Hey. The approach I take to this sort of thing is...to know EXACTLY what provokes the desired reaction.
I'm going to be doing field experiments and measuring types of people that stand in certain places in a room, in certain sized groups, wear certain clothes and stand in certain ways...so you know who to approach in the first few seconds of entering a room.
I'll then test drive openers and analyse reactions to their sentences to see the perfect mix in exact situation....
If you're interested, I'm always interested in new ideas of how to go about this! I want to measure exactly what works in each situation you could come across, make things properly foolproof. All people are, are just...numbers, and possibilities, waiting for you to make the right calculation and get the right outcome.
It's all a science game. I'll post some of my theories later xxx

Love it.

Every girl needs a (slightly) different approach!
There are a LOT of things you can vary so I'm just gonna wait and see.

I don't want to discourage, or demotivate you... But I really think this is a waste of time. It's your time, so do whatever you would like with it, but let me explain...

I'll start my explanation with a question... do you think that a real player would get the same results with the same sentences as you? Of course not. And that's because what you say in the opening(and generally) is far less important than how you say it. If you really can make a representative statistics on your entire communication, you deserve a PhD in communications. In which case, you possibly wouldn't need this shit in the first place.

Also...why is it good to make things foolproof? Just why? I don't want my lines to be foolproof. I don't need it. And you don't need it either. You will realise anyways that no matter what you do, you'll NEVER be able to get EVERY girl, therefore, it is unnecessary trying to make a game plan, that is completely flawless, and that it is a better strategy to try eliminating YOUR flaws one by one.

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I don't want to do this sort of thing purely to seduce...x I'm interested in human behaviour, psychology etc. Pick up is just the most fascinating thing for that. I want to find out more about it, and sciencing it up means you can apply it to other situations too.
I know you can probably do that just with lots of practice, but...I don't have the oppurtunity to practice right now, there's nowhere to go out where I live, small country town. If I could work out how to calculate people by just looking at them...well, you can control everybody around you. Controlling girls is just the start xxxxx What if you could get any job you want by behaving exactly right in the interview? Make people come round to your point of view in an argument...make people think you're great? I'm sure MPUA's can do that already but...hey, this is just another possible method.
I really don't get people. I mean I do in ways but...not in others. And studying pick up is the first step to understanding behaviour.

Oh, and of course how you say things is more important than how you say it. I meant just how you open, I didn't say it right.

The problem with this theory is you aren't taking into consideration how each woman is different. Every woman has a different type and response curve, two huge ordeals in the attraction process. I've written about both of them in my blog.

Experiments are about constants and limiting variables. You can't do that with humans in the attraction process because you don't know what will work with every woman without understanding attraction, gauging her interest level, building attraction in the right doses, and sexual tension.

If you want to understand the science of courtship, study it but don't act like you can get any woman. I have studied it very closely. I understand the science of attraction, courtship, and escalation. I write about it a lot and constantly look for new perceptions to add to my own. I have it down to pretty easy to the point where all I have to do is react properly to her responses but it is not like there is one formula to success. You can't do the same thing with every woman, everything is about timing and responding properly. http://showyourmind.wordpress.com/2012/ ... able-pace/

I highly recommend you do the research so you can interpret what your results mean rather than just fail sometimes and not others.

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Thanks for the help.
Of course every girl needs a different response. But I'm trying to identify what types of person meet what types of responses....I know every girl is different and you can only quantify to a certain level.
It's not just attraction though, generally in conversations you can use this scientifically identifying responses stuff.
I'm not quite there yet, I know i know. I'm just trying to identify what exactly I want to do....so don't be quick to criticise ya'll x
P.S. I may or may not actually be a girl. I'm not trying to manipulate or work out how men work or anything bitchy, it's just this is a great great place for studying behaviour.

Well even a woman's type change within her own cycle and mood. When she is close ovulation or ovulating she appreciate men with a more masculine face and features. When she isn't ovulating or close to ovulation she is attracted to a more feminized face. That is just her physical type.

Her type during certain moods means she would prefer a guy be more or less intimate. This is why it is so important to read body language and become the responsive male.

I don't care whether you are actually a woman, most women have no clue why or what attracts them. Most women have no clue why something works on them, or don't believe a good portion of this information in the PUA community would work. Hell most women have zero understanding of their cycle, when they can get pregnant, etc.

Are you bi/gay? Is that how you are testing out what we all want? Or are you going to state your opinion on behalf of all the information we state? Opinions are useless in attraction, we don't always understand why we are attracted, so our opinion of what attraction is merely are thoughts of what we think attracts us.

I love the study of behavior as well, during courtship and not during courtship. I am a huge fan of body language. I have studied behavior from several different perspectives and while the bulk of my knowledge is body language based, I know a fair amount about many other things as well.

I'm coming across very brutal but to me after everything I've learned I realize there isn't one way to be successful being successful with women is about being attractive(attracting women is about confidence and making women feel good) and being a responsive male(escalating at a comfortable pace).

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Well said! (+1)

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I agree man its all about feeling good in your self and how you mirror that on a women she can feel that. This is very attractive

I only read the first post and I think you are over thinking this. You don't need to walk around in a white lab coat with a mask, gloves, and a stethoscope. Leave the notebook at home. Picking up guys is not rocket science, you dress nice, smile, eye contact, and if you say *anything* to them; they will pick up on it, if they are interested. BUT if you did all of the above you don't have to say shit!