There's this girl I'm completely obsessed with. Met her around 4 months ago and asked her out after just a week and she said that she just exited a relationship and wasn't ready to move on. I was a bit skeptical though because she appeared to be with this guy I know, a friend of mine actually, but I wasn't exactly sure and I didn't care if she had a boyfriend I would still fight for her, but she just said she wasn't ready to move on so I trusted her. Now, however, those two are together - I don't know since when and I don't know how serious it is, but they are together. The thing is they broke up last week, only for two days cause then they got back together; and apparently she ended it citing that it wasn't really going to work in the long run, but then got back together I dont know why though.

This girl is very hard to game. She likes to become friends, then good friends, then more than friends, and thats why she is with this guy. Their relationship is not official I think, but everyone knows they're together, and everyone is like why? because they know her and they know him and they know that it just wouldnt work, but for some reason she decided to be with him because she trusted him. She's one of those girls who gets really close to someone and forms a relationship based on trust and honesty. Good looks, higher value, all those things that attract a girl doesnt work on her.

Here's my dilemma, and sorry for the long story. I still want her, and I know that if she was with me it would work, it would last, she'd see that it was good for the long run which is what I want. But first I need to break them up and then I need to make her go for me, but I don't want to, and I think it is the wrong move to, to break them up because I want her to go for me. Even though she knows I like her, and this may be in her mind when I go about it, she can't think I'm breaking them up because I want to be with her. In all honesty, breaking them up I think is kind of easy because, as I said, she needs honesty and respect and the guy she is with isn't completely honest with her. He lies, and he's different when she's around/not around; and this by itself I think would be enough to break them up.

I don't know exactly how to proceed. How do I break them up, and then when she is single how do I approach her?

If he's your friend, why would you try to break them up?

But that aside, you should really stay away from her for a bit. You don't want to get caught up in this confusing mess. Even if she does break up with him, it would be dangerous for you to pursue her so quickly. You'd probably just end up being the rebound guy and you'd have the risk of her cheating on you with him since it seems like she can't make up her mind on what she wants.

Go find someone else for now, remain friends with her, and once the smoke clears you can go back to her if you aren't with someone else at that point.

Here is what you do.... get your head out of the sand, realize she doesn't like and never will, partly because your being needy around her. Next, go meet some women.

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Chris, attracting women is funny. If you show an inordinate amount of interest in them, they will be turned off by you. If you show a lack of interest in them, they will often become frustrated, give up, and move on to somebody more receptive.

If you're somewhere in between, they will be intrigued and likely more receptive to your advances. Why? You're approaching them from a frame of desirability (in other words, not demonstrating neediness which is an indicator of one having options - we all typically want things that are demand, it drives up their subjective value).

I didn't have to read your post, but by virtue of you stating she's 'the one', I could sense fail written all over this.

You got oneitis bro. Either sacrifice your friendship with your friend by trying to fuck her or find a new girl.

Yes, I said fuck her. If you want to get a girl, you have to want to fuck her above all.

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