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FUCK YEAH!! a dance thread.

btw skills, thats why they invited the quotes button bro :lol:

god dam the chat, long time no talk to a lot of you.

I swear i don't know how to use it, i am an old fart...

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isn't the chat down, or is there a substitute one that people are using?

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SPAM, contact Otis or celestias

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1) Eye contact: Eye contact is incredibly important! It is amazing what you can achieve with non-verbal. Every guy should take the time to master the art of eyes contacts! Deep stares have the ability to NOT reduce sexual tension, but to INCREASE it. Look at the girl like you are about to fuck her hard. Personally, I think that my stare is at his best when my eyes are semi-closed. For some people, it may look natural that my eyes are small but I constantly work on it.
Don't forget that with eye-contact, there comes a lot of facial expression aswel. Having eye-contact without any facial expression can lead to awkwardness and a lot to estranged behaviour/creepiness for the lady. Add a smirk (bit of a playful smile) to the expression and it's a lot more fun. It's also proven method that smiling does increase attraction because she will feel the urge to smile back.

BUT don't OVERsmile.. really important to get this through! Else you will lose the sexual vibe you have.

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5) Routines:

Routines.... Routines.... Routines....

Pfft.... Routines... I feel the need to talk about routines.

I personally think that routines are BAD for your game. Fuck them, just be yourself. Routines may be good for you in the short term if you have nothing to talk about, but it will only make you a social robot and you will soon forget your true self. I don't recommend anyone to work or try to memorize routines... Exept, maybe... One.
I never figured out WHY people proclaim Routines to be bad. Yes, it's contradictionairy cause I did the same. However, there's a logic between all of this.

When you look at this forum you have 3 kind of people, those who preach the positive about routines, those who hate routines and those who just act as routines.
Let me clarify this for you:

A routine is a handle, an activity that you've gotten USED to. This means that you are doing it multiple times to get the hang of it.

Eventually a routine is made to strengthen the outcome of the interaction and thus increases your chances of sexual activity with your target. Between the 3 people mentioned above, only 1 category is succesfull on all levels (progress, game, life) and that's the third. People ask me a lot about this and they ask me:

Hey, but why not the second either? He can do all the routines

True. He can do all the routines BUT and this "but" is big.. take this person out of his familiar environment and his chances of success gradually decrease. Simply, because a routine is a "predifined" situation and a predifined "answer" towards something.

The third category are those who have done a lot of routines, with rising & falling and made those routines a part of their daily habbits, adjusting the routine to their own character. Thus creating an attractive persona on a lot of levels.
True, a routine can be useful at some point of the interaction, but I still don't recommend them. PUA's, rAFC and others often get criticized for being really good during the first hours with a girl but aren't that great on the long term (i.e. finding a girlfriend). It might not be the case for everyone, but this statement is just on point. In my opinion, this probably have something to do with people using too many routines and not relying on their own brain to go with the flow and improvise a conversation. When you are using a routine, you are controlling the interaction, you know where this conversation is going. I guess my point is that you can use routines, but not too much or at least don't only rely on them when you are interacting with a girl.

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Then, let me ask you a question: Why are you so scared of approaching?
- Most guys will say that they doesn't want to be rejected. Hell, I know that rejection is harsh. But the more you get rejected, the less you care. Hell, I don't even remember if I got rejected last Friday since I didn't give a damn!
This "not giving a damn" thingy, has it gotten so hyped these days? Does it actually help progress you? Think about it.. what has THIS done for you. . .

Think long & straight about this answer Matt, cause it'll show where you are standing right now.
It might not be the answer you were looking for, but I'm going to be 100% honest with you. Rejected might be harsh at first, but once you get "used" to being rejected here and then, you realize that there is no major consequence and that it doesn't matter. It might be because I've been through tough times, but I know that there is things in life so much worst than being rejected by some girl you don't even know and you will probably never see again (and even if you did, she probably won't remember rejecting you).

I'm a really athletic guy and I practice a lot of sports. Personally, I see pick up like a sport, a competition. If you ever played any sport, you will know that you just can't win every time. If I lose a hockey game, I might be a bit mad, but I realize that it doesn't really matters and life goes on. Same thing for pick up, you can't always win the girl, sometimes you got to lose.

What has this done for me?

I actually think it helped me progress faster. Since I didn't really care about the outcome of my approaches, I approached and talked to much more girls than if I actually cared about what others might think of me.

