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PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 6:15 am 
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Hi all, I am new to this site but I really need some advice. I am a student working at the school part time and there is a hb 10 and every time I see her she looks at me and smiles and I smile back but we never say anything. The one day I caught her looking giving me the up and down. Another time she actually turned around on the treadmill and looked at me. I was just gonna be straight up and ask her out because I felt so confident about it.Then found out she has a boyfriend. I would still like to pretend I don't know that and say something though. Any advice on what to say?


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 6:23 am 
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While I'm no expert in any way, I do have some experience with taken women and flirting with girls when I'm taken.

When a girl is in a relationship and that boy toy isn't around, they tend to feel "protected" and fear no man. They will check you out if you're cute, or even flirt you up, because hell, it doesn't matter what happens, they just get to enjoy the attention knowing that they have an easy out. Similar situation with a taken man, girls always flirt with me more when I'm in a relationship, especially hot girls. They know I'm taken, so they feel safe to flirt and open up. Sucks, but that's life.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 9:33 pm 
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Hey, i cant say im an expert in opening and seducting and all this stuff, but there is definitely no reason you shouldnt talk to that girl. When she smiles at you and you smile back and she doesnt stop smiling immediately, i would count that as an IOI which means you are basically IN, you just need a good situation-based opener.

If shes an HB 10 you could just start with a neghit, if you dont want to do that, you could just ask her a question or when she smiles, give her that push and pull with the fourth best smile of your day. There are many options.

A note on the boyfriend topic: There is no need for you to mention her boyfriend in any way, if she has a lucky relationship, she will say that she has a boyfriend, if your conversation starts to get her attracted, that is an indicator for a good game, take it as a compliment on your skills. If, however, you are obviously attracting her and she didnt say something about her bf, you can escalate further and further and maybe you will make her brake up with him...


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 9:47 pm 
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Thanks for the replies guys I really appreciate it.
I like the fourth best smile one. but what can I go to after that? what can I use as a pull I guess you would call it lol. I was also thinking of some negs because this has been happening about once a week for 2 months. I wanna to say something along the lines of why dont you just say hello already. Not that exactly but something like that. what do you think?
I know you guys are humble enough to say your not an expert but discussing this with my friends who have even less game than me doesnt get me anywhere lol.


Thanks again.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 9:30 am 
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Youre welcome :)

say hello already sounds like a nice one to me if you say it with the right facial expression and voice. To be honest, in my opinion, a successful opening depends little on the words you say, but all the more on your smile and your charisma in that moment. You could use one of mystery's badass openers but yet fail if it is not performed playful and casual.

What follws after the opener depends on her answer and your creativity. You can bring in some fluff talk, make some jokes and escalate slowly into kino. I alway start with direct qualifying and push and pull but i have almost no experiences with taken girls, so i wouldnt recommend that to you in this case..

The Push&Pull with the smile, if you didnt know it yet:
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At some point while interacting with a woman I might take her hand and praise, “You have the most amazing smile I’ve seen tonight… It makes me feel so happy inside!” She’ll usually respond with, “Thank you!”

Then I’ll count the fingers on my other hand and say, “You know what: actually there were four other girls with amazing smiles tonight as well. Out of them, you have the fourth best smile. I’m going to call you number four.”

And then I’ll push away her hand. More often than not, women demand, “Nooo! I want to be number one!”

I’ll usually retort with, “Alright, I’ll promote you to number three for being feisty.”


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