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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 6:55 am 
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Ok, this has ZERo to do with me, Im handling myself quite well already had a couple rebounds, got a few more lined up.
This is for my EX. We have 2 kids together. In a nutshell I was in the game over a decade ago, back when usenet, BBB, etc was how it was going down. A group of us had parties 5-6 times a week, threw down something fierce. I had game where a 10 all day long and honestly she may have taken it to an 11 i could hold a 4-5 hour convo all night long without batting an eye. Back when if she had a boyfriend she had a boyfriend, back off, back when the PUA's had morals. Where we'd leave them better then before we found them etc. Well like any other Lair so to speak shit spiraled downhill, just like it ALWAYS does. I saw it coming and out of the blue got setup with a girl from WAY outside my circle etc etc.
Fast forward, during our relationship guys would talkto her or text her whether from work or old friends growning up etc and try to game her. I'd call em out on it and tell her how they were going to play it out, ridiculous how many times I nearly hit it word for word.
Fast forward we split. I could take her falling for the same dumbass shit time and time again having to call em out, being told nah they're just being nice yet being right EVERY FUCKING TIME.

To the main point. She doesnt have much experience in the single world outside of her friend. Her GF is just, well, quite frankly she is every guys dream pickup. Ive seen this girl fall for EVERYTHING, you name a line I've seen her fall for it.
Anyway FOR MY KIDS because quite frankly without them I'd never talk to her again. Im trying to help her stay away from D-Bags. But as usual even though I laid everything out she still thinks im wrong on this guy she is with.

I dont have to get into detail really, i can simply lay out what JUST happened this weekend and let you guys run withit.

Because of her schedule and kids she can only see him friday night, saturday night if she only get 5 hours sleep(fucking retarded as far as Im concerned but thats her choice) Anyway Friday she was talking to him all day, going to come over etc etc. Friday night just before she gets off he tells her not to because his room mate moved out and he's cleaning and tired from work, pissed her off obviously. Saturday she goes over and presses him about it and he admits he had some friends over and they were drinking. He says he didnt want her to see him like that(really?) then pulls the old as dirt, well I havent seen you in a week and barely talked to you LHV. Ill leave it there.

Feel free to lay into this. Honestly she is naive as fuck, she still thinks I was a virgin when i met her, even though yeah Im not gonna get into it and coulda f-closed her within 2 hours if she wasnt on her rag.

She doesnt trust me or anything I say regarding this shit. So I told her I'd get some anonymous responses from people that do exactly that and will probably destroy you're reality.

I have ZERO intention of ever getting back with her. My only dog in this game right now is to keep my kids safe and keep her from getting shit and passing it to the kids(herp, HIV, etc) So dont think its some wierd shit with me trying to destroy her relationships, im not and could not care I have my own shit going for me on multiple levels.


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Not sure what your point is other than your ex has a bad habit of falling for the wrong guy.

That's a pretty big jump to getting your kids infected with a disease.

IMO, back off and let it marinate.

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I was a fireman/medic for 6-7 years, its not as big of a jump as you may think.
If you knew a litle bit about child psycology you'd understand my worry of her dropping into the wrong shit over and over.
I hope for the best for her and hope she finds exactly what shes looking for. In the same breath her being hurt over shit like this constantly is something Id preferre to avoid. I know what I know and want to help her, to keep her out of dumbass shit like this.
Ive essentially put her in the she is my sister catagory, even though we have kids. If that helps.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 7:07 am 
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Honestly she is naive as fuck, she still thinks I was a virgin when i met her, even though yeah Im not gonna get into it and coulda f-closed her within 2 hours if she wasnt on her rag.
Wow, that's some serious wife bashing...in other words, you not only think she's shit now, but you've thought that ever since you started dating...and yet you married her and had kids with her?
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I have ZERO intention of ever getting back with her. My only dog in this game right now is to keep my kids safe and keep her from getting shit and passing it to the kids(herp, HIV, etc) So dont think its some wierd shit with me trying to destroy her relationships, im not and could not care I have my own shit going for me on multiple levels.
I call BS. Your ex-wife is free to date who she chooses, this insn't about her contracting an STD and passing it onto your children (wtf?)...this is about you being pissed off and jealous.

Time to start being more productive, look at your life not at hers.


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No need to preach... you don't know my background, as I don't know yours... You asked - I answered.

Frankly, you're trying to use game to save your kids from her bad mistakes - correct?

Why not just fight for custody and build a case that she's unfit?

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Wow, that's some serious wife bashing...in other words, you not only think she's shit now, but you've thought that ever since you started dating...and yet you married her and had kids with her?
Look at every MAJOR player they always find an "out" she was my out. For reasons I didnt go into detail with, its irrelivent to this. Go play your AMOG shit somewhere else.
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I call BS. Your ex-wife is free to date who she chooses, this insn't about her contracting an STD and passing it onto your children (wtf?)...this is about you being pissed off and jealous.
She's barebacking, if you are that fucking ignorant to see where it can lead, you need to seriously go to a hospital and talk to a professional. 2 in a row that have shit for medical knowledge wow in the PUA community? you think tyler durden or any of these guys wrap up for the fucking hell of it? that cold sore? let her lick her thumb and wipe some candy stickyness from their mouths you dumbass.
Seriously if you guys are that fucking stupid to not understand how shit is transmitted you need to back the fuck up and go talk to someone, because you'r asking for it.