More approaches= More rejection (you learn from your mistakes so it might actually be beneficial on the long term) and more success (more experience with girls).

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The first kiss

The first kiss... Awwww... The most important kiss you will ever have with this girl. I see lots of guys who are having trouble with the first kiss. There are so many information about k-close on this forum so if you don't think that I am specific enough, just go check some other thread on k-closing.

In my opinion, the "best" (Best, as in most romantic, that girl will crave for) are the non-verbal ones. I usually k-close a girl non-verbally by putting my head on hers while I am dancing on her face to face. This will increase the sexual tension and you will have a feeling of being more intimate with the girl. At that moment, you can just close your eyes and "feel" the girl you are dancing with. If her head is down and you do not have acces to her mouth, she's not ready so you just have to wait a bit. You could probably tease her and then close the distance back (Example of teasing at that point: Awww, your so cute, you look so shy). If her head is up and you have access to her mouth, simply kiss her. The first kiss should never be really long, maybe 5-10 sec. Then just look at her and smile.
I like this, good description.

Have you tried it out while putting the palm of your hand on her cheeck? Like as lovers do in movies? It creates a lot of attraction and also a lot of familiarity, as if you are long year lovers..

Also, if you wish to keep it playful (which is GOOD in dancefloor) don't go in for the expected "first kiss" just go in.. and just at the time that you're about to kiss, pull back out and say something stupid like "awww.. you look so cute when you try to kiss me".. she'll feel a bit embarassed and shy, which is natural because she thinks you don't want to..

At that stage, just put your hand on her cheeck and kiss her.. you'll see that this kiss is a WHOLE lot more fun to do then a regular first one.. and it'll improve your ego a bit more ;-)
Yeah, I tried these. There is so many things you can do to make the kiss better. Personally, if I'm near a wall, I like to push the girl on the wall, grab both of her hand, push them on the wall over her head, then lower your hand while touching her body all the way to her hips, her pull her hips toward your dick. It's a really dominant kiss and girls often told me later that they really liked how I kissed them THAT specific time.

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By mr. Matt:

"More approaches= More rejection (you learn from your mistakes so it might actually be beneficial on the long term) and more success (more experience with girls). "


EXCELLENT!

3 types of girls:

Those definitely into you

those that need more info. and can be converted

Those that you are not their type, nothing you can do can convert them..


When you do club game, you want to be EFFICIENT, you want to look for those girls that are Definitely into you, so the faster you get rejected the better, rejection comes with hb dancing really cold(no emotion), bad body language, bad vibe, women coding, stoping too look at the cell phone(calibration sometimes they take the phone out, as hint of you asking for her number), stopping or slowing down the dance, not making eye contact, getting distracted on purpose with her friends or other dudes, saying i got a go to the bathroom or i have to find my friends, so you do not waste time with those that are not into you or a maybe, you need to get to those definitely into you..if i am dancing and i touch and they pull back, or when i try to spin them is like lifting weights, i eject right away, if i am dancing with a girl and in 3-5 songs i am not making out or a lot of problem escalating eject, if in 10-20 minutes nothing is happening do not waste time, eject...


Best routine ever: Shut the fuck up, and escalate... That is the best routine

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great post, skilz360.

I'm new to this forum and will try to read up on the glossary of PUA terms.

Thanks for helping all of us improve our game. I've had great results, mostly outside of clubs. I usually meet girls under other circumstances, almost always at parties my friends throw or at art openings (helps to be one of the artists), and spend a good few hours with them before I even shift into a sexual mode, even though I already decided I wanted to fuck their brains out when I saw them across the room.

This is a better tactic for getting a girlfriend and THEN bringing her to a club for a night of fun dancing. I don't know how many girls I have brought home from clubs, but not many. I've got great day and evening game, poor club and late night bar game. Hope to grow in that realm.


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Great stuff..you talked how you had big Approaching Anxiety. I feel you on that one.. I was having so bad AA I would go out and not approach so many times I got sick of paying money each time and get out of the club with absolutely nothing. Here are my tips that made me conquor my fear of interacting with beautifull women

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Approach Anxiety can be seen as friction to your state of mind. It fucks you up and you start to create false scenarios of what will happen IF you interact with someone. Now the goal is to not remove this feeling..but simply act upon it. Trying to remove state frictions does not work..because it's a biological response that our body creates. We do not have control over it. The only way to overcome this is to ACT when the state friction (which is AA in this case) appears. A lot of guys focus on the problem. Stop focusing on the problem. Focus on the solution! The only solution you have is to ACT. State frictions like social pressure, approach anxiety or fear of sexual rejection will always be there. It is your actions that make you control how much you let these frictions affect your game.

