Cheers!

Following situation: i flirted with a really hot girl on facebook around august 2011...after the third message where we both exchanged compliments, i asked her out..it turned out she has a boyfriend, which i didnt know beforehand. i said that i respected that and we left it there sayin that she hopes we bump into each other at some stage.

upon looking at her profile in more depth i realised that she seems to have a long distance (really loooooooong distance) relationship since 1-2 years maybe.

from that day onwards she would "like" pictures that i upload of myself (do that rarely) or stuff i upload in general on a very irregular basis..so at some stage i responded by sending her a message and making a cocky compliment at some stage..

3 weeks ago another "i like" on one of my uploaded pictures and today another one for a video where i can be seen..

i know that an "i like" isnt a big deal, its just that she knows why i hit on her, compliments have been exchanged and we dont chit chat on a friend zone type basis, so these signs of interest strike me as odd given that she seems happy on pictures that she uploads where she can be seen together with her guy..

i know she will be at a club this weekend due to a facebook entry visible on her page..i was thinking of going there to "bump into her" in person...on the other side, wouldnt it be better let this go and only persue this in the event of us both being single at some stage?

i`m undecisive...help me out guys!

What if she's only holding on this guy because she's waiting for someone better to come along? What if they're already on the complete brink of destruction? What if he's a terrible boyfriend who mistreats her?

Whether she has a boyfriend or not is irrelevant. If you like the girl and you want a shot with her, then you need to proceed with the game as you would with any other girl.

"Bump into her" and hit her with your "A" game. Whatever you do, do not mention anything about her boyfriend, or you two only hanging out when you're both single. Quit contemplating and just do it.

Why would you want to go out with a girl who flirts with other guys while she has a boyfriend?

You're thinking with your cock, not your head. This girl is bad news and if she is willing to cheat on him then she will be willing to cheat on you, you can guarantee it.

Move on dude, there are literally hundreds of millions of single beautiful women out there, as long as you're wasting time and energy on this infatuation, you're cutting yourself off from that.

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"Listen Isabelle." Put your hand on her shoulder then move it to her lower back and get close to her ear. "You are very sexy and I don't want your boyfriend, I want you."

Walk away. Come back later.

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lmfao - what movie is that out of?

Yeah you're right, what do I know. You get laid 24/7.

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Don't get on one knee for a girl that won't get on two for you.

Hey man. Sounds like she's into you.

Don't bother with the ethics stuff. You aren't (or at least shouldn't be) looking for a relationship here, (once a cheater, always a cheater) but there is a great opportunity for a fun time. And you may not even damage their relationship!

Just go to the club to have fun, look for other targets, try to make things happen, but as soon as you see this girl, go tunnel vision.

Focus in on her. Go caveman (if you know that term) and touch the hell out of her. If she's with friends, the first move is to get her isolated from her friends. You could say "Holy shit its so good to see you! Lets go over here and talk for a second."

Once you've moved her, Vin DiCarlo's escalation ladder is a good resource, but I can simplify the tactic for you. Touch her back, then her hands, then her waist, then her face, then kiss. This can happen over the course of thirty minutes or five, but the sooner you get to a kiss, the better.

IF she says no to your isolation attempt, don't give up! She isn't comfortable enough to be isolated, or she doesn't want her friends to see it happen. Find a girl to dance with for a little while, let this girl get used to the feel of the club, then after you've danced with someone else, go dance with her. If her friends are around, don't try to kiss, but escalate subtly. If her friends are not around, go for the gold. After dancing, isolate and close further.

Follow Slip's advice - to the letter.

Great post dude.

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thanks for the advice so far!

yeah, i know she is attracted, i just dont get why she would be uploading pics of her and her boyfriend seeming happy..someone who is unhappy wouldnt do that..

and i`m not just looking for a lay, i want to get to know her properly and thus i`m not sure these are the right circumstances...?...

Then dance with her, escalate some (this should work to the rhythm of the music), make the mood sexual, but don't do anything more than brushing your lips on the top of her ear.

