Hey guys.

So a lot of my friends head on over to pubs/bars etc to go drinking and they invite me to come as well. More often than not I would join them (they know I don't drink) and it gets really boring and annoying watching them buy rounds whilst i sit and watch them get drunk off their ass.. So i've stopped joining them.

Anyway, i have heard and read that a lot of guys meet girls at bars. I, my self, have been hit whilst at a bar. Really cut girl bought me a drink (told her i don't drink alcohol which was awkward for her haha)

My question is, where can I meet women without going to a f-ing pub or bar. My luck being a shitty as it is, most of the girls I come into contact are around the uni area and the ones I hit on end up having a boyfriend...

For those wondering why I don't drink. I don't need it, don't really like it, don't like the effects of it either. Do I have anything against people who do drink? No never, i have been out with plenty of girls that drink (some casual and some to crazy levels)

I don't really see why you can't enjoy yourself at a bar or meet women there without drinking. You can still talk to people.

But you can always do daygame parks, shops, coffee shops, gyms the list is endless

I agree 100% I can and have enjoyed my self at a bar without drinking.

The problem is, if i take a girl to a bar and she drinks (and i don't) she'll begin to be very suspicious, this is taking into account i tell her beforehand that I don't drink. (which is stupid crazy!)

Me not drinking alcohol has always been a barrier between me and most of the girls I ask out. Other girls actually taking a liking to the fact that I don't drink, but that's just one of those rare occasions.


Anyway, thanks a bunch for the reply. Appreciate it!

I have 2 beers or so when i go to bars usually. My wingman doesn't drink at all, and he does great! I have never seen someone that picks women more than he does! You can tell the girls that you don't drink because you like to take care of your body or you play a lot of sports.. or any shit really ! It depends how you act about drinking really! They might respect you for that
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Kimpa is right, dont act all wussy about explaining why u dont drink. You dont have to explain urself to these girls/anyone! They are just trying to put a frame on u. Respond by putting a frame on them, or saying "Yeye, whatever, so anyway: blablabla" and going on to the next subject.

I never really saw my self as being a wuss for answering I question, but you are right. I didn't think about the idea of them putting a frame on me! puts things into perspective. Thanks.

Kimpa, your wingman sounds ace!

If you feel awkward that you are drinking as you explain it to a girl you are interacting with ... she will feel awkward about it.

If you feel like it is not a big deal that you don't drink ... the girl will feel like it is not a big deal.

What ever you feel she will feel. The basics of game is to put your state in the state you want the girl to be in. If you want her to have fun ... put yourself in a fun state ... if you want to arouse her ... be horny and she will be horny ... if you make your no drinking a big deal ... she will make it a big deal.

If she does make a big deal out of it ... and you stay icy (be non reactive or just laugh it off) ... the attraction she will feel for you will significantly increase!

Since I go out almost everyday ... I don't drink because that would make me an alcoholic :p. I had this problem before and simply fixed it by not making it a big deal ^_^.

Man, consider not drinking a good thing. Lot's more advantage of not drinking when drinking ... for example ... durr .... getting the whisky dick ...

The only limitations are the ones you imagine ....

Sincerely,

Donston

LOL, if you act like a horny rabbit she will not get horny!! Don't force things! but you have a good point there about influencing people! You can easily make people feel okay about what you are doing by simply not making a big deal of it and acting is if it is completely natural!
KimPa

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I don't see why you couldn't sarge in a bar sober as well. If anything, it'll give you an advantage to talk clear without the distraction of being drunk. No one ever framed a pua to gulp a sixpack, four shots and knock a girl off with breath alone whilst trying to seduce her. Yes, it might come up as a Q why don't you drink but that knowledge gives you the upper hand of knowing you need to escalate fast. Think of some clever come-back/oneliner (maybe something from JayWa's tease topic somewhere in this forum). Don't linger long on not drinking, say something and then just move on with the talk.

PS: most of that "i've got a bf" is nonsense and defense mechanism. look up JayWa's topic for some good come backs for those too

good stuff guys! really grateful!

I'll take all of the advice into consideration. More often than not, when i go to bars its with a group of friends (both guys and girls) so most of the time with these guys its buying shots all round (except for me, i joke and do a soda/juice shot )

I like the idea of feeling how I would want the girl to feel.

@Hawke91 - the bf thing comes up in a convo i.e me and the girl are talking about something completely unrelated to relationships and not flirtatious in the least and she says something like "well my boyfriend got me into this type of music" etc

(story of my life...)

The last girl I met (in the sense of pickup/dating) that didn't drink (except for like 1 or 2 drinks the entire night from social pressure) was at, ironically, a bar. I guess her friend dragged her there because she thought it was the best or only way for her single friend to meet men.

To answer your question, though: everywhere.