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Before going in field, wether is during the day or during the night, approach 5 strangers on the street and compliment them on something you notice about them.

"Hey I like the color of your hair"

"Nice boots I love them"

Do not re-engage afterwards! Just throw the compliment and leave! This will make your brain realize that the outcome of one interaction is not important, but you're just spreading love around the world. You will feel much better and much happier, putting you in a better state, which gets you prepared for your upcoming field. This technique is gold. Think about as soccer players shoot and play with the ball a couple of times before their game. They wont just come in on the pitch without even warming up. They need to feel the ball on their feet before the big show. When you do this, you get in line at a club and you cant wait to enter the place. You know you're ready to do your thing.

Hope this helped!

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great post, skilz360.

I'm new to this forum and will try to read up on the glossary of PUA terms.

Thanks for helping all of us improve our game. I've had great results, mostly outside of clubs. I usually meet girls under other circumstances, almost always at parties my friends throw or at art openings (helps to be one of the artists), and spend a good few hours with them before I even shift into a sexual mode, even though I already decided I wanted to fuck their brains out when I saw them across the room.

This is a better tactic for getting a girlfriend and THEN bringing her to a club for a night of fun dancing. I don't know how many girls I have brought home from clubs, but not many. I've got great day and evening game, poor club and late night bar game. Hope to grow in that realm.


Thanks!

The credit goes to mr. matt, who posted club game threat... Just think about regular game vs club game:


Regular game: open, blah blah blha, maybe escalate, then get a number, then call, them meet day 2..girls dress normal...Sound of a breeze and birds and crowds...

club game: met, escalate, make out, bj, snl, then get a number, the girls dress their best possible way...Sound of song saying, go down on him, doing it now, lets do it tonight, suck on this etc....


Only game i know were you is expected to dance and grab and do your thing...

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I've got great day and evening game, poor club and late night bar game. Hope to grow in that realm.
Stop hoping. Hope gets you nowhere. Start to act and work on this area of your life if you want to get good at it. There is no such thing as hope or luck. You simply do it or not do it. The choice is yours. You will not magically get good at night game waking up one random day.

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Great stuff..you talked how you had big Approaching Anxiety. I feel you on that one.. I was having so bad AA I would go out and not approach so many times I got sick of paying money each time and get out of the club with absolutely nothing. Here are my tips that made me conquor my fear of interacting with beautifull women

#1

Approach Anxiety can be seen as friction to your state of mind. It fucks you up and you start to create false scenarios of what will happen IF you interact with someone. Now the goal is to not remove this feeling..but simply act upon it. Trying to remove state frictions does not work..because it's a biological response that our body creates. We do not have control over it. The only way to overcome this is to ACT when the state friction (which is AA in this case) appears. A lot of guys focus on the problem. Stop focusing on the problem. Focus on the solution! The only solution you have is to ACT. State frictions like social pressure, approach anxiety or fear of sexual rejection will always be there. It is your actions that make you control how much you let these frictions affect your game.

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Before going in field, wether is during the day or during the night, approach 5 strangers on the street and compliment them on something you notice about them.

"Hey I like the color of your hair"

"Nice boots I love them"

Do not re-engage afterwards! Just throw the compliment and leave! This will make your brain realize that the outcome of one interaction is not important, but you're just spreading love around the world. You will feel much better and much happier, putting you in a better state, which gets you prepared for your upcoming field. This technique is gold. Think about as soccer players shoot and play with the ball a couple of times before their game. They wont just come in on the pitch without even warming up. They need to feel the ball on their feet before the big show. When you do this, you get in line at a club and you cant wait to enter the place. You know you're ready to do your thing.

