A sweet girl I have been interested in has made a stunning transformation into a complete bitch. I don't know what has caused this change but she does attend college now and has a lot of male interest in her because of it yet still hasn't had a boyfriend.

I hadn't seen her in around six months (but chatted sometimes on Facebook) and in this time she has gone from shy, innocent and sweet to a sarcastic, blunt bitch who barely has anything nice to say about anyone and only likes to talk about herself all the time. I met up with her for a meal today and noticed this. She seems bitter about something in her life. She has talked many times about boys she has turned down and, since I am just one of many, I assume the same will happen to me if I try it on.

I know that deep down she is still the same but her new found arrogance has made it hard to know what the next steps are for winning her over. But I feel as though if I can connect to her former self than I might just have a chance with her. Is it possible to get through to the girl she once was? How should I go about it?

Cheers.

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Umm, her "transformation" should make her easier to pickup if anything. If your seeking to "save" this girl, I doubt we could help.

Are you familiar with any pickup skills? If so, use them.

Stop pretending she's still the girl you crushed on and never talked to. People change.

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I don't really want to 'save' her, am familiar with a limited range of pickup but just wondered if anyone knew about techniques that appeal to a girl's inner self (not in some dumb spiritual way) rather than having to deal with what seems like a front.

You can't EVER change people, you can only INFLUENCE them to change.

Having said that I would advise against spending another second of your time and energy trying to do this. You will only end up stressed and negatively affected in the end.

There's also another thing to consider and this is something my mentor, Arash Dibazar, told me...you can't make sense out of insanity without becoming insane in the process. This girl sounds a LOT like a girl I used to date and she was definitely insane. She was bitter, cynical, domineering and a hardcore feminist (though she denied it), and I nearly went crazy trying to figure out WHY she behaved the way she did.

Anyways, long story short, fuck this girl. She'll perhaps learn the error of her ways one day. You sound like a benevolent individual and the last thing you want is being brought down by some insecure bitch.

All the best,
Sep

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I say you still pursue, but forget trying to help her or making her your girl friend. In this situation I would neg her -- just neg her ass hard and use the fact she use to not be so shallow.

If she is insane none of that matters or applies. She has no healthy or sensible emotions so negging her won't do shit.

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your frame says it all, this is most likely not going to end well for you, and you are trying to do the impossible,

don't ''win her over''

don't look for her approval or try to get her to like you,

it is either she does or she doesn't, and if she doesn't,

then don't waste your time, don't ever spend time on time wasters, get your point accross early, peak their interest, escalate towards what you want, express your intent, then get it in or move on and wait until they come back around and are more compliant

this is the way it works, you don't fix problems, you go find a new girl who doesn't have them, and if the girls with problems come back, you only see them if they are willing to cooperate

you have to go out more, you have to meet more girls, you have to stop using facebook to meet girls, you have to stop being needy and clinging to the little options you have, the world is full of girls, if you leave your house you will see quite a few of them, nothing is stopping you from going up to them, introducing yourself, getting to know them, and asking for dates/phone numbers, get used to it and start doing it

you don't win girls over, you see what they are like, and if they are cool, you proceed to move thing towards sex, and if not, you proceed around the corner to the next girl

GOOD LUCK

I guess I was a little afraid of this answer but I know I'll just have to look elsewhere. It was just a crushing blow to see that she had turned out like all the others (not that I limit myself to nice girls) but it's not the end of the world.
Thanks for the advice =]

I know I myself may come across a clingy person who barely leaves the house in this post, but I actually live for the leisure of casually going out during the day and nightlife. But I get what you're saying - I am not ruthless enough and meeting a girl for me is usually a long winded process which I need to speed up and get the answers I want faster. I am too much of a nice guy but I could learn something from this girl haha. Cheers for the advice.