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Your last post reminds me of this:

worst-rejections-ever-vp226630.html?hig ... ean#226630

In ^this little scenario, I let my emotions get the better of me. I actually wanted to "prove" to some strangers that I had some life that was grander than theirs. Silly . . . but after being 'rejected', I just got into the whole immature act. (Hey, we're all men after all)

Your goal is to slam 30 chicks before you marry. You have A LOT of time to accomplish this. You absolutely do not need to close 10 numbers in a night to do this. All you need is ONE SOLID contact on one night . . . you already had this with that Hungarian confused girl and you already had this with this recent Frenchie.

If you think of all of this only from your prospective, you will of course be somewhat disappointed. But if you can somehow see these situations from the prospective of the girls that you've already interacted with, I think you will see that you've already broken some hearts.

The only problem is that this whole pick up thing has been too easy for you. Slow it down and have fun with it.


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Your last post reminds me of this:

worst-rejections-ever-vp226630.html?hig ... ean#226630

In ^this little scenario, I let my emotions get the better of me. I actually wanted to "prove" to some strangers that I had some life that was grander than theirs. Silly . . . but after being 'rejected', I just got into the whole immature act. (Hey, we're all men after all)

Your goal is to slam 30 chicks before you marry. You have A LOT of time to accomplish this. You absolutely do not need to close 10 numbers in a night to do this. All you need is ONE SOLID contact on one night . . . you already had this with that Hungarian confused girl and you already had this with this recent Frenchie.

If you think of all of this only from your prospective, you will of course be somewhat disappointed. But if you can somehow see these situations from the prospective of the girls that you've already interacted with, I think you will see that you've already broken some hearts.

The only problem is that this whole pick up thing has been too easy for you. Slow it down and have fun with it.
Haha! Hilarious! I like the link. Sometimes I know the moviation of getting more number closes is out of pure greed. Subconuiously I want more HBs, which drives me to take as many girls' numbers as I can. I SHOULD STOP DOING IT. I totally go along with your idea -- ONE SOLID CONTACT rather than meaningless couples of number closes.

The misakes I made in Alien the Frechie's incident are similar to those of Romain girl's incident. The way I tried to loss them are not appropiate which made them thought I was a wanker or something. A short update of the Romanian girl case -- I bumped into that Romanian girl last wednesday in the same event that I met her two wednesdays ago. She was with a guy. Nevertheless, it didn't put me off to be friendly with her. I went up to her to say hi very politely. The moment I saw her and her guy. I knew she was totally over me because I could see she had already had her eye on the guy who came with. Nevermind, at least I learnt a lesson.

Thanks for your compliments. I don't get too complacent with the luck I had with Frenchie whom I have had a F-close with recently. I still have a long way to go by the way. Last night I revised the stuff you have tuaght me. Some of exercsies you suggested me to do and I haven't done them properly yet. I should carry them out bit by bit for the next two weeks.


p.s. I found this previous-vt79450.html?postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

which you posted in VV Cephei 's FR the other day. I got a couple of ideas out of the thread. Good stuff again.


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Time: 20th Feburary 2012 8:00p.m. -11:00 p.m.
21st Feburary 2012 8:00p.m. -11:00 p.m.

Venue: Somewhere in Central London
Results: 3 number closes and 5 rejections

20th Feburary 2012
the Germans

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Same as before

In the Mission
Striaght after I tried to loss the frenchie (see my previous post), I started to flirth with two germans. They were tourists and they came here for a visit. I used the excuse of showing them around at night in London for getting their contacts. It worked. We all exchanged our contacts in very early stage of the conversation. Not much kino I could do to them, apart from constantly high five with them when I cracked some sleazy jokes. They laughed a lot on my jokes. Unfortunately, when the conversation went well for a couple of minutes, my target, the better looking one in the group, told me she had a boyfriend and pointed at a guy next to her with a bloody finger. I said ok and then ignored the whole thing. I got put off by this. I couldn't come up anything to talk straight after she said she had a bloody bf. After she said she had a bf and a couple of minutes later, I managed to finish the conversation with them in a very bad way. It was not a great finish.


Mistakes 1
When I left them, I said I was going to the loo but promised I would come back. However, instead of going back to them, I moved to talk a group of random people.

