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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 12:00 pm 
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Okay, so today I was with this group of girls, chatting about random stuff, and I randomly put in *you should bring your bf's along* as you do for a standard screen, and this mutual friend comes along and says "that's so typical to see whether or not a girl has a bf or not". Immediately one of the girls agree. I did what I knew was the wrong thing and tried to defend myself.

Luckily for me he had no game and couldn't hold attention very well.

Later on in the evening, I was at a girl's house, and just relaxing, when he shows up again. Same routine, try to game the girl, increase buying temperature via kino escalation etc. and he immediately busts out with a "you're creepy". I just did not know how to respond to that at all. Also, later on, he tries to call me up on factual stuff. I shrug it off with a who cares, but I know there must have been better ways to deal with it.

My question is, what is the proper way to deal with these types of amoging?

Also, could anybody point me to a resource of how to deal with this type of amoging?

He is a constant unwanted obstacle, blocking (whether intentionally or not, I don't know or care), and is there any way to permenantly shut him down?

Sorry, this is my first time dealing with this situation. Any advice would be appreciated.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 12:50 pm 
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It's easier than you might think.

The first time he called you out with "That's so typical blah blah blah", you could have just said something like "Yeah, you caught me. Guilty as charged."

When he called you creepy, I would have said "Thanks for contributing to the conversation. Now why don't you go buy me and (woman's name) a drink?"

Don't let these guys shake you up. They're only doing it because they feel threatened and know you have the upperhand anyway - don't give it back to them.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 1:08 pm 
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thanks, but what about when he called me up on factual stuff? the exact details were the origins of the white and black russian, I made up some bullshit like they come from two different places. then he goes all out and looks it up on his phone, finds something different, and is like "you're wrong".

I responded with a "who cares dude, no need to be looking it up in your dictionary like a nerd".

What is the correct way to deal with this situation? ignore and cut him out? or what?

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 1:32 pm 
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"Well, at least I was able to shut you up for 5 golden minutes. Here's a new one for you: (make up some other random thing). Hop to it."


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 9:09 pm 
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brilliant, thanks!

so basically what I want to do is cut him out and not give him a chance to dhv himself or dlv myself?

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You just could said "I'm not into you, sorry" to the guy. 9/10 he will be baffled.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 9:52 pm 
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Never bring up the boyfriend.

And when your hitting on a girl and a guy comes and amog, just completely ignore him. If you see a amog coming in, focus like a laser beam on your girl and get your girl and get her to focus on you. Keep the convo going. It will just destroy him without u doing anything. No flinching allowed her.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 11:13 am 
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oh you misunderstand, often, i tend to playfully tease girls i've just met on boyfriends.

it dhv's showing i've got social awareness, meaning that they cant put a finger on whether I've got a girlfriend or not, and also, if done right (without outside interference) allows me to subtly screen. As upon mentioning it, more often than not the HB's body language and tonality would change, if she has a boyfriend or not.

I brush it over by stacking routines immediately after, proceeded by using some bf destroyer tactics.

But it's okay, you guys have been a lot of help, and I think I get the general mechanics of it now. Just make him qualify to me, then shut him down and blow him out right? =]

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 1:53 pm 
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when ever dealing with assholes, it is best never to go against them directly, unless you know it will absolutely mind fuck them,

the best options almost always seem to be,
ignore and don't care, just like how you basically did,
a simple

ok?
or
cool man

and don't care and carry on like it never happened and he doesn't exist

or option 2,
just agree with him and don't care, make what he says seem stupid

Cockblock:that's so typical to see whether or not a girl has a bf or not
You: that's because im typically trying to figure out if they have boyfriends or not...


Cockblock:You're creepy
You: *continue doing what you are doing to girl* I'm Creeping on you *laugh*

when really stuck in confrontation, two easy things to do on both sides are, call out what he is doing, and agree with what he is saying but make it seem retarded,

so for example if he is calling you out on you did this and this and this and look at this etc. etc.

just say something along the lines of, you should be a detective, you have all the evidence on me, you caught me, then go back to ignoring him and not caring, the more attention he brings to you, and the less you care about him, the better, any publicity is good publicity

the more you ignore him, and the less he bothers you, the less fun he will have in trying to fuck you over and the more he just looks weird, if he is really persistant, just start baiting him into getting mad, then go back to ignoring him and not caring, just don't lose your cool, never get mad or flustered, be emotionally strong


also if you're dealing with cockblocks that have no rapport with the girls that you are talking to, you can get the girl to blow him out for you, by just ignoring him and talking through her
''do you know this guy?'' *weird look*


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 2:56 pm 
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I think the best thing to do is work on your self esteem and presence...

I personally have never had to deal with a amog, the dudes usually come around to try and befriend me. And when I see another dude, I usually befriend them first. If you befriend the dude they won't try any of that cock block shit and if they do, just laugh and shrug it off.

People only keep doing something because they see its getting to you.. Go get some identity before you think about picking up girls. All those witty responses are useless because when being amog'd you won't be in the right space to remember to use a canned line some guy gave you on pick up artist forum anyway.

2nd : Why did you lie about the questions he asked you? Why didnt you just said, " I don't know dude, lets google it"

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