Hope this helped!
the best way to deal with this is by 60 yoc in his opening book, he basically says the opening Sucks, approaching sucks, and if it was easy everybody would be doing it all the time... so you need to accept that fact.. then you got a play the numbers you know you have to approach certain amount of women to find the ones that are definitely into you, and you need to reward rejection, by escalating fast, that way you can expend your time in the girl that are into you...I personally do better after getting at least one rejection out of the way, since i have a huge ego, also it helps me not to play it safe, sometimes i say in my head how dare she reject me, let me find another girl, and show my moves and how that other girl is having fun and getting turn on, so the one that rejected me be all night long saying i should have stay with that dude, i regret that i rejected mr. skills...Is so much fun when stuff like that happens, anyways here is what i do:

What i do is when girls are not warmed up yet in club game, usually 11.00-12.30 i dance and have fun in my own space towards a corner on the club, and i am studying logistics who is with who, who are the girls that are down, who are the girls my type(sex addict got killed for posting something similar but it is the smart stuff to do) etc...then wait for a good song(a song that is a hit and will be conducive to kino vs, lets say techno, or hard rock) and approach immediately, the most important part of game is approaching, that is 50% of the game, then escalating fast, and not wasting time, being efficient...Girls reward guys that have balls, they punish the pussies(they are not meant to reproduce)... and they can sense the dudes with balls and the pussies like a mouth in a computer... Thanks god for that! since less than 1% of guys with balls .0001 with skills...

Now the good news is that there are 3 types of women and 2 of them vs aaron sleazy and 60yoc that just advise to spend time with the ones definitely into you but in club game there is a little twist to it:

Green...women definitely into you: easy dance escalate do your thing
Yelllow: women that need more info and can be converted: 3 to 5 song escalate and look for compliance if in 5 songs (10-20 minutes) buying temperature is not rising then eject) here is the twist, while aaron and 60 advocate not wasting time here, you never know with club game they may be aroused fast and converted...

Red: definitely not into you: do not waste your time..

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I'm just going to add my own two cents and pose my own question.

I'm a huge clubber. I enjoy clubbing more than going to a regular bar or lounge. I like to dance and I like the SPAM. Therefore, I've been gearing my game towards the nightlife and dance life. I am far from perfect, however.

In my experiences, what NO ONE guy should ever do is (and it's been stated here before):
Do not just approach a girl, grab her and grind with her. Especially not from behind. It will never work. Guys always tell me the women are bitches tonight. No, it's because you just started grinding up on them from behind.
The same sentiment goes for buying a girl a drink and expecting her to dance with you. Maybe she will but thats it. Don't be that loser.
Wandering aimlessly through the dance floor multiple times will result in getting rejected 9 times out of 10. Do not walk around looking for women. I see guys who will circle the dance floor, go in and out for over half an over. They approach one set, maybe two and get blown out and from than on they just fail miserably (I have done this when I first started clubbing as well.)
Being drunk ruins your chances. I've gotten way too drunk and too hammered and I get very little attention. Nobody wants to dance with a drunk fool unless they just want sex themselves. Having a small buzz is fine but seriously, my success rate goes down when I am drunk.

Dancing helps. Hell, I've had a group of 4-5 guys with me and we'd form little half circles dancing and girls would come in and just pick one of us and grind. They saw we were having fun and were harmless. Did these encounters lead to a K-close or N-close? Not always, sometimes it did. If you're shy, it's a place to start. If you think you look stupid, you don't. Fist pumping and all this other "dancing" is stupid to begin with. There's nothing elogant or nice about it. Do it, it's not hard and hell it's fun. If you know better dance moves, show them off to the girl but really, you're not going to be salsa'ing in a club for long.
Attracting attention by going up on a raised platform, DJ stand or anywhere else is a good thing as well. Do your thing up there for a few minutes. Girls will want to come up and dance with you if they see you are having fun and confident.

Now, as for my question.
I often will catch the eye of a girl, she's in a set almost all the time. I know she's into me since I'll usually notice the same chick looking more than once. I approach the set but I am OFTEN blown away by the uglier chick (or the one I'm not interested in) of the group. It is so god damn frustrating and I don't know how to handle it. You can't say anything since it's so loud and you'd be leaning in to deflate her bitch shield which doesn't have the same impact. I should clarify that at times, I approach as soon as I catch the gaze the first time (I don't drop the look, I don't stare creepy, etc.) (If I see a girl check me out more than once I may be with another girl dancing or just gauging to see the interest).
How do you guys handle such situations? I've looked to my target in a "Your friends a bitch, lose her or it's your loss" kinda way but it doesn't necessarily work. Sometimes I've had the target just take my hand and tell me to stay but more than half the times she's powerless against her (mostly) larger friend.

Cheers boys, great thread and I enjoyed reading it. Love getting various idea's and trying to incorporate them. Like I said, I go to clubs quite a bit so I'm more into this aspect of PUA than any other.


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Have you ever seen the other products on dance floor game?


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Have you ever seen the other products on dance floor game?

