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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 1:44 am 
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Hey guys,

My name is Shadroz. I recently started getting into the game. I have read mystery method and the rules of the game. I understand all the concepts and motivations behind them. My problem is I can't open. I don't get anxious or scared. I just physically cant bring myself to open a set. My brain shuts off when I'm in the field.

I don't know if it's inner game, approach anxiety or my limiting beliefs. Its the strangest thing. I'll see a target in a set that I want but I just can't approach. I don't think about anything. I just can't bring myself to move my body to the set.

Any help would be much appreciated!
Thanks.
Shadroz


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 2:36 am 
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Honestly? Sounds like a bit of AA, have you done the newbie mission?

If not, are you getting a bit drunk when you go out? That always helps me haha, nothing like a bit of alcohol to loosen up :wink: .

I'm no expert though, not at all, but if I were you I'd get myself a supportive wing that would bust my ass and get me opening and approaching!

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Alcohol helps yes, but you will be severely crippling your progress by using alcohol, and you will make yourself dependent on it. Run a noob mission, go out one day and approach EVERYONE, for any reason, and do it over and over again.


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Get someone to motivate you. It works for me. The brain will tell the body what to do and it seems you get cold feet. Alcohol helps...but it's won't fix your inner game. Just get out of your comfort zone, it's not like it will kill you.


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Get someone to motivate you. It works for me. The brain will tell the body what to do and it seems you get cold feet. Alcohol helps...but it's won't fix your inner game. Just get out of your comfort zone, it's not like it will kill you.
Personally, I don't really drink, if you want that's your choice, but I don't think you need it. It is harder but the payoff is exponential.

Before you go out:
1. STATE CONTROL: I think this would help you out a lot.
This is basically the act of getting in the zone. Using reaffirming statements and often music.
In short: Pick a favorite song. Tell yourself how cool you are while listening. Google it for more stuff.

2. STATE SHIFTING:
Along the same lines, I saw a video last spring I'm going to give you that Andy Yosha made...
http://www.daygame.com/2011/videos/over ... -shifting/
In summary, these small things are done to warm yourself up and shift your state to gaming.

3. FORCE IOI's: Especially for the club scene, if you catch someone's eye, smile, and point or wave at them, this will initially tell you what they are thinking. Some girls may look at you weird (it happens move on... remember you're in state you're the F'ing man right now regardless), others will reciprocate. If they do reciprocate, just walk over and basically introduce yourself to open... your already in a good place. no canned stuff.

4. UNINVESTED OUTCOME: Pick someone you wont care about the outcome starting out. Honestly, I pick girls who I don't find attractive or warm up on girls who I am friends with.

5. FRIENDLY COMPETITION: Work with a fried and challenge each other. Once you've changed your state. Have a friend pick a girl for you. Hold each other accountable. Also, you can can casually observe body language of your partner and give feedback.

I am far from a PUA, but I hope this helps and works for you.

Let me know if you're still curious about somethings

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2. STATE SHIFTING:
Along the same lines, I saw a video last spring I'm going to give you that Andy Yosha made...
http://www.daygame.com/2011/videos/over ... -shifting/
In summary, these small things are done to warm yourself up and shift your state to gaming.
That video is actually amazing and may have just fixed my own AA. I was gonna' say to OP that I myself have always had AA It's something everybody has, and you just get more used to pushing yourself through it. But this video is amazing. I remember one time I went out with my mate's in the nearest large city and that was the best "state" I've ever been in and it worked exactly like the video said.

First it was me and my mates at one of my friend's uni appartments that none of us had been to before, we all arrived and started pre-drinking before his flat mates arrived (who only one of us knew) but because our friend was their we all got along just fine with these semi-unknown people. Next we got our taxi to town where we had a long and funny convo with the driver (a stranger) about the amount of drunk people he has in his car on busy nights. Then in a queue for one club we had a hilarious convo with some other guys out having a good time, and in the queue for the second club we went to we had a playful argument with some girls who were trying to cut in line (we let them, they knew the girl in front of us).

In the club. After all this. I instinctively hit on the attractive barmaid in a joking manner, I was drunk and I obviously wasn't going to close her but I did it anyway simply because that's how the night had naturally panned out to lead up to already. After that first "sexual" encounter I was an absolute machine that night. I k-closed 4 girls and f-closed one of them without any AA at all, in fact I was barely even trying.

