hey guys.. im pretty new to pua, been doing it for maybe a couple of months and finally decided to join a forum!
so basically my question is how to deal with girls who say they have a 'boyfriend'. and yeah i know some of you will be like yeah they are lying bla bla.. but ive found in some cases its ended up being genuine and in other cases ive doubted it. so im wondering how to tell the difference and how to deal with each scenario?
cheers guys

run Boyfriend destroyer material. off the top of my head that means asking about their BF, finding out his pros and cons and then play trumps and compare yourself. Most hot and awesome girls are in a relationship and if you're a better guy than her current then you just have to convince her why she should leave him for you. If she's lying and she doesn't have a BF then play it to your advantage and ask questions, you'll know when she's lying and it will be like a joke because you've figured her out.

any help?

Ah. I'll share this scenario that I had last December.

After doing my C&F routines, this chick (HB7) asked me if she could sleepover through text message. In response, I did the playing hard to get and indifferent routines until she finally came over to my place. Oh, we never dated. No bounces either. Just plain C&F routines and playing hard to get.

Her phone kept on ringing while we were kissing and all. I said, "Answer your phone. I think it's your boyfriend."

She did and later on said, she has a boyfriend. It was the caller. She segued into her boyfriend complaints, I acknowledged her angst the first 1 or 2 minutes and then proceeded to work on my foreplay routines.

Then I told her to take off her jeans. She did. In short, her boyfriend became a non-issue and she was glad we got more intimate.

I dumped her two weeks ago because she flaked on our date. I got several text messages and some calls from her that I didn't answer a few days back.

With the above scenario, I think the best way is to ignore her boyfriend and focus on the task at hand.

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ive ran boyfriend destroyer stuff before.. the straw man technique seems to work best where you build their boyfriend up to be a bigger deal than he possibly could be, making her pick holes in her own relationship. which seems to work pretty well. but at the same time it seems like a long term solution and doesnt get around the problem especially well.. i dont think comparing yourself to her current boyfriend to convince her would work very well. its pretty approval seeking and usually doesnt work.
and yeah hellhound, i think its pretty good to just kind of ignore it and move on, which can work but sometimes the girl just wont leave it alone! i had a case a couple of weeks ago where i was in a club with this girl who turned out to have a boyfriend (her friend told me) so i carried on as the girl i was sarging hadnt even mentioned a guy. then this girl even let all her friends go without her and stayed with me (at this point im thinking 'yes, it must be on!') but then she started saying how she felt bad/guilty. i literally tried everything. i ignored it for ages at first. then i ran straw man technique and it worked well and she said about how things werent going well bla bla. then i changed the vibe to more positive again. after ploughing for what seemed like an eternity and getting nowhere, it was close time and i had to get a cab back to hers where her protective housemates yanked her inside! i guess its all feedback. but still.. very annoying!

Now, that's a good indicator. I think you just aren't prepared yet when the scenario happened.

The next time this scenario happens again, be prepared to use Mystery's Freeze Out technique or try bouncing to another place saying some routine, like this:

"I can sense you don't feel too good right now. Let's go home. I have a pet bird and his name is Peter North and he can dance and sing better than a canary. Peter can take your stress out and make you feel better. If you don't like birds, I have a pet pussy cat who plays the piano when she gets wet every time I give her a bath. She loves Head and Shoulders shampoo. She purrs too much when I rub her hair. My Peter North and this pussy cat play a lot. They don't eat each other. They dance and sing. Blah, Blah. Blah. (Add more sexual innuendo routines here...)"

If this fails and gets you a slap, try something else. I usually succeed though with sexual innuendo when a girl chooses to stay alone with me even when she has a boyfriend.

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I would not recommend mystery's freeze out technique, that is used when you attempt to sexually escalate whilst alone with her and she resists, also very hard to pull off as most girls will think you are pissed off as opposed to the desired indifference.