Learning Outcomes
Mistakes 1- This was not cool because they devalued me and saw me as a twat or a sly git. Next time when I finish talking to a set, I should be polite and honest to them if I don't want to talk to them anymore.

The results
Although on that night my target suggested me to give her a buzz about seeing an exhibition next week before I left her in the pub, after I texted her last thursday, I still haven't got any reply yet.

I may give her another go. I think the chance I would get her is very low because she has a bf. How could she have the guts to come out to see me right under her bf's nose? Too risky for her.

21st Feburary 2012
Easy the Catalan

In the Mission
She was in the bar with her spanish freind. I went into them and greeted them properly very a friendly smile. I didn't even use any lines. I just said hi and introduced myself. It worked and then I had a chat with them. In the meatime, I threw into all my tricks to my target - Easy the Catalan. It worked. I got Easy's number for meeting up in Day 2.

Btw, this is not a successful case. I will continue it tomorrow, I gotta work my research now.


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awesome job so far! good luck with everything, will keep reading

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awesome job so far! good luck with everything, will keep reading
Thanks! likewise.


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21st Feburary 2012
Easy the Catalan

In the Mission
She was in the bar with her spanish freind. I went into them and greeted them properly very a friendly smile. I didn't even use any lines. I just said hi and introduced myself. It worked and then I had a chat with them. In the meatime, I threw into all my tricks to my target - Easy the Catalan. It worked. I got Easy's number for meeting up in Day 2.

Btw, this is not a successful case. I will continue it tomorrow, I gotta work my research now.
Sorry guys, I got it wrong again. I got Easy's txt this morning about going to an exhibition together next week. I haven't replied her yet because I am still planning where I should go. I think it's still a good sign


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Time: 26th Feb, 2012
Venue: North West London
Results: I nearly got into a fight and had nothing in the end.

Writing this piece of the field reports, I have nothing to be proud of. I do this because I want to make it an example of telling myself not to be stupid again to get into any row with guys over a girl. It is not worth for doing it.

I felt a bit mortified what I did last night. I was being totally an AFC and a jerk who was desperate for sex and so aggressive enough to scare the girl off. From now and on, I should enjoy my game rather than made it as a mission. This just stresses me out and makes me miserably at all the time.

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Shock and Awe method and Stelar method
Stelar method is the one which has been posted on Lay Report.

In the Mission[\b]
I was not in a very good mood when I went out last night. I went to the club at 1 in the morning. Before I went in, I bumped into the girls I met a couple weeks ago. I didn’t get any luck with them on the night we met. One of the girls, Audrey, who was my target last night and also the other night and her friend said hi to me. However, I was so odd and blunt (my default mode) and replied back by saying, “ I remember you “, my finger pointing at her, “you are the one didn’t want to talk to me the other night.” It was odd. No laughing in both sides and a weird vibe came in. Great job Ronny! I ruined it again. I wasn’t thinking quick enough to recover it. This is possibly because I was in a bloody bad mood. After that incident, more bad luck coming.

A random girl
Tried Stelar method, no luck.

Audrey the german
I could tell she was tipsy when she was in the dance floor with her friend. When she walked passed me, I was said
" We are both adults. To be honest with you, I find you very sexy and I want to fuck you tonight." she smiled to me, put her arm around my shoulders and didn't say a word. I looked her back with my plain face. The staring contest lasted for 5 seconds. However, I forgot to say the next line -- I will not apologize for being a man, I will give you five minutes to recover. Instead of saying this, I kissed her neck. She pulled out and her friend took her out of me. K.O. I was done miserably. For the whole night, her friend was being an annal to me and tried to block me off from her. I think my odd behaviour outside the club was the cause of the revenge of her friend to me.

Then afterwards, she was still around my proximity. A german 7HB danced quite close to me. She talked me by asking if I was on my own and possibly asked for my company. I couldn’t focus on her and my eye was still on Audrey. The conversation between german 7HB and me was not very flowing because I was way distracted by Audrey. After a few minutes, I couldn’t help but went back to talk to Audrey. I was out of my mind. I had never been that desperate before. I think she was sort of the type of the girls who I had been dreaming for. I went back to her. Things got worse. A guy came up to me with a big rage telling me to fuck off because she was his bf. Of course not, he was lying. I knew he was one of the guys trying on her in the club. I didn’t back off and I confronted him that he was lying. It was the worst situation I have ever had in my life. As long as one of us had thrown a punch at another, there would have been a massive fight on that night. Luckily, my bouncer friend came and I told I got threatened by that wanker. Things changed slightly after the bouncers came in to sort out. This whole mess just made me look more bad in front of Audrey. I didn’t really wake up from my mistakes at the time but I knew I fucked up. Although I went back to talk to that german 7HB again, it was too late for me because no girl likes being treated second best. Audrey didn’t leave and she was still behind my back dancing even though the row between me and that wanker. She was very close but sometimes nearly rubbed my back. However, I was upset and angry and I didn’t want to talk to her. When I left the club, I saw she pulled that wanker. I felt sad and left miserably.



