So I'm feeling rather depressed this evening, (although I learned a lot). I'm at an awesome free-thinkers conference full of intelligent people. People who I should have tons in common with, but for some reason I feel out of place; I'm not sure why.

I came and saw some amazing speakers, but I really feel like the drive wasn't exactly worth it, and I feel like I should have stayed in Chicago.

My concern is this; I close pretty frequently, more frequently than most average guys, and I'm always able to set aside my AA and Game like a pro.

Tonight was different. Maybe it was all in my head; but when I went to approach here, I felt like the women I was gaming were "on to me" for the lack of a better phrase. Like I was intimidated, or psyched myself out. I felt like I was hard to talk about cool stuff with them. I felt so AFC. Asking stupid shit like "what do you think of the conference?", "who's you're favorite speaker?". Petty obvious conversation starters that EVERY one of the damn nerds there was asking. These are the girls I'd DATE. Not sleep with, DATE. The ones I want. Investors, entrepreneurs, women who are bright, and intelligent and full of life. I consider myself very to be very intelligent (as many of us do), and that's part of the reason I'm here with you guys! But I felt almost afraid to game them.

But while this was kind of irritating me...some fucking asswad (whom I spoke with earlier) was successfully chatting up the hottest girl in the place. Now usually this wouldn't bother me; I know that the best looking guy doesn't always take the girl, or else this would all be a waste of time, lol. But this guy was incredibly socially awkward, and just uncomfortable to talk to (I'd spoken with him for a while earlier). Like what the hell?! He wasn't attractive in ANY sense.

So, approaching smart girls. Any thoughts??

Approaching smart girls is absolutely no different than approaching those of lesser intelligence. I've dated numerous intelligent women and have gamed them with the same technique used on women with significantly lower intellect.

You let your head get the best of you and it spoiled your game.

The fundamentals never change (eye contact, confident body language, and charismatic smile) regardless of the target's characteristics, be them visual or mental. The only variance in the interaction occurs towards the middle of the comfort building stage when you begin to establish rapport with one another. Rapport = trust + comfort. For intelligent women, comfort comes from knowing that the you're an equally intelligent man.

Looking back on my experiences, I can honestly say that some of my easiest sets have been with remarkably intelligent women. I've found that these women typically lack sexual/romantic experience. This causes them to create reasons as to why you're a viable option. I've found that they end up creating justifications for being with you. You literally couldn't ask for a better setup.

Sounds like you just had an off night. So what? It happens.

The problem isn't really about what happened or how did the dork manage to chat up a hot chick, the problem is you're getting down on yourself. Give yourself a break! You had a shit night, everyone has them, you'll do better next time.

I think you psyched yourself out because all these women were supposedly so "intelligent". They're just women dude. Better luck next time!

just have to let go, why do you care about what some other guy is doing?

what exactly do you mean by you thought they were ''on to you''?

this seems like it is some serious buisness for you, do you get any enjoyment out of hitting on women?

Well it drove me nuts that the weird guy did so well (and I probably should have made this point earlier) was because I felt like I was the only one there who was an extrovert. It was the strangest thing. It seemed like whenever I would deviate from the topic of the conference with most of the people there, that they would get uncomfortable with whatever I was speaking about and not enjoy the conversation. Usually when I go to a conference or anything devoted to one topic, it does well to talk about something else since every other person they talk to will be asking the same questions about the event. I like being fun, I like being friendly and all alpha. It just felt like all of the "fun" qualities I had were undesirable to most of the people (not just women) who I spoke to.

So I guess what I mean by "on to me" (was probably the wrong terminology) was that they viewed my conversations and friendliness like I had some "agenda" during my talk with them. I always try to avoid having some agenda, I'd rather just do well during the interaction and let it take it's "natural" course, but EVERYONE acted like I was up to something.

And of course, I love women and the art of seduction. Haha, or I wouldn't be registered with all my friends here.

**It's probably worth mentioning that I got several numbers on the last day of the conference after I reassessed my situation .

