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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:50 am 
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I would like to build a list of fresh indirect openers for day game. I have 1 so far but it works all the time and it goes like this:
"Let me get your quick opinion on something, do you think paranormal activity is based on reality or fiction, i am asking because i saw the movie yesterday and me and my friend have been debating on it so what do you think?"
add what you have proven to work not what you think works


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 8:00 am 
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I would like to build a list of fresh indirect openers for day game. I have 1 so far but it works all the time and it goes like this:
"Let me get your quick opinion on something, do you think paranormal activity is based on reality or fiction, i am asking because i saw the movie yesterday and me and my friend have been debating on it so what do you think?"
add what you have proven to work not what you think works
Asking opinion openers during the day is really strange.

It's not a bar or a club.

If you're stopping a random girl on the street, it's better to be clear about why you're stopping her - i.e. because you find her attractive and want to meet her.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 1:55 pm 
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yes the idea of asking an opinion in the street sounds strange but any reason to ask that opinion is enough of a reason, it is called a root. also i use a preopener like what time is it, or something very simple like the weather is nice. I come off as saying what was in my mind at that instant, i am sure of this because a women told me and in the day is were i learned why opinion openers work, its because they are engaging. add below.

I have tryed direct aproaches like complemeting on their tattoo, on their purse, on their hair, on their boots and I realized complementing is to easy to do so everybody must be doing it. i just get a smile and a thank you which is good but it isnt engaging. it isn't enough to continue the conversation and you have to follow up with something else or it dies there. I know a way to follow up by using "Ivd" for example "you look like a student" or "you look like you just came from work" then i can generate more in conversation.

using situational openers(these work sometimes when i can think of something to follow up quickly). i think the problem with direct openers is that it is difficul to be engaging unless you can follow up with something.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 10:23 am 
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i always do day game with a wing,

we either do:

- opinion openers (ex. hey would (insert friends name) look gay with a stretch?

in the case of opinion openers we walk by them while discussing the subject so they hear we were actualy discussing it.

- random funny things like " hey have u seen my squirrel? it's about this size, wears a red scarf and a hat and listens to the name robbert. Might it be that there is a nut shop nearby?

of course these are dependent on your delivery and makes clear if the HB is a fun person or not.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 10:52 am 
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indirect is really inefficient during the daytime, the girls are not in party mode and often have something to do, being indirect about why you are trying to meet them so that you have time to build attraction before showing interest will not be as effective for you as just opening with a statement that reveals your intent, you will be more likely to get better results, and you don't have to think of fake stories that have nothing to do with anything, leaving her thinking, why the fuck is this guy talking to me?,

even with a time constraint and hiding your intent with a root, doesn't matter, she is not looking for someone to talk to and it comes off weird (shows a lack of social intelligence), at a bar or club she is there to socialize so indirect works great as she has no where to be and it seems normal that someone would strike up a conversation for no reason besides he had an opinion and he is going to leave in a second, but he just wants to know cause his buddy jus....

keep it simple, just address the situation between the two of you, tell her you thought she was (insert what you thought of her physical appearance), and you wanted to come meet her, then start getting to know her

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 7:08 am 
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I've come to realize from many aproaches in day game that it does not matter what you say as long as it engages the other person. Maybe opinion openers are not the best during day game but they have worked, also it doesn't have to be an opinion opener, it can be any other, complement, situational, anything.

Mystery once wrote the field will give you the answers you seek. asking for the time, saying how's it going, what time does the bus get here, or anything like that gets you a one answer response. its progress. next follow up with something engaging like:
hows it going are you visiting (City)?
really were from blablabla

what time does the bus get here?
ok im just making sure cause im going for a job interview, you look like your heading to work are you a lawyer? (and continue)

conversation should flow naturally and show personality and (keep the ball rolling I'm refering to talking)

let me hear conversation starters you guys use, forget about my first post, I have been to superficial in the beggining and consumed in theory.

experience is the best teacher


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 7:23 pm 
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Direct the way forward

I usually use "hey i just saw you eye fucking me"

or

"hey you looked cute so i had to come and talk to you"

or

"Hey i saw you from over there and i saw you're (whatever you saw) and i had to talk to you"

or

(if they look un happy or even if they look happy wteva)
"Hey i saw you from over there and because you looked like you were having such a gd day i had to come and speak to you"


etc...


etc....

Use direct its easy to go on from there... and youre down to the point and they dont walk on as well with direct..... you also immediately dhv cos its so confident

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 8:42 am 
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I agree with Ryan and ryry. Direct is the best method for day game. Where I live, alot of the girls are snobby and to pull them up in the street and do the opinions opener would crash and burn. If you're sitting at a bus stop or something it makes it easier, but if its some girl who is on the fly, i've had most success with simply saying "Sorry miss but you're just gorgeous. I just had to come over and meet you". If she's worth talking to she'll smile and look flattered and a little embarassed but from here you can shift into a routine.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 5:04 pm 
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This is the one that works best for me...
me- "hey, do you mind if I ask where you got your purse?"
hb- "I got it at target"
me- "really? Are you sure it was that purse you got a target"
hb- "yeah"
me- "I knew it! I had the suspicion my girlfriend has been lying to me. She said she got the same bag in a small specialty shop in Europe." Later in the conversation say something about your having your doubts about the relationship due to the suspicion of lying. It's been 100% to continue the conversation, I don't always attempt to close these women. One thing to add is, I am attempting to get away from the planned openers though.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 6:31 pm 
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Meggisonj... or wteva you;'re name is .

Thats not true though it is it .... that story isnt the same for everyone so it wont be true.....


I think you have to calibrate in sets, withopeners and everything

only say what you see and hear

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