That video made me realise how that happened and now hopefully I can re-create it on purpose more often. Thank you Invincible Virgin for your link. +1

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 9:41 am 
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if you read mystery's book, he says you should use the 3 second rule. every pua feels anxiety but its either you feel it for 3 seconds or you can stand there and feel it longer. i used to have the same problem but i have made some notes on it from mystery's videos.

approaching:
Dont fidget when you enter a set (Dont play with hands, fingers, hands in pocket)
Use body rock, if not, then dont move. the less you move the more social value you have
Dont face set when approaching.
you must double take:
communicate pua: oh, ill just ask them
person who moves the least has the most value
keep feet apart, shoulders length
lean back, dont lean in
DONT PECK
body language subcommunications are more important than material.
DONT EVER FOLLOW AFTER A SET!!!
girls respond to social value
3 second rule:
dont wait it increases anxiety
decision: mystery; i signed up to be in this aeroplane, now im at the door saying should i jump?. the decision should be at where you signed up not at the door when youre about to jump.
either feel anxiety for 3 seconds or for even longer, the choice is yours
voice:
be enthusiastic, its contagious
more expressive face and voice tonality



i hope they help you. cos the certainly helped me.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 10:33 am 
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Thanks for all the replies. I am so disappointed in myself. It's been like this for 2 weeks now. I was opening before but for some reason I've just recently started feeling like this. I will try the state shifting and thanks for the video.

Girls look at me because I do convey a strong frame, like last week a 9 stopped me going past her by dancing in front of me and blocking my way. What do I say? You're pretty but I need to go to the toilet and just moved her out of my way.

I think it's getting worse. I feel so confident when I walk in a club and the girls feed off it but when I just don't open I demonstrate lower value and it continues the whole night. I just don't think I'm a social person. I've always felt awkward and out of place in the field especially when I don't drink. Since I've started getting into the game I've stopped drinking and I think it's just amplified those feelings since I'm not getting drunk anymore so I feel even more out of place.


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2. STATE SHIFTING:
Along the same lines, I saw a video last spring I'm going to give you that Andy Yosha made...
http://www.daygame.com/2011/videos/over ... -shifting/
In summary, these small things are done to warm yourself up and shift your state to gaming.
That video is actually amazing and may have just fixed my own AA. I was gonna' say to OP that I myself have always had AA It's something everybody has, and you just get more used to pushing yourself through it. But this video is amazing. I remember one time I went out with my mate's in the nearest large city and that was the best "state" I've ever been in and it worked exactly like the video said.

First it was me and my mates at one of my friend's uni appartments that none of us had been to before, we all arrived and started pre-drinking before his flat mates arrived (who only one of us knew) but because our friend was their we all got along just fine with these semi-unknown people. Next we got our taxi to town where we had a long and funny convo with the driver (a stranger) about the amount of drunk people he has in his car on busy nights. Then in a queue for one club we had a hilarious convo with some other guys out having a good time, and in the queue for the second club we went to we had a playful argument with some girls who were trying to cut in line (we let them, they knew the girl in front of us).

In the club. After all this. I instinctively hit on the attractive barmaid in a joking manner, I was drunk and I obviously wasn't going to close her but I did it anyway simply because that's how the night had naturally panned out to lead up to already. After that first "sexual" encounter I was an absolute machine that night. I k-closed 4 girls and f-closed one of them without any AA at all, in fact I was barely even trying.

That video made me realise how that happened and now hopefully I can re-create it on purpose more often. Thank you Invincible Virgin for your link. +1



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 2:42 am 
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If you can't approach, you can't do anything.

I attribute 100% of my progress to approaches. There are many situations where I'll say "I can do something here. Time to cure my approach anxiety" and then I start walking before I let fear grip me.

I don't know what I'm going to say, and yeah, a couple of times I've gotten to the girl and said "Uhh... Hi, what's your name?" and those sets were just as good as any other!

Stop thinking you need to be smooth! You don't! You need to 1. Meet her. 2. Talk to her.

And once you have those two down, you can move to the advanced step: 3. Close her.


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