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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 11:33 pm 
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Introduction

This journal is an oath. I am now committed to documenting myself in field and opening myself up to criticism (and hopefully encouragement) with the aim to improve my game. I will improve my game.

I recently put myself under the microscope. I have never really had cause to think that I wasn't implementing the PUA material I have learnt previously to efficiently pick up. This was until I looked back at my closes over the last year and realised something.

In my eyes I have never really gamed a girl - I've been cheating myself.

The girls I have got with or slept with have all been either friends, friends of friends or acquaintances. The only exceptions to this have been on the dance floor - Little to no verbal contact.

Hypotheses
- I work well when I already have rapport.
- Im good at "long game" i.e I can't close quickly/can't close.
- I have killer dance moves/I manage to fluke it on the dance floor.
- Either I can't open - Or I don't.

Aims
Go out and game at least twice a week, and take ever other oppurtunity to game whether it be day, night, dusk or dawn. Lock up your daughters.

Journal the hell out of my experiences.

Take onboard any advice given by everyone else.


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Night 1 (20/1/12)

Wing: Eli
Opened: 10-15
Closed (Nature): 0
Rating: 2/10


Hit the club with my partner in crime Eli (same standard, excellent at getting both of us into state). Decided I would get myself going with a leaf out of Adam Lyon's book - Open 5 girls with a compliment and eject before receiving a reaction. I got to 3 then chickened out.

Idiot.

Wasted a whole bunch of opportunities before finding my testicles and reopening. Went to the bar and tapped a girl on the shoulder. Asked "Get me a glass of water with lots of ice and a slice of lemon."
I was already prepared for her to say no so I could tease her about it and continue the routine.

She said yes.

She said it in an almost motherly way, like I was in dire need of sobering up. I tried to recover myself but it was far to late. I ejected with a forced smile and tried to regain my composure. Kept repeating "Nothing matters" over and over in my head which seemed to help. Still felt like a little bitch though.

Made some progress in another set. Eli swooped in and allowed me to isolate.
Finally I was going somewhere.
I then spotted a problem. One of her friends was making a beeline for her. I tried to engage the stinger missile before she even got to us but she was ruthlessly efficient at extracting my target. Feck.

Opened a two set with "Theres 10 riding on me picking you girls up, act like its working" (pulled this one out of nowhere, thats probably why it didn't work). They responded positively at first, then told me there were lesbians. I threw out a "prove it". They looked a bit awkward and then the set got blown apart by a commotion around where we were standing. I didn't feel invested in the interaction so I ejected.

Hit a mixed set and got confronted by a guy from set wearing a neckerchief. Saw this as an AMOG attempt and judging by his strange attire I guessed he was a pua. Called him out on it. He looked pretty shifty and said something like "Oh have you read the game? Its pretty stupid isn't it."

Tool.

Decided I would try and bounce of him so I got his name. It was something ridiculous like Sohandro so I ejected and reopened the girl side of the set with "So how do you know Sohandro?". Worked positively but I was wingless and Sohandro and his no doubt equally ridiculously named friends smelt a rat. I made an effort to isolate my target but got taken down. Turns out the set all live together. Glad to see a fellow "PUA" was making an effort to leave his comfort zone.

Flew into a two set with an opener I can't remember (must have been shit). Again I got a "We're lesbians" - Perhaps I got the wrong night. I threw out a my instinctive "Prove it". They did. I took it as about the only positive thing to come out of the night so far but I knew I didn't have anything to keep that reaction going. Or I ran like a pussy, I can't quite decide.

It was drawing near the end of the night and I was losing hope so I head to the bar to get a glass of water.

How ironic.

Very few people at the bar so I take out my phone and pretend, with a big smile on my face, that I'm texting someone of great interest. Pussy move. But low and behold I get opened. The girl looks familiar. Turns out she's a great friend of a girl I had been sleeping with for the first semester (Now ended - She was indecisive and I didn't demand enough respect). Thought I would plough on regardless. Was going swimmingly - she stayed in set when all of her friends came over and tried to get her to the dance floor. Took that as a strong IOI

Then I screwed it up. A general theme for the night.

