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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:20 am 
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Hello everyone, I am a new member to this site. I would like to share something about myself. I am 21 and still single. I met this girl in my class that I would like to date her. However, I only see her once a week. I have a vague info, that she is single. How do I approach her? How do I make my move and get her interested to me? I had been reading about being an alpha male, so I kind of have those qualities in my personality. I would appreciate if any of you can send me a response.
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Hi there buddy. Your description about the relationship between you and this girl is rather blurry. We have no idea whether she is interested to the slightest or not, so I can only guess that neither do you. So the easiest way to find this out would be just to ask her out. Initiate a conversation, and if you really have those alpha qualities you shouldn't have a problem making her laugh and being comfortable.

Most likely the convo would start casually, but then you should really head for something exciting. Something that spikes her up. Like passions. But don't talk about hobbies like people usually do. (eg. I love riding the motorbike. What about you?) No... you go like this : I so love heading out to the nowhere on my motorbike. It's like the sensation of freedom, power, speed, and all else gives me the feeling I kind of live for. Chill runs down my spine just from thinking about it. You know that feeling when it's about your real passions, don't you? etc. etc. etc....

So...something like this should be enough, you will see how willing she is to speak about her passions, and how she speaks about them. That will be a sign about how much she's interested and about how high could you get her. And then just before the conversation gets boring again you move. You ask her out. If she says yes, you're one lucky bastard :D If she says no, it really depends on why, and how she said no...

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Yah, you are right. I left out some details. Well, we took one class a year ago, that time we never spoke to each other. Now she is in my class agian, but the class meets once a week. We know each ohters name, and I added her facebook. One day, about 3 weeks ago, we talked a lot, about our classes and stuffs, but that was in class. We have to work in groups, and we have separate groups for ourselves. We had a general introduction, nothing more. How do I go from there. I see how you mentioned about the motorcycle, but the truth is I am more like how John Alexander used to be. I don't have friends, and I am not very social, also this is my first time trying to get a gf. I am more into studies oriented, don't have much fun things going in my life. Can I still be attractive to this girl, (no physical attraction), I meant, like alpha male attraction.


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Hi there buddy. Your description about the relationship between you and this girl is rather blurry. We have no idea whether she is interested to the slightest or not, so I can only guess that neither do you. So the easiest way to find this out would be just to ask her out. Initiate a conversation, and if you really have those alpha qualities you shouldn't have a problem making her laugh and being comfortable.

Most likely the convo would start casually, but then you should really head for something exciting. Something that spikes her up. Like passions. But don't talk about hobbies like people usually do. (eg. I love riding the motorbike. What about you?) No... you go like this : I so love heading out to the nowhere on my motorbike. It's like the sensation of freedom, power, speed, and all else gives me the feeling I kind of live for. Chill runs down my spine just from thinking about it. You know that feeling when it's about your real passions, don't you? etc. etc. etc....

So...something like this should be enough, you will see how willing she is to speak about her passions, and how she speaks about them. That will be a sign about how much she's interested and about how high could you get her. And then just before the conversation gets boring again you move. You ask her out. If she says yes, you're one lucky bastard :D If she says no, it really depends on why, and how she said no...



Yah, you are right. I left out some details. Well, we took one class a year ago, that time we never spoke to each other. Now she is in my class agian, but the class meets once a week. We know each ohters name, and I added her facebook. One day, about 3 weeks ago, we talked a lot, about our classes and stuffs, but that was in class. We have to work in groups, and we have separate groups for ourselves. We had a general introduction, nothing more. How do I go from there. I see how you mentioned about the motorcycle, but the truth is I am more like how John Alexander used to be. I don't have friends, and I am not very social, also this is my first time trying to get a gf. I am more into studies oriented, don't have much fun things going in my life. Can I still be attractive to this girl, (no physical attraction), I meant, like alpha male attraction.


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I just mentioned motorcycle as an example. Any kinds of passion would do it. Man, get this. It's not only about girls. You need to have a passion. It's like a purpose to live for. As for me, it's playing the piano. Find something you're good at and interested in.

Also, you should be more social and get friends. Life is fun with fun people. Find them! It is very difficult to make a girl interested if you're not interesting. I think this pretty much makes sense, right?

I don't believe you don't have some fun stories, at least from your childhood. I used to be kind of the nerd type and even I was full of them.

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I just mentioned motorcycle as an example. Any kinds of passion would do it. Man, get this. It's not only about girls. You need to have a passion. It's like a purpose to live for. As for me, it's playing the piano. Find something you're good at and interested in.

Also, you should be more social and get friends. Life is fun with fun people. Find them! It is very difficult to make a girl interested if you're not interesting. I think this pretty much makes sense, right?

I don't believe you don't have some fun stories, at least from your childhood. I used to be kind of the nerd type and even I was full of them.
I read John's "How to be an Alpha Male" and I am trying to be one, every single day. I keep on telling myself all those positive affirmations. But this is the thing, when you are saying make friends, I don't want to make friends, just so that I have a gf. That idea just repulses me. Also, just go around meeting women. I don't know how to do that. I have a strong mindset, about being an alpha, I also have a good body language. But the idea of never having a gf, sometimes depresses the shit out of me. I don't know what to do. Sometimes, I just go with the idea that "an alpha male is completely fine with or without women." Its not the fact, that I won't enjoy making friends, but I belive friendships are more of passive action, rather than an active one. I don't feel like knocking down on people's door everytime, and ask them to do something for fun. I have seen movies where lonley people got gfs. How was that possible? Sometimes, I just feel like knocking myself out. Almost everyone has a gf. I don't know how John got a gf. He never mentioned anything in the book.


