- Post pictures of the quality of women you are pulling
- What's your cities population
- What do you consider your looks to be

Anyone that tells you that pick up is easy is bullshitting. Please man, stop with the bullshtting and put that ego of your aside. Guys who train at this know that this shit aint EASY. "Go sexual" You know how hard it is for a guy who doesnt know how to escalate say: GO SEXUAL SO EASY! It makes no sense and you're just giving people false impressions. Picking up or hitting on girl is FUN but not EASY and it takes dedication, practice and experience to get really good

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1. I will never post pictures on this forum.
2. Over 2 million.
3. While looks matter , frame and sexual intent is what makes the deal.

It's Shock and Awe on DTF women.

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You don't seem to get laid much since you are asking those questions.

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WOW just found out that a guy in Montreal who's the wing of my friend got punched in the face going to a girl and doing the same as you. He said to her: "I so want to fuck you tonight" after getting sexual and all.. so I dont know what on planet are you living but in my town this shit wont really work that EASY as you say it is

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Ok , then don't try it.

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1. I would not either. I meant a general picture to show the qualtiy of average girl you pull. I have an ugly friend with no game and he has a really unattractive girlfriend, but he thinks she is a goddess.
2. I have trouble with this method of your becasue I live in a smaller city(300,000) but have noticed a lot more DTF girls in larger cities(generally more attractive aswell)
3. I asked you about your looks. DTF women are there to find someone to fuck. They are normally attracted to a specific type of guy. If I approach a girl that likes black dudes, or italian guys, no matter my "frame', it aint gonna happen with one line.

It's something that has to do with you or maybe you do not know how to look for DTF women.

THINKING IN RETROSPECT MAYBE WHAT YOU ARE EXPERIENCING IS NOT REJECTION BUT RESISTANCE.

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to do what stelar does, you need to have some time in the game and success to get the game to that level( i do not know if the dude legit or not, he brags too much) but is not wowow, that sounds impossible, if you do his system, it could work(his system that is), here is his system, later i may break it down to give my opinion on it and why it may work, but stelar as i pm you, you need to complete your lay reports:


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I understand what you are saying , yet I don't see the reason to continue since we both left the place with sex in mind.

I can post 2 - 3 lay reports a week , but there is no point since they all follow the same pattern and I don't remember all my lays and pulls since I've been doing this for 6 years now.

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I feel the same way about field and lay reports they all follow same patterns so you are absolutely right there is no need...I have the same problem with mine, i only post when there is some different lesson to be learn or an unusual pattern, good job dude! my point is not to go in sexual detail as i pm you but to try to replicate the convos etc... to the point of sex... cool dude! later i will explain why your system may work... But again when someone is a newbie they may want to get the fundamentals down, and some field experiences and successes to build the level of calibration and confidence, for it to work, so they do not get slap or/and killed...you have been doing it for 6 years.. ciaram had a similar system...

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^that! the thing is the CONSISTENCY(your claim of picking up a dtf girl every night not even gurus can do that on a consistent basis, a bit exaggerated claim imo) unless the clubs you are picking have a bunch of girls still left at before closing, imo most girls are gone 1-1.30 before closing, and you have 10 guys per girl.. your system(stelar system i posted in the link), most girls at that "1-1.30" hours before closing are usually taken, at that time of the night... most girls are the left overs, the thing is that with the system you posted in the link, at that time does present an advantage since if you game those girls right, they are already warmed up, couple of drinks, and you coming at that time present a level of newness, vs the guys that have been in the venue all night... Your coming at that time dress on a suit with confidence saying things like that may work, the thing i have a problem with is the claim a bit exaggerated of every night, unless a lower quality girls involved in the mix...

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Stelar does say he lives two minutes away from the venue. It has taken him 6 years to get to this level.

A celebrity can possibly match his success rate, so probably Stelar is acting like a celeb.

I'm guessing here, as I want to believe what he is saying. He probably lives close to a lot of clubs that have touristy traffic, and pretty much he has an advantage as his way of being consistently direct is unique. I actually do not know anyone who can be direct from beginning till end. Apart from David X, if Stelar is slightly younger and better looking than David X. It seems possible. When David X speaks he comes across very convincing. I do not know many people who can lie that well.

Anyway. Stelar is in inspiration.

Skills you have made some good points, but I feel that there is no way of knowing, but I also feel that it does not matter that much. Stelar’s version of a 8 or a 9 is always subjective. His type of 10 maybe someone’s 5, and vice versa. Even if he gets 1 success a week it is still impressive considering the style he uses.

I concur, I suggest newbies not to try his stuff. Unless they want a trial by fire.

I was speaking to a group, that said why I was speaking to them. Long silence. .......................................................... Because I want to. Inspiration taken from Stelar, never to apologise. It was a very good reaction. The set was giggling. It felt liberating because usually I gotta talk a lot more, and be the entertainer dude.

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The Jackal an Introduction.
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The Field Reports.
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The Lay Reports.
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One venue of the venues is like 2 minutes from me.

The other 2 are 15 minutes of driving from my house.

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LE : yes in the past 2 weeks I went out 4 times and got laid 4 times.

I screen for DTF and go Ultra-Aggressive.

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I am almost 23 and I had 250 women +.

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So I've been reading your work and i have to say i realy want to go this way!
I love everything about it!!

So i've been experimenting on going this way and it didn't bring me big succes YET. When i read your reports i have no doubt wether they are true or not, i'm not that guy. And besides what would you gain from it. But the above quote doesn't make sence to me.

You are not on this forum to learn right? It's definately good for your ego and your probably going to help guys like me. So if i were you i'd do probably the same! I'm on this forum to learn from your stuff. And even though i understand if you'd complete the lay report every singel time you are going to repeat yourself, but it would be nice if you'd make a verry detailed one that represents a generic pull you do. Describing how the night starts/failed approaches/how did you prepare the night/What girls you select/describing the venue/what you think at sertain points/inbetween conversation(s)/how to get this dominant(or are you always like this)/bodylanguage/Eye contact/tonality/pauzes/relationship you have with the bouncer/club owner?/lmr/getting in the car/sex/blablabla/

Write it asif you are telling us why YOU CAN and many guys on the forum CAN NOT (yet). Or if it's as simple as you say. Then what should bend our journeys the right direction. Write it asif you're a teacher.

Pieces missing to my personal puzzle
As you read in my journal i'm not afraid of doing a little experiment or pushing my boundaries. I write my reports for you to get more insight in what guys like me could change. But these are some simple things i run in to.

- I have no Car and i live 30 minutes of public (night) transfer away from the closest venue. The line "Lets go to my car" sound verry powerfull to me, but doesn't apply.

- I'm not sure wether the venues i visit suit this approach. Could you descibe the venues you go to. Kind of people/SPAM/music/age/mindset.

- I've never been out alone, but as i said i'm not afraid to change and experiment.

BTW there are some cafe's stuffed with boring students (from my university so that keeps me from gaming here) that are pretty close to my house, but they are low energy café's i didn't really concider. However years ago (i was still in a relationship) i was drinking with my buddy's in one of these cafe's and at the end of the night this girl approached me in your style. Like hey who are you, lets go to your place. Creazyy right.... I did take her home btw

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HI

Do not go to bars , go to night clubs.
Approach girls that are "semi-dancing" or dancing on a spot.

I posted a thread in which I gave a video example of DTF women and got flamed.

Search for it the in PUA Lounge. (video example of women looking for sex)

The rest comes with experience.

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