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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 12:46 pm 
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Well begin a student my time is split, sheffield in term time and birmingham in the holidays.

Yes you should be free from outcome, but you can also aim to do something e.g. open 20 sets


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 Post subject: Not much to report....
PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 2:54 pm 
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Not much to report! Saturday night was interesting went to several bars/pubs rather than the usual bar then club.

This meant I was a little out of my comfort zone in approaching women (prefer clubs).

I only managed to approach two sets asking them situational openers.

Since I didn't have time for my day 6 (compliment at least 2 women) I went into town the following Monday (yesterday) and totally bailed went in around 12 and there were plenty of hotties walking past but didn't know what to say/choked.

So went into town today about 1.30 with a better knowledge of approaching (rather than just say a compliment open them first with a question - do you know where the nearest Starbucks is? *compliment* then leave) however there was a severe lack of attractive women about think I left it too late as most of the professionals would have been on there lunch break before but this time town seemed empty.

Spotted a few from afar but didn't have the courage to walk right up to them.

Gonna attempt again later on in the week and conquer this! Thinking about meeting up for day game through one of the other forums as it's something I definitely need to master and I know I already hold the keys to.

@Cornishman I am based in the south.

Till next time,

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 11:46 am 
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So last night I got my second kiss close....

Went out to a pub, then a club did an opener on the dance floor, then approached a set on the terrace before another approach to a cute girl walking past, I did a compliment opener and as I did her friend tapped my chest and said "your a hottie - you look like ***(pretty attractive celeb).

So that gives me a nice confidence boost, I then turn back and talk to the girl I opened for a while, she suggests we sit down so we sit and talk I can tell she likes me - complimenting me on several things and touching me a lot, I work on kino escalation but everytime something starts developing she sort of freezes out and the tension vanishes.

We get talking and she tells me she's two weeks out of a relationship, we talk about that for a while before she suggests we go get a drink and dance (yes, I know! Shes isolating me when it was one of my sticking points!) We hit the dance floor then the bar then return to the dance floor getting pretty close.

Then she asks me if I've kissed anyone since my ex, then tells me she hasn't got with anyone since breaking off with her ex. I tell her I'd really like to kiss her and she says when we were upstairs she wanted to kiss me but felt weird about being single I suggest perhaps she should try it to see how it feels.

We dance a little more, talking looking into each others eye then suddenly we're kissing and she is going at it like theres no tomorrow.

We move over to the wall (I'm against the wall) and it's going on, she's working the neck and so on...it's all good apart from every now and again she'd stop and say "we're not going to have sex"? I'd say no, I just want to kiss and then we'd continue.

After kissing for a good 45 mins or so she looks around and wonders where her friends have gone - so I suggest we go back to the terrace to look for them on the way back she starts saying how much older then me she is (like 20 months or so..?).

We pass her friend on the way they discuss how they will be leaving to move on soon, so naturally I say cool I think my buddys leaving soon (to go home) so I'll go with him.

We sit on the terrace and she starts acting a little distant, then her friends talks to her and leaves us alone again. Then I talk to a couple of my buddys as they walk past asking when they are leaving.

Then shes acting really distant - I ask her if she's okay a few times she says shes fine before suddenly saying "is this it?" I'm like wahh? Shes like "is this what being single is?" I say its what you make of it then she says she's "glad she knows what guys are really like now", then starts saying I used her and do I feel good? Up to this point I really liked the girl so I said I'd like to she her again she doesn't believe me then starts laying into me saying she wished she'd never kissed me, calling me a dickhead.

At this point she had a tiny bit of drink left and kept saying once she'd finished it she was going so I was painfully waiting for the last droplet to be consumed whilst she continually told me I was a dickhead.

Finally it got to much, so I said I'd heard enough and went to find my friends.

Wtf!

Now, is this a lesson that I should :

Avoid girls who are newly single

Number close as well as kiss close to show I'm not using anyone

Start running off as soon as I've kissed closed!

Feel a bit shite about the whole thing, especially as prior to the end we had really hit it off!

Anyone else experienced anything similar?

Also when you kiss a girl do you tend to spend the rest of the night with them? Any advice?

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:07 pm 
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Haha that's great! You're progressing really quickly.

The two things i have to say are:

While i have no DIRECT experience of newly single girls (as in me chatting them up) I have, since september had 2 close friends, who are girls, break up with their BF's and they ARE HUNGRY for no strings attached sex.

As in as long as you're not a creep or a chode they'd fuck you. One even said "I'll get with anyone as long as they're not a loser".

Second point, she just sounds like a headcase or at best a bit fragile and needed more qualifcation/rapport to feel better about the situation.

But you're way better than me and I wasn't there but in my nightclub past experiences; headcases are everywhere and they are decievingly easy for people new to this as they love attention.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:45 pm 
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Haha that's great! You're progressing really quickly.

