Hey everyone, I'm new to the game and just posted my intro. I'm excited to start my journey.

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So last night I was at a restaurant with my friend who happens to be an elite natural. And he was attracting all the hot girls that worked there with ease. There was something I noticed about him. His powers of observation and ability to keep conversation flowing were incredible. He talked about anything and everything. His mid-game had me marveling.

So my question to you guys is: Does anyone know of any exercises or training techniques that can A.) Improve my power of observation B.) Allow me to generate organic conversation. I vaguely remember seeing something some years back that suggested to pick out 5 objects in a room and come up with a fun or interesting sentence for it as a way to get better at observation. And I also recall seeing something that was a way to reciprocate everything the girl says with a new twist, thusly providing virtually unlimited and organic conversation.

Does anyone know of something like this I could use to get better at mid-game?

BUMP: Anyone?

Have you tried the suggestions you mentioned? Those are some good pointers.

Yes I guess that would make sense, lol. But in all seriousness, I believe there was more to the exercises than just that, hence why I wanted to see if anyone knew of anything like this.

I wish I knew. Anyone else know of any exercises?

I don't think any specific "exercises" would be necessary here. Just practice being observant. You said it yourself, pick out things that stand out when you walk in a room. If something reminds you of something, you could go into that story by first pointing out the object (or whatever it is) that reminded you of it. From listening to YOUR story, you may spark something in the girl that gets her talking back or telling her own story.

Maybe I'm making it more complicated then what it is, but I guess I was hoping for something more systematic and structured. What you say is a good idea though, I'm gonna start doing that.

My friend is a natural as well and has the worlds worst ADD/ADHD. This allows him to be silly, loose, and fun. While in conversation with a girl he can pick anything out of the room and RELATE it to the girl.

ex:
girl: "I go to bla bla bla and i study bla bla bla"
him: "Really? (see's a female bartender get a tip) "why dont you quit and be a bartender i would tip you, but only if you could do cool tricks!"

Girl: "I cant stand bla bla bla it tastes gross"
Him: "Hey (see's a neighbors plate) dont complain im allergic to chocolate, so you wont get any of that...ill give you vegetables instead, but only if your good!"


The point is that he just takes his surroundings and turns the conversation back to the girl. By doing this he creates the illusion that they have talked about a bunch of different subjects in a matter of minuets. he keeps a few negs in there and since he is naturally flirtatious and playful it seems cute and fun. You can only keep this up for so long before it gets stale make sure you transition into routines IE: 5 question game, ring routine, the cube (always works) etc...

to practice this try it with your friends and family take random objects in your environment and think about how you can relate them to the person your talking to.
Hope this helps it helped me when i started!

Really bro when it comes to conversation I get stuck too, I have trouble getting the girl to really communicate back. Untill recently They told me that what you say isnt as important as how you say it. e.g A) the delicious cherry pie. B) the orgasmically delicous, cherry pie. Speak with more passion and create a want in her to continue speaking with you. Be aware of her responses so you can transition conversation naturally. A mixture of confidence, fun, and awareness thrown into any conversation is one worth having.

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When talking with one girl, it's pretty simple. Cold read, questions, eye contact and kino will give you a good combination of silent sexual tension and flowing conversation.

When working a group, you don't want to be silent as much. If you realize that a few people are talking and others are just listening, and you're just listening, strike up a conversation with another non-talking person. Make it interesting, think of improv comedy to twist topics to weird, unexpected (and often sexual) directions. When the other conversation dies out, your conversation is at the forefront, and you are the center of attention.