HB8's bestfriend flaked on me



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 5:28 pm 
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Here's the scenario.

I've been sarging HB8 for months. I do day game. HB8 is a shy, demure and very conservative chick. I flooded her with all of the PUA routines that I've learned and know. My best kino-escalation so far that I can get away with was a palm on her forehead. She won't get out of the physical barrier of her shop to interact with me.

However, I always make her giggle with my sexual innuendos as I frame it in a cocky and funny way making her appear like a cocky pervert while I'm the conservative, demure guy.

I bought a MACK Tactics a few months before and so I began sarging all of the ladies she has been interacting with. Some MACK tactics ideas seem to work in the sense that conservative and demure HB8 has finally moved out of her physical barrier to interact closer (physically) with me.

I've also sarged HB8's best friend, HB7. I have easily built deep and wide rapport with her. She has been qualifying herself to me a lot-- that she'll be a great girlfriend, that she's looking for a boyfriend who'll understand her, that she'll turn 18 this April, that she can cook me the best tasting meal-- EVER. She also kinos me a lot and I ping her kinos. I'm currently kino-escalating to her neck area.

But she flaked on the bounce to my place. Last minute. HB7 hinted that HB8 has been missing me and HB8 is getting jealous.

So I sarged HB8 again. Since my role play character with HB8 is the conservative, demure guy who is also a bad body hard drinker and cannabis enthusiast who works as a funeral parlor singer, HB8 said she wanted to see my cannabis collection... as well as meet my roommate, provided that she won't laugh. My "roommate" is a stray pussy cat I've picked up off the streets. HB8 still doesn't know that my roommate is a pussycat.

Now, here's my problem. Is this a trap? Should I stick with HB7 where I have better chances of a fuck close and delay the bounce to my place with HB8?

Logically, I think HB8 will flake on me if I pushed on with the bounce like I care. I need your ideas and inputs brothers.

Thanks a lot in advance. :twisted:

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 12:57 am 
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Based on your post, I'd say both girls like you. This is both good and bad. Since they are best friends and they both like you, they will talk about you a lot. They have also most likely decided which one of them who will get you - you haven't made enough of an impression for them to fight over you. With this in mind, the most logical deduction is that HB8, is the one who's allowed to fuck you. Firstly, she met you first and secondly, her friend hinted that you should go with HB8.

Even if they were fighting over you, you should go with HB8 since she is hotter. Afterall, she says she wants to see your place while seven has declined your offer

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if you have been working on her for months, there are only a few things you really need to know, and figure them out quickly,

-is she open to talking with you/friendly
-will she let you touch her in a meaningful way, (she allows you to hold her hand/put your arm around her/hug her/kiss her, etc. touching that actually has an intention behind it that is obvious to her *you can exclude hugging from this as you can do that without intent*)
-will she hang out alone with you?

if you have all 3 of those checked off on your check list, then that girl is worth a look
if you can get her alone at your house in a place that sex can go down, then that is what you want, try to make out with her, don't kino escalate your way up to that, it doesn't take months to get a makeout, the girl is either down, or she isn't down, and if she isn't down then you most likely at most can become her friend, compliance doesn't take months to build, it is either there or it isn't there, how comfortable a girl is with you as well as her buying tempurature will mildly effect it, and it builds momentum, but realistically you should be able to tell rather quickly, a kiss should be easy to get from a girl that is interested, she will just want to kiss you, no magicall trick her into it shit needed, just do it, if she wants it she will allow it/reciprocate, if not she will turn the cheek and push you away, and then give it a few more shots incase she is just doesn't want to seem easy and if the no stays a no, then just move on to a girl that is actually worth spending time on


figure out those 3 points relatively as quickly as you possibly can, when you are meeting new girls, you want to screen them relatively quickly, and it should be apparent to you that they like you very quickly, you don't ''game'' them to get them to like you, you game them to find out if you like them, while simultainiously showing them who you are as you progress

if a girl is not meeting one of those 3 things consistantly then it is really likely that she is currently not interested in you, if she is regularily flaking, if she doesn't give much compliance and is resistant towards meaningful kino, or she is rude to you and avoids having conversations, then most likely she isn't into you and you will not be able to sleep with her, no matter what lines or routines you use, you are better off not wasting your time and getting nothing, instead seeking out more girls, more often, and screening them faster to find girls that are interested, and once you can find those girls you can screen them further to find out what girls out of those girls that YOU actually like, rather then trying to be a dancing monkey for them so they like you

also, I want to point out that young girls 16-24 are the worst for leading guys on, tons of them crave attention, and harvest minions to orbit, constantly, it is really common for an 18 year old girl, to sleep with 1 guy, and have a few orbiters on the side contantly that she leads on, she will flirt and flirt and flirt, and pretend she is interested to keep back up penises encase of emergency, but she will not give compliance to them, this causes most of the orbiters to get oneitis and orbit, they will usually end up in the friend zone because they did not pay attention to the compliance they were getting and mis-read her verbal interest as the road to her vagina, when in actuallity she is not giving compliance,

the way to deal with these girls, is seek your compliance, and if you are not getting it, fall off on interest and pursue other girls, when that girl starts to miss you, set out the compliance you want, if she doesn't comply, then don't fall into her frame, she comes to you, don't be easy, be a challenge, it either ends in her being compliant or she stops contacting you, if she stops contacting you and won't even hang out alone, then obviously she was not very interested to begin with, was she?

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 10:27 am 
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@Swedishguy

Great insight. I've never looked at the decision-between-two-friends angle before. Actually, I'm looking at the situation from a typical PUA perspective-- that this is a MASSIVE shit test.

Logically, I think my chances of a fuck close with HB8 is slim. Based on pumpington's evaluation criteria, I'm a massive failure on 2 out of 3 points. She won't let me touch her in a meaningful way and I still haven't successfully isolated her.

But I guess I'll go by your advice on this for the thrill of the hunt. I want to see if all of the sciences and tested PUA techniques will work on this hard prey.

@pumpington

I like how you logically analyzed 18 year olds:

"also, I want to point out that young girls 16-24 are the worst for leading guys on, tons of them crave attention, and harvest minions to orbit, constantly, it is really common for an 18 year old girl, to sleep with 1 guy, and have a few orbiters on the side contantly that she leads on, she will flirt and flirt and flirt, and pretend she is interested to keep back up penises encase of emergency, but she will not give compliance to them, this causes most of the orbiters to get oneitis and orbit, they will usually end up in the friend zone because they did not pay attention to the compliance they were getting and mis-read her verbal interest as the road to her vagina, when in actuallity she is not giving compliance"

I agree. If I wanted a fuck close, I should choose hot babes where my chances are higher based on your three (these are very excellent, btw) evaluation points. In a way, I'll follow your advice but I'll also follow Swedishguy's advice.

I'll place HB8 in my portfolio of sarges and devote just 10% of my time for near fuck close sarges on this girl. I will stop sarging HB8's HB7 bestfriend.

Thanks a lot brothers. All of the PUA materials I've bought and those available for free cannot give me the depth of insights pumpington and Swedishguy gave. I'm indebted to you both. Many heads are still better than one.

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