The two things i have to say are:

While i have no DIRECT experience of newly single girls (as in me chatting them up) I have, since september had 2 close friends, who are girls, break up with their BF's and they ARE HUNGRY for no strings attached sex.

As in as long as you're not a creep or a chode they'd fuck you. One even said "I'll get with anyone as long as they're not a loser".

Second point, she just sounds like a headcase or at best a bit fragile and needed more qualifcation/rapport to feel better about the situation.

But you're way better than me and I wasn't there but in my nightclub past experiences; headcases are everywhere and they are decievingly easy for people new to this as they love attention.
Cheers man, if it wasn't for watching speed seduction and learning about kino escalation there would be no way I would of got the kiss prob took about an hour and a half from first meeting to get the kiss so seemed to take a lot of work.

I think your right, more qualification/rapport would have been better!

I guess each girl is different, but I'm definitely avoiding the fragile ones from now on!

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 9:08 pm 
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Right so I've come to a few conclusions:

- Each girl is different
You can't typecast all girls as being the same just because they may share
the same nationality/dress sense ect. I've been guilty in the past of saying things
such as "I'm gonna avoid *(some certain feature)* girls from now - today I realise this is essentially a limiting belief since we all share different experiences, ideas and interests which makes each of us different despite what we may appear to have in common.

- New beginnings for day game
So had a quick go at day game today for some reason when I've been going out I've been out for about 25 minutes then given up.

Firstly I realise if I'm serious about improving my daygame I need to allow more than 25 minutes.

I accidently came across a YouTube video today (was watching another one which was prior to this one in a playlist) the video can be found at:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZCSN8uX ... playnext=1

This really switched a light on for me, my natural/work state is a little further away from being Playful then I'd like to admit however I can easily reach the playful state needed by talking and bantering with sales staff (no approach aniexty over this since we've all done it 0000's of times).

I know by doing this I'll be able to reach a better mindset and ultimately increase my chances of opening girls more often.

It perhaps also explains why my night games been better than my day game - at night I interact with my friends/bar & door staff and usually open a couple of a girls before I find I really hit it off with one. In day game I go out on my own don't talk to anyone and have been expecting myself to suddenly open sets.

So tomorrow, I'm going to go into town order a drink and joke around with staff, ask for directions then compliment three girls.

Time for a goal update

Goals updated:

Short term:

1. Kiss close another girl - in the next 14 days
Complete, took slightly longer than 14 days

2. Stay in sets longer!
Still working on this one, 1-2 girls no problem - more than that and I jump out to soon.

3. Approach another girl on the dance floor
Complete

4. Work on maintaining eye contact
Complete - will remain focusing on this during interactions

5. Work on Kino escalation
Complete - will remain focusing on this


Medium term:

4. Get a job abroad (Ireland/American/Canada/Australia)
Complete - flights booked - End of March

7. More day game - for my approaches done in the Style challenge all the people I approached I wasn't attracted to - time to up the anty and approach a hottie!
Complete

Long term (remain the same...):

8. Snowboard season (Something I've wanted to do for some time).

9. Get a girlfriend who is hotter than my last

New goals


Short term:

1. Kiss close another girl - in the next 7 days - another one! Yes but this time with a shorter time frame!

2. Stay in sets longer!
Still working on this one I know I can achieve it

3. Compliment three HB's in the day time
Will complete tomorrow (12th March)

4. Work on Kino escalation & isolation
Still feel I need to start kino escalation early on in the interaction and Isolation is another sticking point of mine.

5. Mirroring
I read about how this is a great way to build rapport and see if someone diggs you - will give this a go.

Medium term:
None SPAM - so focus all on short term goals

Long term:

8. Snowboard season (Something I've wanted to do for some time).

9. Get a girlfriend who is hotter than my last

Ultimate goals
10. Be able to open & kiss close from sets

11. Be able to go day game for 2 hours and more often than not number close

12. Meet up with women from dates following number closing

13. More often than not kiss/number close everytime I go out (night game)

New beginnings - onward and upward!

Bon courage!

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 10:17 pm 
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Hey,

So I got my third kiss close last night, this one was slightly different as I'd met the girl before (definitely easier - must increase my social circle!).

Basically went for predrinks at a friends party and this girl was the only single girl there, it was like watching moths to a flame when I arrived all these guys learing over her, I pretty much opened her by joking that my team one whilst hers lost, made some more eye contact talked again then chilled out with my buddies.

Eye contact now and then, could tell she was into me.

After a while we went into town, got separated through transport so opened a few girls in the first club (one on dance floor, one at bar, one near tables).

Definitely still leaving sets too quickly, really need to work on staying and at least trying to build rapport - the problem is that I can very quickly tell if someone likes me or not I can just feel it almost (know what I mean?).