Yes i spent money studying what is out there, that is why i decided to write a book! do not waste your money, this threat is actually better than the crap out there...

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I'm just going to add my own two cents and pose my own question.

I'm a huge clubber. I enjoy clubbing more than going to a regular bar or lounge. I like to dance and I like the SPAM. Therefore, I've been gearing my game towards the nightlife and dance life. I am far from perfect, however.

In my experiences, what NO ONE guy should ever do is (and it's been stated here before):
Do not just approach a girl, grab her and grind with her. Especially not from behind. It will never work. Guys always tell me the women are bitches tonight. No, it's because you just started grinding up on them from behind.
The same sentiment goes for buying a girl a drink and expecting her to dance with you. Maybe she will but thats it. Don't be that loser.
Wandering aimlessly through the dance floor multiple times will result in getting rejected 9 times out of 10. Do not walk around looking for women. I see guys who will circle the dance floor, go in and out for over half an over. They approach one set, maybe two and get blown out and from than on they just fail miserably (I have done this when I first started clubbing as well.)
Being drunk ruins your chances. I've gotten way too drunk and too hammered and I get very little attention. Nobody wants to dance with a drunk fool unless they just want sex themselves. Having a small buzz is fine but seriously, my success rate goes down when I am drunk.

Dancing helps. Hell, I've had a group of 4-5 guys with me and we'd form little half circles dancing and girls would come in and just pick one of us and grind. They saw we were having fun and were harmless. Did these encounters lead to a K-close or N-close? Not always, sometimes it did. If you're shy, it's a place to start. If you think you look stupid, you don't. Fist pumping and all this other "dancing" is stupid to begin with. There's nothing elogant or nice about it. Do it, it's not hard and hell it's fun. If you know better dance moves, show them off to the girl but really, you're not going to be salsa'ing in a club for long.
Attracting attention by going up on a raised platform, DJ stand or anywhere else is a good thing as well. Do your thing up there for a few minutes. Girls will want to come up and dance with you if they see you are having fun and confident.

Now, as for my question.
I often will catch the eye of a girl, she's in a set almost all the time. I know she's into me since I'll usually notice the same chick looking more than once. I approach the set but I am OFTEN blown away by the uglier chick (or the one I'm not interested in) of the group. It is so god damn frustrating and I don't know how to handle it. You can't say anything since it's so loud and you'd be leaning in to deflate her bitch shield which doesn't have the same impact. I should clarify that at times, I approach as soon as I catch the gaze the first time (I don't drop the look, I don't stare creepy, etc.) (If I see a girl check me out more than once I may be with another girl dancing or just gauging to see the interest).
How do you guys handle such situations? I've looked to my target in a "Your friends a bitch, lose her or it's your loss" kinda way but it doesn't necessarily work. Sometimes I've had the target just take my hand and tell me to stay but more than half the times she's powerless against her (mostly) larger friend.

Cheers boys, great thread and I enjoyed reading it. Love getting various idea's and trying to incorporate them. Like I said, I go to clubs quite a bit so I'm more into this aspect of PUA than any other.

Most of the stuff you said i covered in the 20 mistakes i posted, the problem you are having is that you are taking too long to approach in some cases that can be view by the girl as "lack of confidence" in her head (he probably think i am better than him, he is scare, he is beta he is not meant to reproduce, he does not have abundance)you need to approach IMMEDIATELY and engage the group, but i favor approaching accidentally not planned, you just happened to be there and dancing with her and her friends, sometimes you approach the wrong way and the girl is girl coding the other girl for rescue(that could be as well)... Also when girls are in what i call the group castle and they are into themselves, sometimes i wait for a distraction of one or most of the members to jump in....

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 12:27 am 
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Most of the stuff you said i covered in the 20 mistakes i posted, the problem you are having is that you are taking too long to approach in some cases that can be view by the girl as "lack of confidence" in her head (he probably think i am better than him, he is scare, he is beta he is not meant to reproduce, he does not have abundance)you need to approach IMMEDIATELY and engage the group, but i favor approaching accidentally not planned, you just happened to be there and dancing with her and her friends, sometimes you approach the wrong way and the girl is girl coding the other girl for rescue(that could be as well)... Also when girls are in what i call the group castle and they are into themselves, sometimes i wait for a distraction of one or most of the members to jump in....
Just playing devil's advocate but wouldn't wait for the "right moment" or "For the distraction" not be considered a problem as well? Wouldn't she get similiar ideas that "Oh he's to scared to approach me before." etc, etc?


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