Then leave her, and go find another girl. She needs to see you hooking up with another girl to create a jealousy plotline.

Do you have her number yet? If not, number close her there.

Then text her the next day saying "Last night was fun" hopefully with some inside joke imbedded. After a couple of texts, stop responding.

And then get ready to wait a long time for her to break up with her boyfriend. This could be anywhere from a month to a year of waiting. There is no way to hurry up this process.

Basically what you've done with this advice is set yourself up as a hard-to-get romantic interest. She will be willing to go on a date with you when she's single.

Slip'n'slide I normally like your posts on here but I have to admit I was a bit dissapointed with this one.

Why encourage someone to be a hypocrite and a villain. Is any piece of ass really worth sacrificing your self-respect and your diginity?

If you don't draw the line here then you can't really draw the line anywhere, if another man's girlfriend is fair game then why shouldn't your best friends sister be? Why shouldn't a prostitute be fair game?

They all share the same end of the moral shame compass, at least for anyone with any dignity and pride.

I would rather have another good deed to my name than another notch on my bedpost, not because I am superior, or perfect, or trasncendant but simply because when I look in the mirror every morning I can like the person who is staring back at me.

What some of you don't realize is that the whole reason you came on here was because you wanted to lead happier lives; you believe that by becoming pick up artists and players that you will find happiness and contentment in your lives.

Well take it from me, I did become a lot happier once I became a talented seducer of beautiful women but the results weren't what made me happy. What made me happy was knowing that I am capable of doing great things with my life and that I am a better person as a result of my hard work.

Some of you are no doubt thinking, what a soft-cock preaching to me about right and wrong and happiness etc. And I don't blame any of you who think that because when I was a miserable bastard who would do anything for a shag I felt the same way about guys who told me I should strive to be a better person.

But it's the truth, find contentment and confidence in yourself and in your life and women will open their legs for you like never before, it wont be because of some 'trick' you've heard on the internet, it will be because you are a genuinely attractive likeable person who others respect and admire.

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slipnslide- the idea of meeting her to plant the seed for the future isnt bad! its just that even without doing that now, she definitely would go out on a date in the event of a break up. the only purpose of doing this now is to accelerate the process in the sense of showing her that the grass might be greener on the other side.

i think what she is doing is flirting and showing interest in a way that could be deemed acceptable in a relationship as she isnt getting in direct contact with a message. i dont think she will want to jump ships as of now. the problem of seeing ger now also might be that i might get into the problem of having to fight of the notion of seeing me as a friend that she just finds attractive until the break up which might be a hassle.

the trouble with the clubbing is that its a lesbian clubbing there will be some guys around, so its ok if i`m there, i just wont be able to game other girls, cant go down that ally there...lol

I agree with you Kieran about the true source of pickup-related happiness. Closing sets is all fun and what not, but the true happiness of it lies with knowing that you can accomplish your goals and that you don't need the attention of any woman.

However we differ in opinion about the ethics of sleeping with a woman who is already in a relationship. I urge you to remember that personal ethics are in fact that, personal. As individuals, we each craft our own standard of ethics based on our life experiences and the opinions of those close to us. What you may consider morally acceptable, I may evaluate as unmoral. While you don't think it's acceptable to sleep with a woman who's in a relationship, I have absolutely no qualms with it. I can see myself in that mirror and still love the man in the reflection. Under no conditions however will I sleep with a friend's ex, but there are a lot of guys out there who will, and that's ok.

You shouldn't judge people because they don't share your same morals. As a leader its your role to advise game, not challenge ethics. It's up to the OP to decide for himself as to what's wrong and what isn't. Only experience will allow him to do so.

You can absolutely game girls at a lesbian club. Some of my hottest girlfriends have been bi. Hell just last week I was at a bar and overheard a group of Bieber-looking lesbians talking about how they were looking for a man to use sexually. Broaden your horizons, accept the challenge, and have fun.

Evidently you don't seeing as you post here about as often as there are minutes in the day.

Your stories are fucking hilarious though, you should sell your fiction to penthouse forum.