Mistakes 1
Not in the mood to go out.

Mistakes 2
Too unfriendly to people.

Mistakes 3
Too desperate to get a girl

Mistakes 4
Too silly and slow to let go



Learning Outcomes
Mistake 1 – I should sort my inner game out. It is something about me not the game. I am always in a bad mood. I think it is related to my job and research situation.

Mistake 2 – things would have changes if I had been a little bit friendly to Audrey’s crew before I went in the club. Unfortunately I didn’t……


Mistake 4 – Sometimes I should learn how to let go.


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Time: 27th Feb, 2012 - 12th March, 2012
Venue: Everywhere in London
Results: A number close with a 7 greek girl and A kiss close with a 7.5 german HB

I don't have anything keep you guys update for last three weeks because I was flat out busy with my job hunting, interviews and research. I did not go out a lot like used to be. I think I will be less busy this week and will be out again for sarging. :lol:

These days I know what is working on me. I am getting to playing the game properly but as I said before I need to fine tune my game. First, keeping myself in a good mood is key to every sucess. When I look back the babes I had luck with, I was in a good mood when I approached them. Next, sometimes, I am acting like a flippant rather than a man when I try to impress a girl. I don't know how to elobrate my point by giving you some examples. I guess something dealing with my desperation of impressing girls and somehow I make things worse by acting too childish to crack some silly jokes. In this stage of my game, I still don't think I am very good at a situation where the music is too loud. To be clear, I am not good at the club game. What I am "ok" at is the place where the music is not loud or full of sitting areas. Finally, I want to have an ONS at the same night I met a girl; however, I find it hard to do it.

7.5 german HB
The technique is the same before but what happened this time is I can not get a F-close with her. I think something I did on Day 2 which I pissed her off without my notice. Although I had a kiss-close with her on that night, I couldn't get a F-close afterwards. I was not desperate but I think it had to be my negative attitude or silly comments on things so that she decided not to see me again.


7.5 catalan HB
I think I mentioned about her in my previous posts. I was about to see her tonight but still have not recieved her reply yet. She may get cold feet with the whole meet-up. Damn!

7 greek girl
I had a number-close with a greek girl last Saturday night in a pub. I took her number off after I bulit a rapport with her. Txted her yesterday and got a reply. After the reply, I suggested to meet up for going to see an exhibition. I am still waiting for her reply. Finger crossing on this.


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Sorry guys, I got it wrong again. I got Easy's txt this morning about going to an exhibition together next week. I haven't replied her yet because I am still planning where I should go. I think it's still a good sign
Get in the habit of keeping up with the tennis match. Just volley the ball back to her side of the net, you don't need the right answer every time. Just text back, "Cool." - yeah, just one word. . . doesn't mean anything. It doesn't mean you're going or not . . . it just shows that you're alive and you think it's , "cool". "Sounds interesting." "Hmm. . .that's a thought." "I'm lost in deep thought" . . .The female species seem to enjoy these silly nonsensical, functionless phrases but they don't like it when you do not pay any attention to them at all. . .


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By the way, that whole, "I want to fuck you" thing . . . it's a what you do when you want to F and you want to F now. You just keep hitting up one girl after the other until one girl is into it. - This doesn't really suit you for your typical night out. Perhaps if you visit another city and you have one hour to go out. But even then, there are better ways to do this. . .


