Ladies and gents (probably just the latter), here is proof that persistence pays off when it comes to text game. When I first met this woman in an outdoor festival environment at night, the interaction was only a few minutes and involved some salsa dancing, before she scurried off with her friend. I recall a fairly slim, attractive cougar (most likely over 30 - I'm 26), but since that was a month ago, don't remember what she looks like. I texted her my name during the same night on the spot, as I always do. Here's how the texting proceeded about two days later:


21/2/2012
Me: Hola seniorita! I hope you know what that means... especially if you're really wanna get into Latino style dancing. How have you been?

26/2/2012
Me: I hope you are smiling. If not, just think of me!

20/3/2012
Me: Hey there, how have you been lately?
Her: Hey My Persistent! I feel so guilty for not responding but I only vaguely recall mtg you. I've been great, you?


And from there, we set-up a day-two... in fact my next text was already asking her out for a drink. Straight to the point, no messing around! She even said she looks forward to meeting me. To already have some interest/attraction and start losing it, is a pretty common thing... but the opposite is very rare, from my experience. Somehow my string of texts didn't come off as needy. Is she DTF? How should I proceed from here? Focus on building more comfort, or skip that and escalate hard?

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Escalate. You were great, persistent without being creepy. She's obviously in a place in her life where she wants a man for some fun.

Don't bother setting things up for some long-term affair, she doesn't need that emotional attachment. Just be confident and physical and you're set for an f-close.

Thanks Slip. We're going to a small city pub on Monday night, which does an "Open Mic" thing every Monday. In terms of logistics, she can't come to my house because I live with parents, so I'm wondering how I can invite myself over to her place. Also, should we kiss at the venue we're meeting, or wait until we're in a place we can have sex?

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Try to get a more private booth, so you aren't fully exposed to other people. Kiss her there early on, enjoy the show, start escalating toward the end, so she's turned on then say "Lets go back to your place."

She'll say ok and you leave.

If she says "No, we can't go to mine, why not yours?" say, "Its not an option. Lets find a motel."

Pick out an inexpensive spot beforehand to prepare for this possibility.

Thanks again, I will attempt what you're suggested and report back on Mon/Tues with the results.

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Day-two has now been changed to Wednesday night, at a weekly salsa party following classes held at a certain venue (but we're not going to the classes). This was her suggestion, but I think it's better for both of us.

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Okay, here's a mini-FR from our day-two:

I arrived, she arrived, hugs, got some drinks and sat down. Chatted away for a while, my usual combination of rapport-building and playful banter, she was asking questions and I worked in kino wherever possible. Focus on vocal tonality and being pretty relaxed. Then the salsa party started, so obviously we got up and started busting out moves... good way to escalate a bit more, obviously. And have a laugh, as we were off-rhhythm and stumbled weirdly through some steps.

She told me she had to get up early for some yoga class (6AM), so we soon bailed and we walked to the car park. Talked a little bit, then I went for the goodbye kiss to make my intent a bit clearer (since it wasn't possible to go any further yet), but she shied away and said she "doesn't kiss on the first date". Sounds like typical social conditioning, but part of me thinks I could have done a few things to get around it. I just smooched her cheek briefly said "okay, don't worry about it".

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you should've built more attraction, involve the topic of kissing (to get her thinking about kissing you ) , and use a kiss routine.

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The date sounds fine. I think you should have tried to isolate and kiss much earlier in, good-bye kisses have failed for me in the past.

I've learned years ago that going for that first kiss as a goodbye kiss - sucks. I don't even do it anymore. It's awkward at times, so I remove the chance for it to be awkward.

Escelate based on IOIs before hand, then develop the proper scenario and role plays to get you to that kiss close. You'll be able to determine whether she'll be that rule-breaker that night, or if she'll stick to the "not ont eh first date"... then you smile, do the takeaway and let it be known this is date one and make a showing of shaking hands (especially if she's hot - you can neg her this way, just to throw her off balance).

Feel out the mood and go from there. My suggestion - Always get the first kiss over with before the end of the evening...Caveman or bust if need be!

Rodeo.

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Women are like ceramic tile.... if you do the prep work, and lay them properly the first time...you can walk all over them for years to come.

Thanks guys, in retrospect I should have isolated area and attempting the k-close before we left the venue and went outside. Keep in mind that I usually do this anyway. Think I might have blown my chances now, I texted yesterday but still no reply. Sure I have other options and girls in my "rotation"... but damn, this one was hotter than I remember!

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