I tried to neg her which was bloody odd because I don't usually exercise that style of game. She took it the wrong way and left. I went home with Eli feeling like a bit of a failure.

Lessons learnt:
Rapport is very important.
I am not very good at opening/ I need to open more
I may have a first impression issue. I usually dress in a black and perhaps I give off the "hungry shark/sleezy" look - hence the constant shit tests/external interupts (any thoughts on this?).


Next time I will:
Open more sets.
Escalate more quickly.
Not be easily discouraged.

I would love any advice and criticism on anything I have written - Material, How I should have acted, what was good/bad etc.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 1:06 am 
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My advice is learn an opener and a routine, then just practice the fuck out of them. Open every set for a whole night with the same opener, it needs to roll off the Tongue instinctively.
Then after a little fluff talk roll into your routine. AFC ask what a girl does for a living then nod until the conversation dies. Pua's attract, seduce and entertain groups of people, isolate targets and close.
I'll give you a more detailed analysis when I get a chance.

Good luck though comrade.


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You dont have any AA, which by itself is a great step. Just study a little more, figure out what you are confortable with and then practice.

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Night 2 (23/1/12)

Wing: Drunk Eli
Opened: 4
Closed (Nature): 1 (K - HB8.5)
Rating: 4/10


Went for a night out with a whole bunch of friends so the incentive for me to game was severely reduced. To a certain extent I was annoyed but I know deep down I was using it as an excuse to stay in my comfort zone. Basically I didn't open enough. Not even close to what I should have. Damn

I headed in alone ahead of my friends in good state and was opened instantly by three girls. Unfortunately this was because one of them recognised me from my course but that didn't alter the social proof it gave me.
Tam, Diane and Harriet (10 points if you follow my choice of code names) were HB7.5, HB8.5, HB8 respectively with Tam being the one who recognised me. I was getting good vibes off Diane so I made a mental note to try and do something about it at some point.

Not being too pleased to settle I sewed some seeds and jumped straight over to the mixed set that I came out with. Definite wimp move there but after a while I plucked up some courage and decided to open a few sets.

At this point a very drunk Eli arrived and helped me do the Drug Dealer opener to a two set. Unfortunately the girl I was talking to was either too drunk or very stupid because she was responsive but struggling to make basic conversation. I ejected with a sigh and moved on.

Saw a girl sitting with two guys who were deep in conversation. Gave her the "what are they talking about?" look and she rolled her eyes. Opened her and her friend and was making progress until I found out she was in a 2 year relationship with one of the guys. Eject.

Felt my state crashing so I failed myself and joined my friends again. Got proximity from Diane so I pulled her round and brought her close. K closed. Was fun for a while but as soon as she started playing hard to get I left her to it. I will see her another time and my new years resolution was to avoid games.

The night mellowed out with me dancing with friends and not really pushing myself. From an enjoyment point of view the night was a definite success but from a game perspective I felt like a bit of a failure.

Lessons learnt:
Friends are great for social proof and state but hamper the number of sets you open.
Drinking less is better.
Don't focus your night on one target.

Next time I will:
Practice 3 different openers several times until they become second nature (Voltaire101)
OPEN MORE SETS


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Goals for the future

Go on a night out and sarge entirely alone.
Sort out my numerous insecurities.
Relax and give less of a fuck about outcomes and what people think of me.
Increase the number of people I know.

Further improve my wardrobe.
Keep on top of my work.
Keep up my gym routine.

The first four are definitely issues I will need help sorting. Any advice would be invaluable.


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Night 3 (26/1/12)

Wings: Millie, Eli, Jay
Opened: 5
Closed (Nature): 1 (K-HB8.5)
Rating: 4/10


Hit a small club with a group of friends. This group included Jay, a natural who I recently crossed paths with, and Millie, a female friend of mine who before this point hadn't shown her pivot potential.

I open a girl who's on her own with "Have you done something bad?, you look like the naughty one who's been told to stand in the corner". She's very unresponsive and despite pushing forward I don't really get anywhere.

I catch the eye of a solid HB8.5 and remember having opened her previously - months beforehand. I generally have a solid memory of previous interactions and remembered where she said she was from. I banked on her not remembering the conversation herself (it wasn't of a high standard) and opened with "I couldn't help noticing your accent, are you from X?". She obviously loved it and we had a good interaction afterwards and exchanged names (Greta) but I lacked mid game and escalation and so eventually ejected.