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I just mentioned motorcycle as an example. Any kinds of passion would do it. Man, get this. It's not only about girls. You need to have a passion. It's like a purpose to live for. As for me, it's playing the piano. Find something you're good at and interested in.

Also, you should be more social and get friends. Life is fun with fun people. Find them! It is very difficult to make a girl interested if you're not interesting. I think this pretty much makes sense, right?

I don't believe you don't have some fun stories, at least from your childhood. I used to be kind of the nerd type and even I was full of them.

I didn't read your reply thoroughly at first. Then when I reread it, I realized the keywords, passions in life. Yes, I don't have faith or belief in God, but I do have my faith and belief in your words. Its, true its not about getting girls, its about getting up in the morning and doing something, anything that pleases you. Thanks man, I gotta long way to go.


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I didn't read your reply thoroughly at first. Then when I reread it, I realized the keywords, passions in life. Yes, I don't have faith or belief in God, but I do have my faith and belief in your words. Its, true its not about getting girls, its about getting up in the morning and doing something, anything that pleases you. Thanks man, I gotta long way to go.
Faith in God? Well I don't have that either. This last post shows a mindset pointing in the right direction, for your previous post, however, I'd like to comment some things...

You say you see making friends as a passive thing. I think that's slightly inaccurate. Has some truth in it, but the reality is not so simple. I also don't understand why you don't want friends. It would be really unhealthy to have a gf but not friends. You NEED to spend time apart from each other or else both of you would be driven crazy. And pretty much the most fun thing to do is hang out with cool people. Also, love and romance are very unsure things. True friendship is rock solid. I don't even know what would I have become without my dear friends, but definitely not the healthy person I am today.

I haven't read that book you mentioned, but I doubt it said that the alpha male gets his focus on just being alpha and getting a girl. In fact, an alpha male has specific plans about his life, most of them being completely independent from women, and is focused about achieving them. An alpha male generally likes people, so he is always pleased to have new acquiantances. That doesn't mean real friends of course...You really only want few people that close, but you should not be so negative about meeting new people.

That's pretty much what I had to say. Good Luck on your journey mate!

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I didn't read your reply thoroughly at first. Then when I reread it, I realized the keywords, passions in life. Yes, I don't have faith or belief in God, but I do have my faith and belief in your words. Its, true its not about getting girls, its about getting up in the morning and doing something, anything that pleases you. Thanks man, I gotta long way to go.
Faith in God? Well I don't have that either. This last post shows a mindset pointing in the right direction, for your previous post, however, I'd like to comment some things...

You say you see making friends as a passive thing. I think that's slightly inaccurate. Has some truth in it, but the reality is not so simple. I also don't understand why you don't want friends. It would be really unhealthy to have a gf but not friends. You NEED to spend time apart from each other or else both of you would be driven crazy. And pretty much the most fun thing to do is hang out with cool people. Also, love and romance are very unsure things. True friendship is rock solid. I don't even know what would I have become without my dear friends, but definitely not the healthy person I am today.

I haven't read that book you mentioned, but I doubt it said that the alpha male gets his focus on just being alpha and getting a girl. In fact, an alpha male has specific plans about his life, most of them being completely independent from women, and is focused about achieving them. An alpha male generally likes people, so he is always pleased to have new acquiantances. That doesn't mean real friends of course...You really only want few people that close, but you should not be so negative about meeting new people.

That's pretty much what I had to say. Good Luck on your journey mate!
Well, I am not saying that I don't want friends. I live off campus and its hard to make friends in my college. I had been to a therapist so that he can tell me how to be social. It didn't work, and wasted my time there. When I call pepole, they don't pick up their phones and it makes me feel like I am the one who is doing all the work. Friends are valuable things one can have, I agree on that point. But, I am in the same situation as John was, and I am trying to be social. I don't want to make friends to meet a girl and get laid. Thats nonsense and too much work for me. How come others just get girls easily and for people like me its so hard?


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Well, I am not saying that I don't want friends. I live off campus and its hard to make friends in my college. I had been to a therapist so that he can tell me how to be social. It didn't work, and wasted my time there. When I call pepole, they don't pick up their phones and it makes me feel like I am the one who is doing all the work. Friends are valuable things one can have, I agree on that point. But, I am in the same situation as John was, and I am trying to be social. I don't want to make friends to meet a girl and get laid. Thats nonsense and too much work for me. How come others just get girls easily and for people like me its so hard?
You know, I usually don't really recommend that book, because I think its method is too robotical. The routines are kind of unnecessary, the neg theory is bleeding from several wounds, I very rarely break rapport so I don't find that necessary either, BUT I see you lack social knowledge. And Mystery's Method describes social dynamics pretty well. I recommend you read either that or "The Game" by Neil Strauss. That book is pretty entertaining too.

And don't forget, really the best way to learn this is to go out. I know it's hard, I used to be on the very bottom of the bottom. Playing WoW all day, being too shy, having crushes on every single girl who was hot, doing weird things all the time(I mean...really weird... like jumping on the table and howling like a were-wolf. Just to get some attention). Just don't give up!

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