I remember listening to Sinn (on an interview with Adam I think) and he said that approaching and hitting up is the thing, and if you get caught up with nothing to talk about its cool to talk about AFC stuff like "where you are from?" or "what do you do". once you do this your energy flows and then you get back all the sophisticated stuff to surface eventually.

Even if you're a hot PUA, if you are in a new environment and still do not know anybody, or feel a bit out of place than guess what...it effects your confidence and makes you sound like an AFC. that's true! so the key is nesting around and creating good communication with the new people and ladies around you.

sophisticated girls are same as dumb girls just that there is more verbal usage you can bring in, and various things to talk about.
all in all it comes down to the interest and teasing you do.
A good tip will be to always flirt, even if it's a hot sophisticated girl. that can get you in anytime with small efforts...

now conferences are good places to make the initial touch and then meet up later at the bars, parties and hotel parties around.
same structure, as day 1,2 etc...

that's my take about conferences with smart girls. they may be smart, but they like a good flirt and a guy who can bring on good times as well.

tell a smart girl shes pretty
tell a pretty girl shes smart

Nice adage, but not to be taken literally...never tell a girl she's smart or pretty as these types of compliments are too generic, they don't make her feel special, they make you look less genuine.

My rule about compliments is, first of all I don't hand them out like candy. Secondly, a compliment should be real and it should be specific, it should make her realize that you actually saw something good in her that makes her think, "this guy gets me and values my virtuous qualities."

so if a girl is seeking validation basically by sending u a picture of herself, u dont compliment? i dont understand. can u give a few examples?

If she tries to force a compliment, by asking "how do I look?" or some other less direct way, I would try to give a complimenet if it was in the form of a neg or a joke, or I might give a compliment on the way she has dressed (which doesnt directly tell her that you think she herself is beautiful, so she takes it as a compliment, but it doesnt go to her head).

In general compliments give her power and take power from you. Before the compliment, she doesn't know if you're impressed...so she'll try to impress you. And if its not working, she'll think that you must have better options, which means that you're better than her, which makes her want you more.

After the compliment, she knows she's impressed you, so she doesn't really need to try anymore, and you've also demonstrated where your quality threshold is. A girl knows what she looks like, if she's a 6 and you tell her she looks hot, she now knows that you think 6's are hot, which means that you don't consider yourself good enough for 10's, which means that you must be only good enough for 6's, which means that you yourself are a 6...which means she can probably do a little better. This is sort of how girl's rate guys, which is obviously completely different from the appearance based rating a guy would give.

If you're going to compliment her appearance, don't compliment her physical features...instead compliment the way she has dressed, her style, etc. This makes her feel like you value her sense of style, which makes her feel that you think alike and have something in common. Same with any more obvious personality compliment, but always be specific. Never say, "youre smart, youre beautiful, youre honest, youre kind"...but you can say, "wow, the way you did XYZ really shows what a caring person you are"...again, this makes them think that you understand her and value her, she wil glow from it, and she'll associate this feeling of goodness with you, making her want to be around you more.

Complimenting smart girls is like giving a puppy a treat for learning a new trick. make her earn it.

I like smart chicks better. They are easy to role play with (kino escelation). They're easy to text-play with (I build fantasy role-play text scnearios with chicks all the time).

I use statements like "If a lady can challenge my mind - then she'll continue to garner my attention" It's complete common sense bullshit - but that's not the point. To her, she hears "I only want someone who can actually talk and listen, and call me out when I need it"...she starts to instantly subliminally see herself in that role. With a single bullshit statement, you trigger the inner-conversation her brain has.

Additionally, if she's new to the dating scene (I'm in my mid-40's... so that's also a target demographic for me), and intelligent - game works amazingly well. You become the intelligent, well-mannered, edgy, funny guy who has a dark side she's damned interested in locating... She'll want to make bad decisions - you paint the picture to become the bad decision she does....

That's it... I'm inspired. I'm going downtown to run game at lunch tomorrow...

Rodeo.

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