Time to start being more productive, look at your life not at hers.[/quote]
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I've fucked 4 different girls already and have 2 more lined up, I trade stock on a multi 6 figure account, I have my own 4 bedroom house, caddillac escalade, and see my kids 5 outta 7 days a week. Theres nothing wrong with my life right now, i have no fucking qualms. AMOG go ahead, i dont give a fuck. I asked for advice to HER.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 7:21 am 
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If you throw out enough terms... you'll convince some that you know what you're talking about.

Dude, you have anger issues. Check that.

You need to get an attorney to fight for the kids... and a therapist for yourself.

By the way, if you don't want the opinions... you aren't forced to create the thread.

Have a great evening, pumpkin.

Rodeo.

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No need to preach... you don't know my background, as I don't know yours... You asked - I answered.

Frankly, you're trying to use game to save your kids from her bad mistakes - correct?

Why not just fight for custody and build a case that she's unfit?
Sorry I forgot to quote you. Yes there is more to the background between us. The advice wasnt for me, it was for her. I layed it out and was finishing sentences on his responses. I wish I recorded it, you'd understand better.

Im not trying to USE GAME, im trying to get her to understand what is going on in the real world. Again and not to you specifically, she doesnt have much single life experience so she in naive, like a deer in headlights. I could go into GREAT detail and you'd just laugh possibly uncontrollably.

Im not fighting her for custody and she isnt fighting me, because at the end of the day we both agree each is a GREAT parent. Theres not even the slightest doubt about that from either side across all friends/family etc. Outside shit between us theres a different response, but as far as parents we are both great.


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If you throw out enough terms... you'll convince some that you know what you're talking about.

Dude, you have anger issues. Check that.

You need to get an attorney to fight for the kids... and a therapist for yourself.

By the way, if you don't want the opinions... you aren't forced to create the thread.

Have a great evening, pumpkin.

Rodeo.
If i had these anger issues you think I have, or jealousy issues you think i have, then how did I just sit down next to her for OVER 2 hours disscussing this with her?
Again, this isnt for me I can see the train wreck from a mile away, I know how this is about to play out with this guy and its going to fuck up her relationships with other guys that are good for her down the road. If i was so jealous and angry why would I do this? What do I stand to gain? I know my motivations, I cant help it if my forward thinking makes this look stupid and pissed off/jealous to you. thats not my intention. period.
Sit next to a girl you've been with for 8 years and 2 kids with and tell me you can last 2 hours listening to explicit conversations about her and another guy, then come back here and tell me I have anger issues.


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No offense.... but I have no idea what it is you're really asking then... and no longer have the patience to find out.

I do wish you well.

I'm out.

Rodeo.

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No offense.... but I have no idea what it is you're really asking then... and no longer have the patience to find out.

I do wish you well.

I'm out.

Rodeo.
Its very simple.
Guy she knew growing up, been sleeping with for a month on the weekends when she could, blew her off after talking all day that he couldnt wait for her to come over. saying he had to clean and was tired after his roommate supposedly moved out. Admitted to it being a lie, that he had people over for a party and didnt want her over to see him drinking. Turned it around on her and said it was because he hadnt seen her in a week so he wasnt sure what was going on. (30-45min drive to his place.)
Simple enough there?


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Dude... calm down. Move on.

Get custody if you think she's going to give your kids an std.

If she's a great parent where's the problem?


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Dude... calm down. Move on.

Get custody if you think she's going to give your kids an std.

If she's a great parent where's the problem?
Again 0/3 on directing it to HER, HEEEERRRRRR.

She just got a test today and is clean I have ZERO belief she would even intentionally do it.
Again her going bareback on this guy, that apparently you PUA cant even see, the same game you're running; being run here is beyond me. Ok think of hmmm you're a teenager and you're dad is giving you advice. You wont listen unless multiple other people from outside point it out? Does that make sense?

Again Im not going after custody, its plain and simple, NOT HaPPENING. Should something chang down the road maybe I will. but right now im sitting in what normally the girls seat, why in gods name would I ruin that?

We are FRIENDS, we HAVE TO BE, theres no way around it without it being a detriment to the kids. period.

We've laughed and joked about the different quirks of other people behind closed doors. OK? FFSIm literally up 4-1 WTF do I have to even remotely be jealous about?

HER relationship with this guy, HER, FOR HER, WE TALKED ABOUT IT SHE WANTED OTHER OPINIONS COULDNT BELIEVE ME.


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This topic really makes no sense. Just test your children monthly if you're scared they're getting deseases.


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some people just refuse to understand, that harm does not just come from bad people, harm can often result from even the best intentions.

the way i see it, you are afraid for her because of things she obviously dose not see.
you have tried to talk to her but she misses the point, or doesn't understand why its a big deal.

Correct?

have you tried telling her that before anyone should be allowed to ride her unwrapped they should have to prove to her that they have no STD's with a test, and that she shouldn't just take there word for is as many people dont even know they are carrying one. (its remarkable how many people dont know how easily STD can be spread)

beyond that maybe the best thing for her is to find out herself that she is being played.

or you could right down every warning you tell her then when enough of them are proved true give here the entire list, so she will take your advice more seriously, after all everyone hears lots of advice from everyone constantly every day, but when its written down in front of them and can count the warnings they did not heed it has an all together different impact than a vocalized "i told you so"
Note: this is kind of a low blow as it needs to be done while the wound is raw, and i do not recommend it, as it will probably damage your relationship

but one should be made aware of all the options


about the "i dont want you to see me drunk" that may mean exactly what you think, and he had a girl over, or it may have just been him and some old friends catching up, or he could be an angry drunk and doesn't want to hurt her.

but Remember Its her choice who she trusts, you can not decide who to trust for her


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