I see Jay in a two set and can see he needs help isolating. The friend is literally holding onto Jay's target so I run up and hug her and move her while saying something like "Whats your favourite colour?". She starts whining about being pulled away from her friend but eventually starts chatting to me. She's an HB7 and not really my type so I just made enough conversation for Jay to close.

Bring her over to my friends so I don't have to talk to her anymore. She starts heavily hitting on my friend who has a girlfriend. He gives me the "help me" signal so I lift and extract her a second time. She gets the idea and leaves.

See Jay in another two set so I move in, he introduces me to one of the girls and I isolate. It was at this point I realised the latest hole in my game. My mid game is terrible. The conversation was perfectly pleasant but was going absolutely no where, it turned dry and generic like I was making small talk in a lift. I eventually couldn't take how boring the conversation was getting so I abandon ship.

As I leave the set I get opened by Greta again and I quickly isolate. The conversation was no way near sexually charged enough but we seemed to have a lot of common ground including living close to each other and having a few mutual friends.

At this point Millie comes over and tells me that everyone is leaving. She then sees the girl Im talking to and so begins the greatest wingwomanery I have ever seen. Ill break it down in steps:

- She introduces herself and within 10 seconds has deduced that she lives close by.

- Invites her to share a cab home with us. Greta accepts.

- Backs Greta up when the bouncer won't give her her bag back because of a fault in the computer system. (Greta comes back with us bagless)

- When we arrive back Greta announces that she's going back to her house, Millie invites her back to ours for drinks. Greta accepts.

- Millie takes her straight to my room. (I catch eyes with Jay as Im entering my room. He's humping air and winking at me.)

- Millie sits with us telling Greta DHV stories about me (At this point Im literally in awe of her brilliance.)

- She then gets a call, proclaims "Christ I better answer this" and leaves the room. (I later find out it was Jay who called her, for that specific reason.)

So there I was. Alone in a room with an HB8.5 having done almost no work myself. We talk for around 20 minutes but again the conversation wasn't going where it should have been, although we were really hitting off. She then starts making motions to leave.

At this point I found my balls, walked over to her and K closed her. This went on for a bit and was going well so I made subtle motions towards the bed.

I was then hit by LMR in the form "I better go home, I have work tomorrow"

Ive never really had to deal with LMR and all I remembered you could do to counteract it was a freeze out. But due to the fact she was previously leaving anyway the freeze out didn't serve its purpose and she left. We had a nice moment at the door but I still felt like a bit of a failure.

I don't think the chapters closed on this one though.

Lessons learnt: Millie is a world class pivot.
I need to work on mid game and escalation.

Next time I will:
OPEN MORE SETS.
Stack routines.


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I need to work on mid game and escalation.
My mid game is escalation lol. Your conversational skills doesn't matter that much if you are escalating properly. Of course they help, but are not what gets the deal done.

Have you ever looked into stealth attraction?
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Lessons learnt: Millie is a world class pivot.
Having a wingwomen is one of the best things. The give you lots of social proof and pre-selection rings any bells?? :D Personally i have never had the luck of finding myself a good wingwomen so you should consider yourself very lucky.


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Dark Times

Night 4 (27/1/12)

Wings: -
Opened: 0
Closed (Nature): 0
Rating: 0/10

Had a chest inflammation so should have stayed at home. Spoke to Jay for a short while about game but then just really wanted to head home.

Bad idea to go out.

Night 5 (30/1/12)

Wings:
Opened: 5
Closed (Nature): 0
Rating: 1/10


New club, good mood - this was going to be good.

Same old me. Didn't bite the bullet and approach any 90% of sets I should have. Any interaction that was going well was cock blocked by ex-first semester girl (ESG).
She eventually went home but by then I had lost all momentum. I reopened ex-semesters friend from Night 1 and chatted for a while but nothing came of it.

I need to sort this out.

Night 6 (2/2/12)

Wings:
Opened: 3
Closed (Nature): 0
Rating: 1/10


Was having issues with ESG generally messing up my night. I struggled to build up any momentum. Another fail.