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Sorry guys, I got it wrong again. I got Easy's txt this morning about going to an exhibition together next week. I haven't replied her yet because I am still planning where I should go. I think it's still a good sign
Get in the habit of keeping up with the tennis match. Just volley the ball back to her side of the net, you don't need the right answer every time. Just text back, "Cool." - yeah, just one word. . . doesn't mean anything. It doesn't mean you're going or not . . . it just shows that you're alive and you think it's , "cool". "Sounds interesting." "Hmm. . .that's a thought." "I'm lost in deep thought" . . .The female species seem to enjoy these silly nonsensical, functionless phrases but they don't like it when you do not pay any attention to them at all. . .
Sorry for my late reply kassabi. Just flat out busy these days. Thanks for giving me this trick. I always wait a long time before I reply a girl. I gotta to change it then. Btw, I have a question for you but I will post it in another thread. Hope you can me some insight.


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By the way, that whole, "I want to fuck you" thing . . . it's a what you do when you want to F and you want to F now. You just keep hitting up one girl after the other until one girl is into it. - This doesn't really suit you for your typical night out. Perhaps if you visit another city and you have one hour to go out. But even then, there are better ways to do this. . .

Got you mate, thanks.


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Time: 14th Feb, 2012
Venue: a club in Central London
Results: Two number closes and one rejection


My technique is same before

7.5 brunette Spanish HB
I went up to her with a big smile and saying hi. Afterwards, I threw in all my tricks which also included kino. Got her number before I left her. I knew I bulit a proper rapport because when I said bye to her, she held my hand longer than usual. I knew she was a bit hitting on me.

A little follow-up of 7.5 brunette Spanish HB
Went to see an exhibition and a coffee with her last sat and had a good time with her. I made her laugh a lot for the whole day. Although I did not pull her that day, we almost held hands together and a lot of kino. After last sat, we went for a drink on monday night. As usual, I used my sex talk tricks to make her talk about sex. She fell for all my tricks. I escalated kino from the beginning to the end. She surrendered. We snogged for the whole night til the club closed.

Now, the only mission I have to complete is the F-close. Wish me luck guys


8 Blond Spanish HB
No Luck. After I opened the set and made her laugh a couple of times. She told me she was leaving in two weeks. She said if she had stayed a bit longer in London, she would have hung out with me. I knew it was a no go for me. I ejected with a nice smile and a goodbye.

7.5 Italian HB
I met her the same night after I met brunette Spanish HB. I didn't do well when I tried to game her. I worried that brunette spanish would see me gaming her because when I talked to that italian, she was not far from us. In the conversation one of her male friends tried to interrupt me. I didn't give a shit and I completely ignored him and focused on talking to her. It worked and he backed off. However, it did not mean I got lucky with her. Although I did get that italian's number in the end. She didn't reply any of my messages after the night I met her.


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I have a question about txting a girl.

I met a blonde Spanish HB last Wednesday. I think I got a good rapport before I got her number. After that night, I send her two different messages in two different days. In the messages I didn't show my interntions of meeting up again but just checked up on her. Nothing really major. Unfortunately, I didn't get her reply for the whole week. I almost gave up on her because of this. Today I got her txt. She apologised for her late reply. She explained why she was late because her phone credit went out for last week. In the message she also suggested to meet up tomorrow evening in the place where I met her last week. However I can't do it because I know another spanish burnette girl who I had a kiss-close with is going there. I don't want that burnette girl found out becuase I am sort of going out with her now, plus I haven't got a F-close with her yet.

I believed all that blonde HB said it was genuine because it is not easy to get a job or make money in London since the financial crisis. I replied back and showed my forgiveness to her. In the meantime, I refused to meet her by making some excuses and suggested to visit a museum together instead. Before I finished my txt message, I also asked her facebook name and suggested to talk there because it was free. She did reply back and told me her facebook name only, but didn't tell me if she wanted to meet up this sunday.

A little analysis in her txt messages, She didn't put any smileys in all her messages. She kept short and clear in her messages. I am not so sure it is a good sign. The main catch is she didn't replied me back if she wanted to come to see me in the museum this sunday. I hope there is no lost in translation. I was clear what I wanted. I wish I could speak a bit spanish. Damn!

I don't want to sound desperate right now. What I should do in the next step?



I want to give her a last try to suggest if she wanted to meet up


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Not a good sign. I sent her another txt this late evening about going to a chocolate festival this weekend. She replied back by saying she was too skint to go anywhere theses day. I joked back by saying loaning her some chocolate and returned me back once she had a job. In the message I also asked her about the process of her job hunting. After that message, I got no reply................................

I blew it. Damn!


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