If I don't feel this pretty much instantly I tend to leave, whereas I know now If I were to stick around I'd have a good chance at building rapport through finding something we have in common/mirroring body language/level of excitement (I think I've gone in too excited in the past and stayed at that level instead of lowering it to the occasion).

Anyway! So then went back to another club where the other party goers where, made eye contact again, went to the bar scanned the room (wasn't looking great!).

Bounced back to my friends suggested we all go dance, now what happened next turned out to be extremely in my favour yet wasn't planned at all.

We (about 5/6 of us) led by me get into the center of the dance floor start dancing when suddenly everyone but me and my target is dissapearing I asked her what's going on - apparently no drinks on the dance floor - thank goodness I didn't get that that drink!

So now it leaves the two of us (isolation = good, chances of a girl kissing you when she's away from the group is massive compared to when you're all together).

So, some music comes on were both facing each other making eye contact, smiling ect I begin some gentle kino and I can feel its on.

I look above to see if my buddy/her buddy are near (they were both into the girl - her buddy defo mine unsure). We get closer and closer body's touching I make eye contact and nature takes over.

So, we're kissing and it's like nothing I've ever had before she's going wild treating my lips like beef jerky tongue all over the place! I'm not enjoying it so much anymore so I back up and she suggests the bar.

I realise at this point I need to get out of there (I'm not so into her - but these other guys are), shes holding my hand real tight (I tried totally relaxing it but she maintaned it!) then I see my buddy so I sort of position our hands behind my back, thankfully he needs me to hold his drink so I hang with him she goes to the bar, whilst I text my other buddy whose at another bar agree to meet him, go back to her quickly peck her on the lips tell her I'm moving and then leave.

Arrive at the other bar, had a good time there then she arrives with some others talk to her a bit warm her up outside but wasn't really attracted to her so don't really bother, then we took off (not before my buddy tells me he sees my other buddy at the bar talking to my second kiss close physco girl! turned out it was a false alarm....)

Was a good night out, need to stay in sets longer to build rapport and get on the day game again! Been hitting a wall with it really need to push through so I can reach new levels I think one thing with game once you've reached a level you can loose your confidence but it;s always possible to reach that level again you just gotta grow some balls there really is so little to loose!

Leaving for my trip next week, so since I completed this goal (kiss close again in 7 days not sure what my next goal should be - maybe day game related?) how about: compliment three girls (actually do it also!) during day time in the next 7 days.

Till next time,

Sticks

P.S. If your able to build rapport/match excitement levels and get good eye contact (need to improve this more - will try and notice eye color as it's been a major help already) night game openers don't matter at all it's just the action that leads into the interaction.


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 Post subject: Update in Australia
PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:03 am 
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Well, it's been almost a month since my last report!

Been staying with family in Australia in a small country town.

Not much to report as most of my time has been spent surfing, camping ect.

The towns a real country town so no night clubs and a severe lack of young females! It's also strange as everyone literally knows everyone!

Been to a local one night festival which was good, spoke to a few girls and danced with one was grinding and spinning her around but the magic just seemed to be lacking I think this was due to her making essentially zero eye contact tried to progress but got nowhere! This is the first time I've danced like that with a girl but not got the kiss!

Made a couple of indirect openers at another local event defo need to work on building the interaction after the opener and progressing into direct day openers (been talking about this for ages!).

Walked past the DVD rental store and saw a hot blond working so went in and spoke to her, would like to see where this could lead but have zero experience with girls who are working ect! Any advice?

Think I might go in again and rent a DVD just to try and build some rapport.

Looking to visit Melbourne & Sydney and possibly try to get a job behind a bar and stay for a while - any tips/advice from the aussies? Once I'm back in a city can keep progressing my day game and hit some night clubs again!

Been a month without any action!

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PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 1:37 am 
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Almost a month on!

Been working in the same rural country town, only been out once since the last update where I only approached one girl (who was smoking! And easily the hottest girl I've ever approached).

I saw her across the dance floor, walked over, approached and told her I thought she looked European she thanked me then went into a weird trance like dancing state with closed eyes.

It was weird, I was weird so I went back to my friends.

Here's what I did wrong:

- Zero eye contact - I made no eye contact while talking or approaching. This led to a natural lack of communication and "click".

- Only approached one girl
Yep, that sucks! When I look back to when I got with girls I always approached at least once and failed before I approached and hit it off - before we can walk we must fall.....

- Only tried indirect
Gonna try a more direct approach in the future, where I compliment the girl on something in particular such as shoes/hair ect this has worked better for me that indirect openers (at night game)

I really need to get back out there, day gaming/night gaming. So I'm moving to Melbourne in a couple of weeks where I will have no excuses!

Also hope to meet up with other day gamers there.

See you on the next one,

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