Night 7 (6/2/12)

Wings: Eli
Opened: 5
Closed (Nature): 0
Rating: 2/10


Ran a solid two set at a pre club party. Target dropped in that she had a boyfriend- I attempted the straw man technique and built him up to some incomprehensible height so that she would undercut him.

She agreed with everything I said. Large backfire.

I then ended up talking to her lovely-but-not-my-type friend. Worked on my mid game a bit but lost interest, made my excuses, and left for the club.

Queue jumped with Eli and hit it in good state. Saw loads of people I knew and went a bit crazy dancing and having fun. Caught the eye of Greta from Night 3. She was surrounded by a large group of friends and getting a lot of male attention so I opened her friend. Set was solid and I recon I could have closed but she wasn't what I usually go for and I didn't want to blow it with Greta.

Was moving in to chat to Greta when I was opened by a girl on my course who is sleeping with a friend of mine. We chat for almost half an hour which was nice but I could see Greta being moved in on and me giving off the "I get all the girls" vibe (far from the truth).

Rest of the night is a bit of a blow out, open another set or too but nothing really happens.


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I almost didn't document the last four nights.

But then what would be the point?

If I never reveal my failures I will never get the advice I need to get better.


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Night 8 (10/2/12)

Wing: Jay
Opened: 10
Closed (Nature): 1 (K+N - HB7.5)
Rating: 5/10


Decided to go out with Jay and two other naturals (Bird and Ink). Was interesting seeing that they had similar fear to approach and realising that although they are good, being a natural doesn't mean you don't have pick up issues.

Psyched up for the night by reading 60 Years of Challenge's eBooks - Women Ignition and Fearless Relentless Escalation. Props to this guy, these books are probably the best I have ever read, I seriously recommend them.

Our entrance to the club was solid. We skipped the gigantic queue with special tickets and inside we were handed a bottle of champagne with 4 glasses. Chilled up against the bar just chatting (made sure to not scan - I didn't want to game just yet and if I saw anything approachable and then didn't approach, no matter what the justification, it would ruin my momentum.)

Got approached my two girls basically trying to find out why we were a big deal. Bird asked them to take a picture with us which triggered a lot of chat. One of the girls who was clearly Birds target was probably an HB8 and her friend an HB6. The HB6 was all over me without me running any game and was clearly DTF but I wasn't interested so I just shrugged her off.

Went dancing and the night lost momentum. I was opening more than usual but still not as much as I could. Not many sets were of interest and I didn't feel like I was getting anywhere. Decided to push myself and keep going.

Saw HB7.5 getting grinded my some guy and looking uncomfortable. Caught her eye, smiled and rolled my eyes. She laughed and slowly peeled off. Walked straight up to her, stuck out my hand. She took it, pulled her in close and introduced myself. Did a funny routine involving a story about where I am from while heavily escalating. Escalation turned mutual and so at a break in conversation I whispered "You are fucking hot" in her ear. She blushed and I K closed. Her friend came over so I started chatting to her to avoid a potential cock-block. The friend was really nice so everything was fine. Saw HB7.5 start to wilt and take out her phone so I took it off her, gave her mine and just started putting my number in. She reciprocated. Stayed in set for a while longer then left to find my friends. Texted her then and there to decrease the chance of the number being useless the next day. Had a nice little T conversation while I was heading home.

Went to bed relatively happy, mainly because my previously pick-ups have never been as smooth.

Reread 60YOC today and had an epiphany. Why did I leave the set? It was the end of the night and I did not push it until I hit a no.

Oh well, at least its conscious incompetence!


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Night 9 (16/2/12)

Wing: Eli
Opened: 10
Closed (Nature): 0
Rating: 5/10

Was apprehensive about the night. Wasn't really up for it at all and only went because I was obligated to because of a "team building" exercise organised by the college.

I knew ESG was going to be there and may get up in my grill so I wasn't confident of improving at all.

Then I did something that amazed me. I worked myself into a great state. This is obviously nothing revolutionary but for me it was the first time Ive turned myself round in such a drastic way.

