck your'e doing.

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mostly useless except for lols and motivation. The problem is all the details which got the girl to hump you arnt usually going to be reflected by how the author writes up his report. And thus its of limited instructional value to the reader

Do you really think lay reports are good for motivation? I really don't see it like that, I don't understand why a guy writting about how much "sex" -I say "sex" because you will never know if that is true or not- is having. Like Hayley says on the interview it's mostly about bragging, the only real experience comes from going out and trying yourself. You are your own best teacher, you might need guidence but you can't get that from lay reports.

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Winners have simply formed the habit of doing things losers do not like to do 18/03/12

I post lay reports only if they have something new to share with the community or if they illustrate a PU mechanism in a nice way. Apart from that it is all "dont kiss and tell".

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I'm not trying to be a dick Ezo, but you're being a Pick Up Snob in my opinion.

bbardot: you just reminded me about porn

Ok... what do you mean by new? Don't want to disrespect but I think lay reports are quite lame.

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Winners have simply formed the habit of doing things losers do not like to do 18/03/12

Dude. You have already made up your mind. Your not listening to anyone else point of view.

No one is forcing you to read the LRs.

You are also broadening the issue. Sarging and LR are two topics.

You are just being negative.

The LRs from the Chief, and MODs and senior guys are well written and are good for learning. I for one find them inspiring. It is up to you how u use your time, and yes it’s better if you spend time in field.

You are being disrespectful. Yes you think its lame, but u are not acknowledging that is it useful for some people. You also are speaking in absolutes, without giving room for the opinion of others. .

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Meet and Wing.

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The Jackal an Introduction.
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The Field Reports.
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The Lay Reports.
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