I was having a conversation today with a friends girlfriend. I know, talking to girls about girls. Mistake. Anyway, she mentioned leagues to me. That a girl will only date a guy two numbers below her max. She wouldnt say what number I was, of course, but said I should try for 5s or 6s since I do not have much dating experience. Does anyone here buy into leagues or do you see that as a disqualifier women use?

No.. No such thing as leagues.

As long as you are able to get in there ( Conversation and Hanging out ) Then there is a chance you can be with that girl even if she is a 10 and you are a 5.

But you need to also understand that not everyone will like you.. People will even hate you for no reason at all.

~Goodluck , Shy~

Leagues are bullshit psychological tricks used to stung your upward mobility.

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"Simple. Escalate, if she's into you, she will escalate with you, if not, you will know soon enough." - SexAddict911

No it's really interesting to talk about girls with other girls. It's a good thing to do.
She gave you your number indirectly. You're worth mediocre girls.
Leagues do exist. But by being a high-value person you can take steps on this invisible ladder.

Thank you. I can always count on this place as being a bubble of sanity when girls try to eff with my head. I was feeling down about my lack of success in the online game and let it get too me.

Was going to disagree until you said this.
Well said.

it is completely subjective to the girl, that is her subjective opinion, she personally will not date a guy she deems 2 points below her, and what she deems as the equivalent to her in looks, and what she deems two points below her, is entirely subjective to her personally

people are people, and you are as attractive as you are attractive, you can fuck a 10 the same way you can fuck a 2, they just have to want to have sex with you, some generalization some girl makes about some random universal truth is impossible, as different people value different traits in the opposite sex,

one guy might be a 10 himself in looks, but only want to date fat girls, what does that mean?

one girl might not care how you look at all, only how tall you are, one girl might only care about how much money you make, another might only be willing to have sex with supermodel guys and willing to die a virgin if she can not do so, totally subjective to the person, and what they value in the opposite sex