Had a great pre party in someones room. There was a guy there whose presence usually gets to me (mainly because he was ESGs guy after me.) She and him were vibing and chatting in front of me and this would usually phase me. Instead I just lent back, smiled and let it flow over me. It was exhilarating.

Hit the club and almost instantly got in a good set at the bar even though the girl was low HB7. I stacked to whats becoming my only strong routine and Im pretty sure the set was in the bag. It felt great turning a good set down because I wasn't interested. It put me in control.

Got heavily hit on by lovely-but-not-my-type girl from Night 7 and got out of that one quickly.

Tried the drink race game "You be served? Ok ill race you - Lets see who gets the drink first" on a girl. Got blown out when she moved down the bar. Didn't even dent my mood.

Went dancing and decided to probe out my had to see what would happen. Ended up holding hands with a HB7 going on HB6. Shock that off although I recon I probably could have been less picky with that one.

Got hit on by another girl from a previous night who I wasn't interested in. They must be sense my state! Shook her off.

Started working this HB7. Set went well and I escalated well. Had it in the bag and again I ended interaction for lack of interest.

By now I felt very validated so I opened a slightly harder set. It was going well, if not a bit rocky. She was at a yellow night so I decided to try some new things. Most of them didn't work but it was a useful encounter. Opened her friend later with better luck then got cut off by ESG. Not bothered.

Saw ESG crying at one point in the night. Couldn't work out what it was about. Then I stopped caring.

Danced with friends until a very attractive and forward blonde ended up dancing with me. I knew I needed to act fast and escalate but I wasn't sharp enough. Completely dried up on things to say or do. Need to work on that.

Summary:

Even though I didn't close, I had what felt like the biggest step in my game tonight. I turned down 5 girls that i could have closed and not because I was scared to close but because they genuinely didn't fit my spec. I really sorted out good body language and energy levels. I also really enjoyed the mentality I had - Its all practice.

I also now understand how patterns emerge when you get good at a routine as well.

I just need more routines now.

NB. If anyone is following my progress please let me know. It would give me a great boost to know that I can't flake out of this without letting some people down.


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I'm very new to this mate, but I will say, I won't back out if you don't.

I skim read your posts because I'm off to work but I'll be keeping track. I can tell just by the progress you've made so far that you're not going round in circles and have the state of mind for improving yourself. Keep at it.


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Night 10 (21/2/12)

Wing:
Opened: 3
Closed (Nature): 1 (K+N - HB6.5)
Rating: 3/10


Started off the night at a girls birthday party. I was the only one there who didn't really know anyone. Struggled to make much of an impact but had fun all the same.

Headed with some friends to a bar/club that I have been to far too many times. Tried to break in the back and ended up in the clubs boiler room and maintenance . Found a jacket in a store room which I then proceeded to wear for the rest of the night - definite win there.

Finally got into the club and started off badly - went for my first approach and literally bumped into ESG, which threw me - and as a result I ended up with terrible momentum. This is currently the worst part of my game, getting those first few approaches out of the way.

Got opened by a girl on my course, was going fairly well with me managing to fight off a few externals but eventually lost the set. My escalation was good but I failed to hit the hook point.

Bumbled around chatting to friends and not doing anything productive. Enter a set which contained a fiery blonde who turned out to have a boyfriend.

At this point I was gaining some heavily negative momentum and it wasn't looking good. To make matters worse I bumped into ESG again. She blanked me so I forced an interaction - very lukewarm. Decided to chat and win over one of the guys in the group she was in. Was working well but apparently this wasn't allowed so she tried to cut me out, as per usual.

I just started to walk backwards and immediately opened an HB6.5. Almost no legwork was required and with a combination of good escalation, beer googles and her being Mexican (on my conquest list) I ended up K + N closing. Was invited back to hers but I turned it down, I usually stick off >HB7 (unless of course Im looking for a girlfriend).

Got bored and left the club, met up with Eli and walked home.

Summary:

Need to find a way of building positive momentum. Next time Im going to do the give-5-random-girls-a-compliment deal and see where that puts me.

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Just a thought here: why dont you learn and memorize some canned material? I am NOT a big fan of it, i think that being natural is best but in some cases some praticed and comproved stuff can be a lot of help.

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